Misrepresentation on AMCAS

[med4mee]

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[Affiche]

You are trying to sabotage their chances. Be honest about what your goal is.

Not that I'm advocating for misrepresenting involvement in ECs, but everyone is going to try and play up their ECs to make them look more impressive than they actually are. That's how applications work, for better or for worse.

The fact that you're even considering interfering with the application of multiple people is disgusting. Get over your collegiate bitterness and focus on yourself.

Good grief. This is why I stayed far, far away from pre-med clubs.

 

[ndafife]

I'm going to leave it at mind your own business and stop being a busybody. There is 0 reason for you to go out of your way to notify AMCAS in the off chance that they misrepresent their involvement.

Here's a great quote for this situation: "Never worry about what I'm doing. Only worry about why you're worried about what I'm doing."

 

[Rogert]

I'm going to leave it at mind your own business and stop being a busybody. There is 0 reason for you to go out of your way to notify AMCAS in the off chance that they misrepresent their involvement.

Here's a great quote for this situation: "Never worry about what I'm doing. Only worry about why you're worried about what I'm doing."

Are you OK with them continuing to exaggerate their involvement in activities in the future?

 

[Proteinz]

I wouldn't do that if I were you. You could be shooting yourself in the foot. They might interpret this as you and the other President not being able to lead others, which could affect you more than it would affect them. They might also gang up on you. Or you could also come off as trying to sabotage others.

 

[ndafife]

Are you OK with them continuing to exaggerate their involvement in activities in the future?

That's their issue, not mine.

 

[Rogert]

That's their issue, not mine.

What if they were to get a residency spot you both were competing for because they exaggerated their involvement in activities?

 

[Affiche]

What if they were to get a residency spot you both were competing for because they exaggerated their involvement in activities?

Who actually gives a flying **** about a pre-med club?

OP: There is a part on the application that requires you to list a contact to confirm involvement in each EC listed. If you are contacted, you can outline what their involvement was. Also, there is no such thing as "an important pre-med club on campus". Get over yourself.

 

[heebeejeebies]

This is why people hate pre-meds. Leave it be.

 

[heebeejeebies]

Who actually gives a flying **** about a pre-med club?

Literally no one who matters. I didn't even think about adding it. It provides no service to the community, no clinical experience and no value to society. Here's a t-shirt, 15% off TPR and we host 1-2 mock interviews a semester, thanks for your $30 club fee hur hur.

 

[Rogert]

Who actually gives a flying **** about a pre-med club?

OP: there is no such thing as "an important pre-med club on campus". Get over yourself.

I'm not disagreeing that this particular thing is meaningless. But current actions indicate future actions. This seems like an easy thing to nip in the bud (assuming there's hard evidence).

 

[whitemagic]

I have nothing else to add other than my personal opinion towards OP: simply put, you are a complete scumbag. You claim you don't want to sabotage them, but that's exactly what you're doing. Get off your high horse. You're the leader of a meaningless premed club, not the president of the country. Even if they did lie, you are are in no position to determine who deserves to go to medical school and who doesn't. Let AMCAS deal with it. I know people like you in real life (club presidents on severe power trips) and I hate them with a passion. Mind your own damn business.

 

[Gingerbread_Man]

Wow OP this is one of the most petty and spiteful things I’ve read in a while. You lost all credibility when you claimed to be an “important pre-med organization”. Get over it and worry about you.

 

[Affiche]

@xyphr 's post 🤣

So true, though

 

[ndafife]

What if they were to get a residency spot you both were competing for because they exaggerated their involvement in activities?

Whats with the moral grilling here?

In the overall scheme of the application: MCAT, GPA, 14 other activities (factoring in research, clinical experience, etc...), Personal statement, Letters of recommendation, secondary essays, and interview - an exaggeration of involvement in a single activity matters so close to 0 that its not even funny. Nobody is losing a spot because someone who was only kind of involved "might" be saying they were really involved

 

[Affiche]

And really, isn't "involvement" in any pre-med club an exaggeration?

I think the OP's claim of being part of "an important pre-med organization" is an exaggeration. Should I call AMCAS and clarify that their club is actually not important?

 

[HCHopeful]

Lol it's funny... because all of the people bashing OP are the ones exaggerating (lying) their activities, and they're threatened because they know they're in the wrong.

Ya'll need to calm the eff down. OP is not a scumbag or horrible person for wanting justice. Everyone who thinks it's okay to exaggerate your role and hours for an activity are the true scumbags.

Having said that, don't do it, OP. There is no good to gain, and you'll just end up coming across as a gunner. Focus on making your application the best it can be and don't worry about them.

 

[HCHopeful]

I take integrity very seriously, and would never exaggerate or fabricate information on my application. There's a difference between advocating exaggerating on your application and believing that people should not meddle in others' personal affairs. Mine is the latter.

That's a fair stance to take, and I completely agree with not meddling. I don't, however, believe it's necessary to call OP a scumbag.

 

[Affiche]

Lol it's funny... because all of the people bashing OP are the ones exaggerating (lying) their activities, and they're threatened because they know they're in the wrong.

I didn't exaggerate a single thing on my application. If anything, I downplayed my disadvantaged status, hours of involvement in ECs, and left off a significant number of work experiences and ECs because I didn't qualify them as "meaningful".

Nor am I threatened by a pre-med gunner that potentially feels its necessary to exaggerate involvement in a pre-med club. lol.

I have an issue with some snot-nosed pre-med thinking it's his/her place to interfere with someone else's application. There are EC contacts listed for a reason. There are interviews for a reason. Let the process work itself out.

 

[Rogert]

Whats with the moral grilling here?

In the overall scheme of the application: MCAT, GPA, 14 other activities (factoring in research, clinical experience, etc...), Personal statement, Letters of recommendation, secondary essays, and interview - an exaggeration of involvement in a single activity matters so close to 0 that its not even funny. Nobody is losing a spot because someone who was only kind of involved "might" be saying they were really involved

This is deflection, not a response. Regardless, people keep saying it's none of whoever's business. These people are your potential peers and classmates and potentially future physicians. I'm not sure why people don't think that makes it their business.

 

[Affiche]

I take integrity very seriously, and would never exaggerate or fabricate information on my application. There's a difference between advocating exaggerating on your application and believing that people should not meddle in others' personal affairs. Mine is the latter.

This. Exactly this.

 

[ndafife]

This is deflection, not a response. Regardless, people keep saying it's none of whoever's business. These people are your potential peers and classmates and potentially future physicians. I'm not sure why people don't think that makes it their business.

Its not my business because its someone else's business. I don't get what you're arguing with me for. I'm done with this thread.

 

[Master3930]

Honestly, who cares if they made up stuff about the club that is not going to be the end all and be all of what gets them into med school.

 

[aesklepi]

Hi All,

I am a co-president of an important pre-med organization on campus. We had multiple e-board members this year who simply did not fulfill their required duties, and we had to remove them. Trust me, we tried really really hard to be nice to them, but they repeatedly took advantage of us being "nice" and came up with an excuse each time we tried to discuss their bad performance with them. They are all in the process of applying to medical school. Without going into too many details, we have substantial reason to believe that they are misrepresenting their experience and contributions to the organization on their applications. Do you know if there is any way we can report this potential misrepresentation to amcas?

Honestly, we're not just trying to sabotage their chances. We simply feel that this is the ethical thing to do.

Thank you!

You want to stay classy. For every activity, the members have to put a point of contact. If medical schools call, then you can do your thing. Otherwise, stay quiet.

 

[Master3930]

You want to stay classy. For every activity, the members have to put a point of contact. If medical schools call, then you can do your thing. Otherwise, stay quiet.

Just to be fair, if you're going to BS an activity on AMCAS you probably won't put OP as your contact, you might put yourself say you're president of the club and had no other contact... If these people are BSing they definitely aren't putting OP as the contact or anyone else from the club

 

[candbgirl]

OP how would you even do
Something like that? Call? Write a letter? Email? Who cares?

 

[northernlights15]

How about you just worry about yourself?

 

[jl lin]

"med4me" is probably trolling.

This would be like me whining to the professors over every person in a group assignment/project that really didn't pull their weight or waited until the last minute, and then some of us had to rush around fixing their part at the very, very last minute. There's not a lot you can do in such a situation other than your best to make the project/assignment great. You can't waste time worrying about those that really don't deserve the A.

People that don't or won't pull their weight will be found out in the clinical frying pan/fire. They will either change or be found out as those that can't roll up their sleeves, work together, and care about the whole. Here's the other part. In general, the professor's or assistants really don't care if Joe and Jane aren't pulling weight. They don't want to get caught up in those weeds. Do you actually think AMCAS will want to get tangled up in such weeds? Probably not. Move on.

 

[northernlights15]

There's an interesting ethics question I've seen that asks if you saw your roommate lying on their AMCAS, what would would you do?

I think the obvious answer to tell interviewers is that you'd report it but everyone would agree it's best not to meddle in other's affairs.

 

[Affiche]

This thread just brought to light that I really need to clean up my language before interview season lol.

 

[medic86]

This thread just brought to light that I really need to clean up my language before interview season lol.

Tell me about it. Lol.

 

[Easonred57]