My apartment-mate was just accused of rape and he said there is some microscopic scarring detection test that is almost 100% reliable in determing whether or not sex was consensual. I did a search and could not find anything on this online. Has anybody heard of this?
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Maybe I watch too much Law and Order, but it sounds like something the police might tell someone to get them to confess. Think about it. Does it seem possible that there is a biological way to tell what the real intention was behind the injury that produced a scar?
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No such thing exists. I agree with the theory of the above poster...
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I'm disturbed that you are dwelling on how to keep from being caught after committing such a horrible crime. As medical professionals, we should seek justice. This means holding criminals accountable for the pain and damage they cause in our society and to victims (in this case, survivors).
If your intent in starting this thread was to create controversy and spam, I am saddened. The seriousness of rape, and the immense suffering it brings to women who are attacked, is nothing to joke about.
It is important to me as a man to ensure that the culture which encourages abuse and disrespect of women is ended. As a future physician, I have an interest in fighting violence of all kinds, for the sake of the public's health.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/svfacts.htm
If your intent in starting this thread was to create controversy and spam, I am saddened. The seriousness of rape, and the immense suffering it brings to women who are attacked, is nothing to joke about.
It is important to me as a man to ensure that the culture which encourages abuse and disrespect of women is ended. As a future physician, I have an interest in fighting violence of all kinds, for the sake of the public's health.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/svfacts.htm
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What a load of crap! Where did the original poster say his roommate actually did rape the girl?
In terms of your soap-box rant, what about the hundreds of thousands of men a year who are raped in prison? Why don't you feel some sympathy for them? Why doesn't their personal dignity and humanity get destroyed in the process? Rape is the most overrated crime out there. We're not living in the 19th century, where losing your virginity carried major social stigma and did ruin a person's life. Rape should be viewed as physical assault, like having someone randomly deck you and give you a concussion (which is a substantial crime), not some grand crime against humanity that destroys a victim's soul and existence.
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There was this one episode from Season One of CSI (Which should based everything on fact)....Sara Siddle mentioned there's a clock test to determine if the sexual act is consensual.
Imagine the Vagina as a clock, if the scars are around the lunch hour, it means one thing. If the scars are around the dinner hour, it means the other thing. Basically it has to do with the fact of whether the female struggle/resist during sex.
Hope your apt-mate will not have to go to trial if the whole thing was a misunderstanding.
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Rape has nothing to do with "...losing your virginity carried major social stigma...". It is a disgusting assault. Rape is not like "losing your virginity"; it's being attacked. Having your will stripped from you, your dignity abused, and your body humiliated. It's sickening; a crime. An attack on a person's body and mind. For you to minimize this is disgusting.
I truly hope you never encounter rape in your practice. Women who have been attacked in this disgusting way need understanding and compassion. They do not need your sexism, ignorance, and general stupidity.
Please do not minimize the pain of a survivor. It is very serious.
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http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/svfacts.htm
Again, if you have any reason to be interested in public health, family medicine, or community wellness, you need to know about sexual and family violence. Please have a look at the link above. With our efforts as physicians, we can make a difference. In the world we don't often see, the poor and working class world, women are attacked at a frightening rate. It affects individuals, families, communities, and societies. Do not minimize these people's suffering. We will soon be doctors; they need us.
Again, if you have any reason to be interested in public health, family medicine, or community wellness, you need to know about sexual and family violence. Please have a look at the link above. With our efforts as physicians, we can make a difference. In the world we don't often see, the poor and working class world, women are attacked at a frightening rate. It affects individuals, families, communities, and societies. Do not minimize these people's suffering. We will soon be doctors; they need us.
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You watch way too much TV. This is disgusting. Sex and physical assault/rape are two entirely different things. Your objectification of "the female" is disgusting.
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I understand. It's not your point, but the bigotted sexists who have replied, that has aroused my anger.
Be the best doctor you can. Realize that every patient is a valuable human being, and that women have a unique position in our socio-economy, and you will promote wellness in our society.
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This truly makes me want to vomit. It's disgusting.
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Unfortunatley, there are too many who don't agree. How can someone say that rape is an "overrated crime". This is scary. We need to have some moral and ethical standard as physicians. I understand where you are coming from. To me, it seems very foreign for someone to view rape as a minimal crime. It happens though; it needs to stop. It is encouraging that you also see this as an unthinkable perspective. Together, we can fight this.
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This is complete B.S., and completely unrelated to the matter at hand. Don't use a statistic or number unless you can back it up. Have a look at the CDC site I provided a link to. Fewer than 1 in 20 sexual assaults are perpetrated upon a male. Of these, the majority are children. This is the most disgusting thing I can imagine.
Again, don't throw numbers around that are unsubstantiated and blatantly false.
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I definitely think rape is an incredibly serious crime, and definitely should be considered more severe than physical assault.
That being said, however, I'm confused, supa. When reading through the posts, it seems like you assumed the person trying was referring to was guilty? I didn't pick up on that...I thought he was just asking about some test (which I don't think exists)...
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That being said, however, I'm confused, supa. When reading through the posts, it seems like you assumed the person trying was referring to was guilty? I didn't pick up on that...I thought he was just asking about some test (which I don't think exists)...
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Stop thinking that you're the ONLY person here who knows what a raped person feel and the ONLY person who empathize with them.
You totally miss the whole point of the post. We don't even know if the sexual relation was consensual or not. YOU jumped to the conclusion right away without finding the details. So much about being a good physician.
AND the Clock test I mentioned, I'm stating the rationale behind it: That is, the scars are distributed on different parts of the vagina based on whether the person struggled or not during the sexual act. This information can be useful in proving/disproving a rape.
Now if you think you're better than everyone else just because you probably worked in a rape treatment center before or a domestic violence shelter, WAKE UP.
Oh and btw, you make me sick b/c of your JUDGMENTALITY. Go through some (more) listening/communication skills training before you ever post again.
Stop thinking that you're the ONLY person here who knows what a raped person feel and the ONLY person who empathize with them.
You totally miss the whole point of the post. We don't even know if the sexual relation was consensual or not. YOU jumped to the conclusion right away without finding the details. So much about being a good physician.
AND the Clock test I mentioned, I'm stating the rationale behind it: That is, the scars are distributed on different parts of the vagina based on whether the person struggled or not during the sexual act. This information can be useful in proving/disproving a rape.
Now if you think you're better than everyone else just because you probably worked in a rape treatment center before or a domestic violence shelter, WAKE UP.
Oh and btw, you make me sick b/c of your JUDGMENTALITY. Go through some (more) listening/communication skills training before you ever post again.
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Ironically, I don't even have a TV in my apartment. THe only two shows I watch on DVD are CSI and Alias.
At least CSI is well-researched and based on real techniques used by forensic labs.
And by the way, I did not even remotely hint that rape = merely a form of physical assault. Sorry you're just way too judgmental on this.
Again these show how you quickly jump to conclusion.
