Moderation

[Noyac]

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This forum needs new moderation. Someone that understands the TOS and is willing to implement the rules. There is a fine line between hands-off and a total lack of control.

 

[narcusprince]

You know who was a good moderator VentDependent! Where are you when we need you!!! This place has degenerated into a pis!@# contest. Lets get back to the science and less with the egos.

 

[pgg]

Yeah, I like the hands-off philosophy and even the off-topic threads on cars and guns and lawn care etc ...

But some more aggressive threadlocking for the lookit-me threads and temporary account holds for people who repeatedly violate the TOS would be a good start.

 

[Noyac]

Yeah, I like the hands-off philosophy and even the off-topic threads on cars and guns and lawn care etc ...

But some more aggressive threadlocking for the lookit-me threads and temporary account holds for people who repeatedly violate the TOS would be a good start.

I've been suggesting this for weeks.

 

[periopdoc]

It is getting to the point that I mostly skip the main forum and go to the private forum exclusively. I've been thinking about switching over to Sermo if things don't improve here.

-pod 🙁

 

[geogil]

I agree with all of the above, I think the ol' 'account hold' hammer should be wielded with slightly more vigor. Three accounts in particular spring to mind...

 

[Planktonmd]

I think Arch has been doing a good job with this forum, and above all he is able to remain neutral and not become part of the problem.
The personal conflicts that took place here were not his fault, and I take responsibility for my share of them, but had he suppressed them using the moderation stick he would have been immediately accused of censorship and the same people criticizing him here would have jumped all over him and accused him of being a dictator.
Actually despite the very forgiving approach he has, he has been already accused of censorship and intolerance, and many people who are now requesting more moderation thought that he was too harsh dealing with a certain individual who intentionally broke every TOS.
So, let's not blame it on Arch and let's take responsibility for our actions.

 

[Coastie]

You know who was a good moderator VentDependent! Where are you when we need you!!! This place has degenerated into a pis!@# contest. Lets get back to the science and less with the egos.

He's not in anesthesia anymore.


Guys, don't head over to Sermo. Stay here.

The people who are misbehaving and acting like kids should stop.

 

[nlfru]

I agree with a little more moderation. We have attending physicians bickering like 8th graders and delusional "famous hollywood writer" premeds with a "calling" here spouting all kinds of crap. Someone PLEASE grab Jets shotgun before everyone is off to sermo.

 

[Arch Guillotti]

The people who are misbehaving and acting like kids should stop.

let's take responsibility for our actions

Heeding the above advice would solve a lot of problems on this forum.

this forum, one that has been wildly out of control over the past month... for which I will admittedly take some responsibility.

The personal conflicts that took place here were not his fault, and I take responsibility for my share of them

So here we have 2 attending physicians who have admitted to causing problems, and knowing that they were causing problems. Unfortunately, I don't have a fix for people acting inappropriately (short of a ban).

I hope that the others who have caused the problems (you know who you are) will cease and desist.

 

[doctor712]

I'm feeling all Zen, NLFRU. So, I'm not going to go after you again here, on a thread ASKING for moderation from both moderators and participants, a place you STILL cannot let it go. Wow.

D712

 

[Arch Guillotti]

I'm feeling all Zen, NLFRU. So, I'm not going to go after you again here, on a thread ASKING for moderation from both moderators and participants, a place you STILL cannot let it go. Wow.

D712

I consider you to be part of the problem, doctor712. Get it together.

 

[okayplayer]

delusional "famous hollywood writer" premeds with a "calling" here spouting all kinds of crap.

haha, this is killing me

 

[doctor712]

haha, this is killing me

I consider you to be part of the problem, doctor712. Get it together.

Arch,

I take blame for my part.

Between my posts re: Copro lately (on his 'this forum is for Doctors thread') and my other recent replies here, I would hope you've noticed a large change in attitude and posting style. The style for which I held myself for over a year here.

(This is despite feeling others initiated crap with me, I'll take blame for my replies.)

Can we now focus on those who are still after blood? Those who are STILL posting, TODAY, with an attempt to charge things up. Enough already, really, seriously.

I might have caused my share of this, but the incessant drive-by posts are HOW THIS STARTED, A COMMON MO and are really boring. For an example, scroll up one post! I'm doing my part Arch.

D712

 

[Prof Moriarty]

Yeah, I mentioned this forum to an anesthesiology attending the other day and he asked me to send him a link to it. It's usually pretty easy to ignore the occasional garbage here but I knew something was wrong when I felt compelled to apologetically point out that a few "rogue" posters were polluting what had been (and otherwise was) the best forum on SDN by using it to carry out ad nauseum personal attacks on each other (and anyone else in the line of fire).

A little bit of feistiness adds spice to the forum and can be entertaining and sometimes even instructive. But this stuff lately is just 😴.

Anyway, if you're a first-time user and you come here and see all this unprofessional crap and you don't know about all the good stuff hidden underneath it, what are you gonna do? Probably not stick around. Or if you do, you may think this is how the board operates and mimic the behavior, perpetuating the problem. Either way the forum loses. And the environment on the board becomes increasingly toxic for the rest of us. Bottom line: it's unprofessional. You might expect it from a militant nurse or your average pre-med. As a community of professionals or those of us aspiring to be such, we should expect more.

Being a member of society is a privilege. And this forum is like a society. If people choose to be antisocial in "the real world", there are consequences. If you can't live by the basic rules that make society civil, then you lose the privilege (until you can show that you are rehabilitated). Why should it be different here?

I don't think we need a new moderator. I just think we need to empower our moderator carry out his sacred duties with efficiency and aplomb.

 

[militarymd]

hey ...can't help it if some people keep harassing me after I've put him on ignore.....

as can be seen from my other thread.....

CONTINUED harassment.....AFTER I have COMPLETELY IGNORED him.

arch...I give you permission to ban him.

 

[Planktonmd]

This is obviously another attempt to provoke a silly exchange.
So I am going to do the right thing and report you for harassment.
I know that you will not get banned, actually I don't want you to get banned because you are just too amusing, but I feel that I should report you according to the TOS's.

hey ...can't help it if some people keep harassing me after I've put him on ignore.....

as can be seen from my other thread.....

CONTINUED harassment.....AFTER I have COMPLETELY IGNORED him.

arch...I give you permission to ban him.

 

[Pooh & Annie]

hey ...can't help it if some people keep harassing me after I've put him on ignore.....

as can be seen from my other thread.....

CONTINUED harassment.....AFTER I have COMPLETELY IGNORED him.

arch...I give you permission to ban him.

You've got some growing up to do too, dude

 

[coprolalia]

This is obviously another attempt to provoke a silly exchange.
So I am going to do the right thing and report you for harassment.
I know that you will not get banned, actually I don't want you to get banned because you are just too amusing, but I feel that I should report you according to the TOS's.

Pot, meet kettle.

-copro

 

[Arch Guillotti]

D712
MMD
copro
Plank

You all have acted completely unprofessionally at times (some more frequently that others).

Rather than me going around and "disciplinig" each one of you (which is entirely possible - I am sure I could run up enough TOS violations to ban you all by this evening) why don't you act like adults. Three of the four of you are ATTENDING PHYSICIANS and yet every one of you has acted like a 2 YEAR OLD at various times.

I have been watching this forum go in the crapper for quite some time, hoping that everyone could quite ACTING LIKE JERKS.

Is this too much to ask?

 

[militarymd]

D712
MMD
copro
Plank

You all have acted completely unprofessionally at times (some more frequently that others).

Rather than me going around and "disciplinig" each one of you (which is entirely possible - I am sure I could run up enough TOS violations to ban you all by this evening) why don't you act like adults. Three of the four of you are ATTENDING PHYSICIANS and yet every one of you has acted like a 2 YEAR OLD at various times.

I have been watching this forum go in the crapper for quite some time, hoping that everyone could quite ACTING LIKE JERKS.

Is this too much to ask?

fine ...if you can't see what my behavior has been since I put plank on ignore...and what his has been...

then I guess I'll just stick with the crna forums....

 

[Planktonmd]

I will be more than happy to comply with your request/ threat but if at any point I get insulted by copro or his master you can't expect me to let it slide unless you are willing to act on it.
I was not the one who attacked either one of them and all I have done was responding to unprovoked attacks that you (hopefully) have noticed.
I am willing to take responsibility for my actions but I will not tolerate inappropriate language or insults from anyone.

D712
MMD
copro
Plank

You all have acted completely unprofessionally at times (some more frequently that others).

Rather than me going around and "disciplinig" each one of you (which is entirely possible - I am sure I could run up enough TOS violations to ban you all by this evening) why don't you act like adults. Three of the four of you are ATTENDING PHYSICIANS and yet every one of you has acted like a 2 YEAR OLD at various times.

I have been watching this forum go in the crapper for quite some time, hoping that everyone could quite ACTING LIKE JERKS.

Is this too much to ask?

 

[Arch Guillotti]

Everybody is going to point the finger at everyone else.

I appreciate the fact that some of you have owned up to roiling things up in here.

Everyone involved just needs to STAND DOWN.

 

[coprolalia]

Is this too much to ask?

Arch,

I have witnessed the deterioration of this forum, as well, over the past year. This has been, in no small part, due primarily to the behavior of a single individual, who also happened to be a moderator at one point. His was both abuse of position and power in my estimation. He left he forum in a gruff, grumpy manner, and then came back in an exceedingly arrogant manner.

You know the old Chinese proverb, "Never wrestle a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it." Well, I am not actually the pig here. But, I have been in the sty wrestling with one. My only intent was to fully expose this person as the truly narcissistic and exceedingly annoying person that he was. I feel that I have now accomplished that goal.

Having said that, I will desist in my ongoing feud with him. From this point forward. I will not instigate (as I've always stated), but I will respond. It is my nature. I won't apologize for that. Complacency and toleration of individuals forwarding a ruthless agenda is, in no small part, thematic in the current problems we face in this country. Consider this forum a microcosm for that.

Plankton's and my views on life are, clearly, diametrically opposed. I don't respect his views. We've agreed to post on non-clinical topics here. I like that. But, with that will necessarily cause spill-over into other areas of discussion.... and, you will agree, Plankton has been as relentless trying to destroy MMD as I have been trying to knock him down a few pegs as well.

I agree it needs to stop. I don't have confidence that it can, though, based upon the complete and utter arrogance of all currently involved, present company included. Just understand who is being "reactive" and who is seeking a fight... and that goes back historically, too.

Respectfully,

-copro

 

[Pooh & Annie]

You know how you get those attendings that are just amazing in every aspect of what they do? They know how to teach, they're professional, well liked by everyone, and they seem to always have it all together? How sad is it that there doesn't seem to be a single one of those on this forum. I'll apologize in advance, because maybe I'm missing someone. I DO know periopdoc, and he's pretty close to that level, although he's still in training.
I really hope people aren't checking out these threads and thinking that this is what the anesthesiologist mentality is all about. ESPECIALLY considering attendings are the biggest contributors to this bulls&%t. Sad. Embarrassing.

 

[Planktonmd]

There is a difference between pointing fingers and stating facts.
I am stating facts, I came back to this forum and was immediately attacked by copro for no reason, no one addressed that so I responded.
I was also attacked by MMD in the middle of a clinical discussion and again no one acted on it so I responded.
I took it a bit too far but it was absolutely provoked and orchestrated by these two.

Everybody is going to point the finger at everyone else.

I appreciate the fact that some of you have owned up to roiling things up in here.

Everyone involved just needs to STAND DOWN.

 

[doctor712]

I will be more than happy to comply with your request/ threat but if at any point I get insulted by copro or his master you can't expect me to let it slide unless you are willing to act on it.
I was not the one who attacked either one of them and all I have done was responding to unprovoked attacks that you (hopefully) have noticed.
I am willing to take responsibility for my actions but I will not tolerate inappropriate language or insults from anyone.

Arch,
I echo Plankton's feelings. Getting singled out here, when others - who have completely broadsided me, (beginning with the Ketamine thread, then the Ten Lumps of Coal thread, all the way down to the Moderation thread) today, after laying off Copro's recent posts, and taking a different turn in my posts, is very frustrating.
Nevertheless, you're the Mod.
D712

 

[2win]

You know how you get those attendings that are just amazing in every aspect of what they do? They know how to teach, they're professional, well liked by everyone, and they seem to always have it all together? How sad is it that there doesn't seem to be a single one of those on this forum. I'll apologize in advance, because maybe I'm missing someone. I DO know periopdoc, and he's pretty close to that level, although he's still in training.
I really hope people aren't checking out these threads and thinking that this is what the anesthesiologist mentality is all about. ESPECIALLY considering attendings are the biggest contributors to this bulls&%t. Sad. Embarrassing.

Are you an anesthesiologist?
If you are - be kind and explain to us (the embarrassing ones ) about the " anesthesiologist mentality".
2win

 

[doctor712]

You know the old Chinese proverb, "Never wrestle a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it." Well, I am not actually the pig here. But, I have been in the sty wrestling with one.

Having said that, I will desist in my ongoing feud with him. From this point forward. I will not instigate (as I've always stated), but I will respond. It is my nature. I won't apologize for that. Complacency and toleration of individuals forwarding a ruthless agenda is, in no small part, thematic in the current problems we face in this country. Consider this forum a microcosm for that.

-copro

To Copro,

Note: read this without any sarcasm, overtones, undertones, semitones, or harshness that one might want to having been through the verbal crap we've been through. It's not meant to be hostile, it's not meant to be inflammatory, it's not meant to incite, QUITE THE OPPOSITE. So, grab some tea, or something soft, gentle, like chocolate milk, and a cookie. Yes? Ok.

Having said that.

I read your above post re: Plankton. And let me, in the name of being forthright, and open, ask you a question. I respect your post above.

I've been on the Anesthesia forum for about a year. You've seen my name. You've seen my interested posts. My interest in anesthesia. Maybe you read my MDApps when it was still linked, it only took one click, surely there was ammunition there if you wanted it, so it's not that farfetched. Anyway, I've been an active pre-med member of the Anesthesia forum. Frankly, until about a month ago, I was probably the exact sort of Pre-med member that the Attendings would like to see here. Pretty quiet, and appropriately curious when, well, appropriate.

(read note again, now, please continue)...

When I posted my view on medicine, you came down hard, insulting me, yes? When I said it was a calling, you came down harder, insulting me again, yes? When I was in the middle of the Ketamine War of 2009 with "her", I think you came down on me being a pre-med. In general. Old. etc etc. Mentioning I wouldn't even get into MD school. Insulting further, yes?
When I posted my note in the thread about the Secret Service agent and his story about Kennedy, unprovoked, you insulted my writing, and then we were off and running.

So, I can't help but ask you: the way you feel about your "feud" with Plankton, imagine how I feel after being blindsided by you? You threw the arsenal at me. I emptied the silos back. You feel you didn't start with Plankton, (pre-dates me, so I have no idea), imagine how I felt when you came after me and the pre-med/writing/anesthesia/medicine calling thing?

Had I ever even ADDRESSED you at that point in the game? That's instigating. By definition.

(read note again, if need be).

I feel like I've been in the pigsty for about a month now. After keeping nice and clean for 12 months.

Whether someone is arrogant, insecure or thick headed, I never came after YOU. So, if that's how you feel about your issues with others here, so be it, but can you at least agree that this is what you did to me?
I accept 1000% of blame for my replies. I could have simply ignored you, however, for whatever, inappropriate reasons, I didn't.
I'm not certain if you and I are really polar opposites, or maybe you see something in me that you saw in yourself when you were just starting out. Or any of the 100 other possibilities that brought you to shoot a shot across my bow with the writing and calling thing. No idea. Not so concerned. Curious, sure.

But to get kicked in the teeth at this stage on my trip in this game, not a good feeling. That's where my replies came from. I can hold my own in other worlds. But remember: I'm on your turf, playing your game, with your friends, on your watch. I'm Dean. Walking onto Jerry's stage. Only thing is, Jerry accepted him. Whether or not he liked him, missed him, hated him, he accepted Dean on his turf. (for those of you too young...oh, nevermind). I treaded lightly, very lightly, for months and months, posting very sporadically. Then, I got pulled into the mud.

I could have PMd this to you. But why do that when the entire forum can see what I'm writing to you. Directly. They've had to read the rest of this, so now they're going to read this too. Look, I'm not looking for a date, but we can surely modify the rules should you WANT to. Perhaps we'll both get a better enjoyment factor out of SDN Anesthesia, from our unique POVs, maybe we can actually, mutually, LEARN something. Imagine what that could do for the rest of the peeps here. MMD, Plank, Noy, included.
That's the olive branch, not sure what you want to do with it.

D712

 

[Gern Blansten]

You know how you get those attendings that are just amazing in every aspect of what they do? They know how to teach, they're professional, well liked by everyone, and they seem to always have it all together? How sad is it that there doesn't seem to be a single one of those on this forum.

The same reason that good honest people don't go into politics. Why set yourself up for that kind of abuse.

 

[coprolalia]

D712,

Honestly, I saw you started to address me and then, to be frank, I didn't even look at the rest of your post. You're just long-winded and tiresome. So, don't waste your breath on my account. Seriously. I really don't care what you have to say about me or the entire healthcare field for that matter. You'll learn. You're making a big mistake, at you age, going into this field. That's all you need to know from me. Someday you'll figure that out. Or, you'll live your entire rest of your professional life deluding yourself in some vain attempt to prove me wrong.

-copro

 

[doctor712]

Ok, Arch and Everyone,

I tried.

D712

 

[Gern Blansten]

 

[Eta Carinae]

then I guess I'll just stick with the crna forums....

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AticUMDffKA[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Lee]

OK, message received. So that nobody is gets an unwelcome surprise, this is serves as 24 hours notice for the misbehavior to end.

Aggressive moderation will occur thereafter with the goal of guiding the forum to operate with the same TOS policies as the rest of SDN.

 

[Camel]

OK, message received. So that nobody is gets an unwelcome surprise, this is serves as 24 hours notice for the misbehavior to end.

Aggressive moderation will occur thereafter with the goal of guiding the forum to operate with the same TOS policies as the rest of SDN.

I got confused for a second and thought this was facebook... I was looking for the "likes this" button.

 

[Eta Carinae]

Originally Posted by Lee
OK, message received. So that nobody is gets an unwelcome surprise, this is serves as 24 hours notice for the misbehavior to end.

Aggressive moderation will occur thereafter with the goal of guiding the forum to operate with the same TOS policies as the rest of SDN.

I got confused for a second and thought this was facebook... I was looking for the "likes this" button.

👍

 

[coprolalia]

In other words, welcome to the complete pussification of the best forum on the entire Student Doctor Network.

👎

Sermo, here I come...

-copro

 

[nap$ter]

It is getting to the point that I mostly skip the main forum and go to the private forum exclusively. I've been thinking about switching over to Sermo if things don't improve here.

-pod 🙁

there is some good stuff on this forum - i had begun to participate as i found some of it useful in clarifying my thinking for residency and my future practice.

however, i find it so tedious and time-consuming to wade through the constant bickering on here from some individuals (attendings!!) that i went elsewhere. it's hard to find the clinical tidbits amongst the personal vendettas.

if it continues, i suspect the individuals in question will have this forum all to themselves (although it sounds as if they may all wind up talking to themselves as they will have placed the others on "ignore")

if it continues i for one don't have the time to sort the science from the bs, and will be on sermo...

 

[coprolalia]

there is some good stuff on this forum - i had begun to participate as i found some of it useful in clarifying my thinking for residency and my future practice.

however, i find it so tedious and time-consuming to wade through the constant bickering on here from some individuals (attendings!!) that i went elsewhere. it's hard to find the clinical tidbits amongst the personal vendettas.

if it continues, i suspect the individuals in question will have this forum all to themselves (although it sounds as if they may all wind up talking to themselves as they will have placed the others on "ignore")

if it continues i for one don't have the time to sort the science from the bs, and will be on sermo...

👍

The best thing about Sermo is that you actually have to be a qualified physician to participate, people can track your behavior, and the content is mainly clinical and represents opinions on probably what represents the best, at least most current, practices in a particular field.

The worst thing about Sermo is that I'm not necessarily sure that I trust them with my personal physician information. I wouldn't be surprised to see that, someday, information posted there ending-up in court, even with the quality review/quality assurance protected clauses.

Nonetheless, will not have to wade through the chaff of all the nurses, students, and other yet-to-be-provens that populate and heavily opine on this forum. Likewise, I've only ever been looking for stimulating discussion on a variety of topics that don't involve one or two posters historically trying to dominate and domineer every clinical thread (ahem... Plankton... ahem... BladeMDA... ahem). So, I started posting off-topic... and Mr. Bigmouth couldn't stay out of those either.

When the heavy-hand comes out, bye-bye... and good riddance.

-copro

P.S. BTW, I'm not "coprolalia" on Sermo. So, don't waste your time. 🙂

 

[Arch Guillotti]

Lee has spoken, and he has the final word. If you didn't know he is the guy who started this website back in the day. He is probably the most level-headed person around here. This was a decision that was made after much discussion.

The users of the forum have spoken (publically and privately) and indicated that they are tired of the constant thread hijacking and bickering that has made this forum an unpleasant place. They are also tired of the personal agendas that are routinely carried out here and attacks on other users.

I am not going to actively police threads and report people. I never have and I never will. The forum will not be censored (it never has despite certain claims).

What will happen is that the moderation will be brought closer to the rest of SDN. In all the other moderated forums on SDN, users are allowed NOWHERE NEAR the latitiude that has been allowed here.

I am simply going to try and restore some order here since certain users could not do it themselves.

I am depending on users to report posts AS NEEDED. This is the only way that this will work. I cannot emphasize this enough. Please report posts that are objectionable.

There are going to be some unhappy users, but this is nothing new. Moderation usually means that someone is going to be unhappy.

On a lighter note, there will likely be some new help around here to help with things in the near future.

 

[Arch Guillotti]

If anyone has comments, grievances, questiosn, etc. - this is the thread to voice them.

 

[Noyac]

You know how you get those attendings that are just amazing in every aspect of what they do? They know how to teach, they're professional, well liked by everyone, and they seem to always have it all together? How sad is it that there doesn't seem to be a single one of those on this forum. I'll apologize in advance, because maybe I'm missing someone. I DO know periopdoc, and he's pretty close to that level, although he's still in training.
I really hope people aren't checking out these threads and thinking that this is what the anesthesiologist mentality is all about. ESPECIALLY considering attendings are the biggest contributors to this bulls&%t. Sad. Embarrassing.

Sorry if I have disappointed you.

 

[Arch Guillotti]

This is a little dramatic. There are plenty of good folks around here.

You know how you get those attendings that are just amazing in every aspect of what they do? They know how to teach, they're professional, well liked by everyone, and they seem to always have it all together? How sad is it that there doesn't seem to be a single one of those on this forum. I'll apologize in advance, because maybe I'm missing someone. I DO know periopdoc, and he's pretty close to that level, although he's still in training.
I really hope people aren't checking out these threads and thinking that this is what the anesthesiologist mentality is all about. ESPECIALLY considering attendings are the biggest contributors to this bulls&%t. Sad. Embarrassing.

 

[Noyac]

Lee has spoken, and he has the final word. If you didn't know he is the guy who started this website back in the day. He is probably the most level-headed person around here. This was a decision that was made after much discussion.

The users of the forum have spoken (publically and privately) and indicated that they are tired of the constant thread hijacking and bickering that has made this forum an unpleasant place. They are also tired of the personal agendas that are routinely carried out here and attacks on other users.

I am not going to actively police threads and report people. I never have and I never will. The forum will not be censored (it never has despite certain claims).

What will happen is that the moderation will be brought closer to the rest of SDN. In all the other moderated forums on SDN, users are allowed NOWHERE NEAR the latitiude that has been allowed here.

I am simply going to try and restore some order here since certain users could not do it themselves.

I am depending on users to report posts AS NEEDED. This is the only way that this will work. I cannot emphasize this enough. Please report posts that are objectionable.

There are going to be some unhappy users, but this is nothing new. Moderation usually means that someoneis going o be unhappy.

On a lighter note, there will likely be some new help around here to help wth things in the near future.

It didn't have to happen this way.

 

[pgg]

In other words, welcome to the complete pussification of the best forum on the entire Student Doctor Network.

👎

Sermo, here I come...

-copro

Oh for ****'s sake, I get less drama out of my kids.

You think Sermo will welcome pissing matches like the one you and plankton have inflicted on this forum?

 

[Planktonmd]

I hope this change is not going to kill the forum as we knew it (I am not very optimistic here).
This forum has a wealth of knowledge and a permanent record of career and life experiences of many of us.
There is no other forum on the internet that covers all the aspects of our specialty including intimate details about our lives, our hobbies our political views and even our bad habits.
It is regrettable that some of our young colleagues can not see any value in this forum and it is also regrettable that the forum is going to become just another one of SDN specialty forums.

 

[Noyac]

I hope this change is not going to kill the forum as we knew it (I am not very optimistic here).
This forum has a wealth of knowledge and a permanent record of career and life experiences of many of us.
There is no other forum on the internet that covers all the aspects of our specialty including intimate details about our lives, our hobbies our political views and even our bad habits.
It is regrettable that some of our young colleagues can not see any value in this forum and it is also regrettable that the forum is going to become just another one of SDN specialty forums.

YOu can thank yourself for this if it is the outcome. You of all people (a past moderator here) should have behaved more professionally. 👎

 

[Planktonmd]

I am not sure why you are so upset!
You are the one who is asking for more moderation and you are going to get what you wanted.
I know that MMD is your friend but you should not blame all this mess on me especially that you are a "past moderator" yourself and you should act more professionally!
Anyway, there is no point in arguing with you, If you or anyone else feels that I was the one who dragged this place down then there is nothing I can do to change your mind and I really don't care what you think.
I defended myself and my opinions and I have nothing to apologize for.

YOu can thank yourself for this if it is the outcome. You of all people (a past moderator here) should have behaved more professionally. 👎

 

[Noyac]

I am not sure why you are so upset!
You are the one who is asking for more moderation and you are going to get what you wanted.
I know that MMD is your friend but you should not blame all this mess on me especially that you are a "past moderator" yourself and you should act more professionally!
Anyway, there is no point in arguing with you, If you or anyone else feels that I was the one who dragged this place down then there is nothing I can do to change your mind and I really don't care what you think.
I defended myself and my opinions and I have nothing to apologize for.

OK, let me rephrase this. You and our cronies can thank yourselves for this.

is that better?

If I have acted unprofessionally, I apologize. But I don't this is the case. Let me know if it is.