I was on the middle portion of the waitlist and just got an acceptance! I guess they're starting to go down the list.. But will be declining the offer.
Where else you get accepted?I was on the middle portion of the waitlist and just got an acceptance! I guess they're starting to go down the list.. But will be declining the offer.
I am! Do you know if the school offers any database or anything to look for roommates?
I'm also from California and will be new to the area. Did you end up finding a roommate or housing? If so, where at? Thanks in advance!
Hi, did you end up finding a place to stay? If so, which apartment would you recommend? I'm starting my housing search and it's a bit challenging as I can't physically be there to look until I'm ready to move in.
i will be attending washington state university!Where else you get accepted?
i will be attending washington state university!
Hello! Are you still looking for a third roommate? I heard City View is next to a cemetery, I wonder if it's spooky at night? Haha If you're still looking for a roommate I'd love to know more details about the place through PM, thanks!Hi! I found my rooommate through FB and I'm looking for a third roommate. Are you interested? We might rent out an apartment called City View, which is only 1.5 miles away from school.
Hello! Are you still looking for a third roommate? I heard City View is next to a cemetery, I wonder if it's spooky at night? Haha If you're still looking for a roommate I'd love to know more details about the place through PM, thanks!
disappointing and discouraging, do you really try to tell the truth, I will start the first quarter in Aug and I'm not sure what 's your purpose of posting this? I already talk to some first year students when I had interview in MW, they had completely different ideas and opinions, if you have a problem and don not like attending, don't try to disappoint othersDo not attend Chicago College of Pharmacy
I am currently a first year student who has made it to my second year. I can not say that about many of my classmates, who have either been held back a year or completely failed out. Currently, there are about 30 students who are being held back and about 10 or so who have failed out. You have to imagine that some of those being held back will probably fail next year as you can not fail more than 3 classes your whole time here at CCP. One of my classmates who failed out had a felony on his record, not a dwi like some others had, (yes, a felony charge).
The average incoming classes PCAT scores were in the 3oth percentile. The average GPA was in the low 2's. It is like coming back to High school, people here are caddy, gossipy, immature and unprofessional. The school even started classes two weeks early for our class just so anyone who wanted to drop out can drop out and someone else take their place.
Here are my reasons to find another pharmacy school.
-Many of my class mates take Adderall and other stimulants to pass their classes. The top student in my class does some C2 to study.
-Your tuition will go up every year by 2000 dollars. By the time you graduate, you will be paying 46-48k for school. You are told that the increases are to pay staff a better wage. This does not mean that the school hires better professors, it just means they get paid more. No improvements occur to better your education. We even got an email not to study in chairs in one of the new buildings because it was interfering with the Dean's office.
-You pay a lot for tuition and get nothing in return. The school's gym and library are jokes.
The desks in the library are disgusting because people leave trash on them. They are not screwed in properly and make a ton of noise when you work on them, and finally there is not enough space. The school has books on shelves from 1992 but not enough desks to seat people. During finals, you will be fighting people for a place to sit. The library stays open until 12 midnight then kick you out to the "24" hour room which is even worse (because it smells). The bathroom's in the library and 24 hour room run out of soap and paper towels. They do not allow us to have hot water to wash our hands, even in the dead of winter in the bathrooms.
The gym is another joke. Exercise equipment from the 80's. The weight room was a closest they converted to a long hall with weights in them.
-The staff and some professors do not care about you. You can ask them for help and you are told, it is up to you. If you start to fail, then you qualify for tutoring, otherwise, you are on your own.
-Whoever makes the schedules probably hates you. Do you like taking exams at 7 am in the morning, No, neither do I. God forbid a Arctic-blasts sweeps in the night before a test, you will be told to either show up or fail. We once got an email the night before an exam where we have feet of snow dumped on top of us, telling us to use common sense and caution about driving to school. Common sense told me to stay at home and not risk my life to make it to class.
-Quarter system sucks, everything is crammed in. You sit in class from 8 am to 3 or 4. You are dead tired from being in class, then you have to study. You never have enough time to study.
-The dorms are prisons. Why would you want to pay close to a thousand dollars a month to have to share a bathroom and have no kitchen. Eating out is not healthy and is not cheap.
The lists goes on and on, take my advice, go somewhere else. Somewhere that is better. MWU cares only about money.
disappointing and discouraging, do you really try to tell the truth, I will start the first quarter in Aug and I'm not sure what 's your purpose of posting this? I already talk to some first year students when I had interview in MW, they had completely different ideas and opinions, if you have a problem and don not like attending, don't try to disappoint others
Forgot to mention about distant rotations
I was told by the upper classes that going back home for rotations are limited, especially if you are like me and are from Cali. I was told that about half of those who apply to do rotations are allowed to because of limited space back home. Also, the students who have gone back home and have not done well at their rotations sites have basically ruined it for us down the road. Those sites wouldn't even take Midwestern students any more. If you have a misdemeanor on your record, like a dui/dwi. You are not allowed to go back home for rotations. If you fail any class, you can't do distant rotations. As one upper class man said it "they initially tell you, you can go back home but in reality you are really limited to where you can go."
So lets say you have a friend who works at a hospital in Cali and they say, "sure, come do your rotation with me." They fill out paper work and send it to the school. They say, we will accept your student for 1500 dollars, the school responds with an offer of 300. They are not willing to meet eye to eye. I have heard of some upper class men offering to just pay that much so they can go to a hospital site, but the school does not allow them to and they miss out on the opportunity to go there for rotations.
I know Greensprings that I sound really biased towards MWU. You pay a lot of money for school. Your debt to income ratio favors debt. The facilities are not up to standard at MWU. You literally have to elbow someone during finals week for a spot to study. However they make the schedules are just brutal on you. I never thought pharm school would be easy because anything worth doing is never easy but the school does not use common sense. They do not make it an environment for cooperation between students and staff. One of my classmates had a felony charge on his record which the school knew about. A few others have had dui/dwi on their records. Adderall abuse is rampant (although it is for other schools/professions and undergrad).
Tuition keeps going up by 2 thousand dollars a year, 50% of the increase goes to wages. Yes, people have to eat but when the same terrible professors are kept year after year even though getting failing reviews by their students you would think there would be some sort of change.
I rather tell it how it is than smile and pretend everything is awesome. You have to think that those that are giving you the tours are using it as a resume builder and are getting some sort of incentive to be there.
I also forgot to say that I did not talk to those that gave us the tour but instead I talked and asked the questions from random students in Cafeteria , also I have two friends that graduated from MW ccp about 3 years ago, both have great job and both had great experiences in MWForgot to mention about distant rotations
I was told by the upper classes that going back home for rotations are limited, especially if you are like me and are from Cali. I was told that about half of those who apply to do rotations are allowed to because of limited space back home. Also, the students who have gone back home and have not done well at their rotations sites have basically ruined it for us down the road. Those sites wouldn't even take Midwestern students any more. If you have a misdemeanor on your record, like a dui/dwi. You are not allowed to go back home for rotations. If you fail any class, you can't do distant rotations. As one upper class man said it "they initially tell you, you can go back home but in reality you are really limited to where you can go."
So lets say you have a friend who works at a hospital in Cali and they say, "sure, come do your rotation with me." They fill out paper work and send it to the school. They say, we will accept your student for 1500 dollars, the school responds with an offer of 300. They are not willing to meet eye to eye. I have heard of some upper class men offering to just pay that much so they can go to a hospital site, but the school does not allow them to and they miss out on the opportunity to go there for rotations.
I know Greensprings that I sound really biased towards MWU. You pay a lot of money for school. Your debt to income ratio favors debt. The facilities are not up to standard at MWU. You literally have to elbow someone during finals week for a spot to study. However they make the schedules are just brutal on you. I never thought pharm school would be easy because anything worth doing is never easy but the school does not use common sense. They do not make it an environment for cooperation between students and staff. One of my classmates had a felony charge on his record which the school knew about. A few others have had dui/dwi on their records. Adderall abuse is rampant (although it is for other schools/professions and undergrad).
Tuition keeps going up by 2 thousand dollars a year, 50% of the increase goes to wages. Yes, people have to eat but when the same terrible professors are kept year after year even though getting failing reviews by their students you would think there would be some sort of change.
I rather tell it how it is than smile and pretend everything is awesome. You have to think that those that are giving you the tours are using it as a resume builder and are getting some sort of incentive to be there.
yes, green check means you completed those prerequisiteI know this might be a dumb question but does having all green check marks next to my prerequisites on my accepted student checklist mean I am good to go?
The Naplex is not a good measurement of the quality of education/students. If you actually learned the material, you will pass. There is no correlation between GPA and naplex pass rate.
I have classmates that drink every weekend, some others who smoke weed all the time. I am not sure how much they are growing professionally.
A quarter of my class failed out or are being held back, facts are facts. You just have to experience it for yourself.
you asked me to post my GPA and pcat scoreIsn't the whole point of a forum to tell the truth? Would you rather know what you are really about to face or would you want me to sugar coat it? All I can say is that you'll have to wait and experience it for yourself. If your class is anything like mine, half your class will fail your first physio exam, because mine did. We did significantly worse than the classes that are ahead of us. And that is not the only class that the large majority of my class was failing. If it was not for curves and bonus points, a lot more of my class would have failed. But like I said, you will just have to experience it for yourself. And then maybe you can give your honest opinion about whether or not to attend.
All I ask you of you is to post your class statistics (Average GPA and Pcat scores)
As far as laptops, they have added the cost of your new laptop to your first year tuition.
Being told that preceptors like MWU students should be taken with a grain of salt. The options are limited in Chicago. University of Illinois students are hands down the best. MWU are behind them because the troubles that Roosevelt and Chicago State have. Roosevelt is a brand new school who need time to iron out their wrinkles, and Chicago State has tons of issues like graduation rate of 16% for undergrad students and has been sued many times by students and staff. MWU students look great in front of Roosevelt and Chicago State students, not in front of UIC students.
As I mentioned above, I know UIC is a a better pharmacy school and is more competitive. I never said MW is better than UIC , I just mentioned MW has better Naplex rate, Although MW accept students with low GPA and Lower PCAT score compare to UIC, I just want to assure you people like you and your classmates that have Low GPA and low PCAT never had a chance to accept in UIC and also if you are not successful in MW be sure you could not able to pass courses in UIC because UIC is more challenging , you said people do not care to write anything after they are in, it is just your opinion , I saw many reviews and posts and comments from PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4 student that really care hlping people , SDN shows you re a member since 06/19/2015 but you said, you used SDN when you were interviewing, I know who you are, you just signed different ID, SDN needs opinion and posts from brave and honest peopleI asked about your class statistics, not your own.
I will remind you what my classes incoming stats are.
Average GPA in the low 2's
Average PCAT in the 30th percentile.
One of my classmates (who failed out) had a felony on his record, you have to ask why the school admitted a student who can't vote and would have been working around narcotics.
A few others with DUI's, again, why is the school allowing this type of students.
According to NAPB.net, 111 out of 121 schools have a naplex pass rate of over 90 %. That means 90% of pharmacy schools have a Naplex pass rate of over 90%. As far as I saw, no school had a failing Naplex pass rate. I only saw two with a pass rate or 75%, (Room for improvement, sure!) 11 schools with a Naplex pass rate in the 80th percentile and another 11 schools had a Nap pass rate of 100%. The vast majority of school's had a Nap pass rate of over 90%.
According to US News (2015) CCP is ranked 69 out of 87 ranked pharmacy schools. The 37 or so schools who are not ranked are new schools which include Chicago State and Roosevelt, so saying MWU students are preferred over them, well it is like comparing apples to oranges until they those schools get established. CCP is in the lower 20 % of all ranked schools. UIC is ranked 14 in the nation and in the top 16% of rank schools.
A 4.54% difference in Naplex passing rate between UIC and CCP is insignificant to say that UIC is doing way worse than CCP, since it is most likely within a single standard deviation.
Your friends who graduated and are doing well with their Pharm D degrees are probably doing just as well as anyone who has graduated with a Pharm D degree. They should have good jobs with good salaries. That is sort of expected.
As far as why don't you see more reviews of the school. Once you are in, why would you care to come back to SDN and use your time to write anything? I used SDN when I was interviewing. It provided me with tips for interview. Once I got in, I didn't care to see what others said on SDN. I wish I had an honest opinion of the school and gone else where. If MWU is your best option to become what you want to become, a pharmacist, well, take it. If you have options, take the best one. It is as simple as that. If MWU is your only option to become a pharmacist, well you have no choice but to go because it is the best school that accepted you.
What pharmacy do you work at?
Do not attend Chicago College of Pharmacy
I am currently a first year student who has made it to my second year. I can not say that about many of my classmates, who have either been held back a year or completely failed out. Currently, there are about 30 students who are being held back and about 15 or so who have failed out. You have to imagine that some of those being held back will probably fail next year as you can not fail more than 3 classes your whole time here at CCP. One of my classmates who failed out had a felony on his record, not a dwi like some others had, (yes, a felony charge).
As I mentioned above, I know UIC is a a better pharmacy school and is more competitive. I never said MW is better than UIC , I just mentioned MW has better Naplex rate, Although MW accept students with low GPA and Lower PCAT score compare to UIC, I just want to assure you people like you and your classmates that have Low GPA and low PCAT never had a chance to accept in UIC and also if you are not successful in MW be sure you could not able to pass courses in UIC because UIC is more challenging , you said people do not care to write anything after they are in, it is just your opinion , I saw many reviews and posts and comments from PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4 student that really care hlping people , SDN shows you re a member since 06/19/2015 but you said, you used SDN when you were interviewing, I know who you are, you just signed different ID, SDN needs opinion and posts from brave and honest people
Hello, since MWU CCP not longer requires a supplemental, how does the selection of interview dates work for applicants? If you submit the application in September would it be possible to select an interview date in December or January (in the event that you are waiting to hear back from another school) or do they only give you a a few interview dates to choose from that are within a month or two after submitting your pharmcas app?