Moldova Dental School - Ask your Questions

[Alex Moldova Dental]

You are spreading false information. I have upperclassmen friends who have confirmed paying for their course. I explained to them my concern about current classes I am taking and they have told me payment can be done in this University. Knowing the right person or the right Doctor.

I never said it does not happen. I only shared my experience. To be straight forward, if it does happen I can assure you the students have gone far and wide to be able to find such an opportunity. Also, I speak of the dental program only. I cannot speculate as to what happens in the medical faculty or the other subdivisions. Please ask your friend what he actually lived through and share it with us.

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[Svart Aske]

With the actual growth and projected growth of the general population as well as the elderly population in California the California Dental Board is expecting a rise in demand in upcoming years. Also, with the increase in the quality of life more people are driven to demand more dental care as well as more specialized work. Therefore, the supply of newly trained dentists should reflect actual needs as well as future needs.

Pumping out more dentists does not address the access to care problem. The growth in the number of dentists and new graduates has outpaced the population growth in the US in the past 20 years. There are plenty of dentists but the reality is most of them don't want to work at low reimbursement clinics, and fewer patients have the financial means to pay for treatment. What has California Dental Board done to ensure that graduates from this dental school in Moldova are going to target their care towards underserved populations?

 

[Usmfzelensky]

I have joined the American dental program here at USMF and after 2 years I can happily say that it has been a great experience.

I feel the education that is provided to us of quality and I get plenty of hands on experience. It can be different from dental schools in the US but comparing with some friends that do attend dental schools at home the material is the same, and we do get more chances to shadow and actually practice on patients at early stages. Coming here for the first time it was a bit of a culture shock but I have learned to appreciate the particularities of life in Moldova and I love the people. I am impressed by the character people have in general. They are always willing to help and open to have foreigners come here and actually appreciate the fact we came here to study and contribute to their community.

 

[Big Time Hoosier]

With the actual growth and projected growth of the general population as well as the elderly population in California the California Dental Board is expecting a rise in demand in upcoming years. Also, with the increase in the quality of life more people are driven to demand more dental care as well as more specialized work. Therefore, the supply of newly trained dentists should reflect actual needs as well as future needs.

Yeah...according to the ADA, growth in the supply of dental providers exceeds the demand for care. And, this trend is expected to continue on into the foreseeable future. With all due respect, there really is no justification for accrediting this school based on “need.”

Big Hoss

 

[AppalachianDentalBoy]

With the actual growth and projected growth of the general population as well as the elderly population in California the California Dental Board is expecting a rise in demand in upcoming years. Also, with the increase in the quality of life more people are driven to demand more dental care as well as more specialized work. Therefore, the supply of newly trained dentists should reflect actual needs as well as future needs.

Do you honestly believe this? This is the same crap people who are pushing mid-levels claim. As if LA and San Francisco really need more dentists.

 

[josh_s]

Yes, I'm an American citizen. Completion of this school allows us to take the California boards exam and be licensed in California. You are not permitted to take other tests like the Western Regional Boards Exam so yes you will be limited to California at the start - however each states have different ways to become licensed, so it is possible to apply to other states through Licensure via Credential.
California for example has 4 different ways to become licensed. You can see them here.

Dental License Applicants - Dental Board of California

www.dbc.ca.gov

Wouldn't you be applying through 'Licensure by Portfolio Examination' not via 'Credential' ??

 

[ysoNaCly]

This law was passed today in CA - Bill Text - AB-1519 Healing arts.

The Dental Practice Act requires the board to approve foreign dental schools based on specified standards. Existing law requires a foreign dental school seeking approval to submit an application to the board, including, among other things, a finding that the educational program of the foreign dental school is equivalent to that of similar accredited institutions in the United States and adequately prepares its students for the practice of dentistry. Existing law requires the foreign dental school to submit a specified registration fee and to pay the board’s reasonable costs and expenses to conduct an approval survey. Existing law requires an approved institution to submit a renewal application every 7 years and to pay a specified renewal fee.

This bill, beginning January 1, 2020, would prohibit the board from accepting new applications for approval of foreign dental schools and would instead require foreign dental schools seeking approval to complete the international consultative and accreditation process with the Commission on Dental Accreditation of the American Dental Association (CODA) or a comparable accrediting body approved by the board. The bill would require previously approved foreign dental schools to complete the CODA accreditation by January 1, 2024, to remain approved.

This is actually huge, I'm surprised no one is talking about it. It appears based on this new bill that these two schools (Mexico and Moldova) would require CODA accreditation by 2024 to remain approved by the Board of California. It seems very unlikely that CODA would accredit these programs. Then again, that one school in Saudi Arabia was just accredited so who knows?

 

[Combine33]

Every now and then I visit the Caribbean med threads for a laugh or two, never thought it would come our way. Never thought I'd say this: you're better off going to a private school than this joke. You people are diluting our profession, are scamming people who dont know better, and should be ashamed of yourselves. Shame on California for even allowing this to happen for 1 day. To the people who fall for this, you are not without blame. You were not good enough to get into an American school for a reason, dont weasel your way to "practice" next to me or anyone else for that matter. And if it turns out to be a dead end, you deserve it.

 

[Utdarsenal]

I attended the Mexican international program and am a bit familiar with the Moldova program (I know a couple of the students there). I’ve been practicing in the states for a few years already and have to say i’m extremely glad I jumped at the opportunity rather than studying nationally. I wish you best of luck in your journey in Moldova. It will pay off (literally).
I’ve worked as an associate at a couple of different offices and people are surprised at how clinically competent we are (speaking on behalf of most of my colleagues who are also now working). Foreign schools are more liberal when it comes to what cases you’re permitted to tackle and more difficult cases are thrown your way. There are less “we should send this to the specialist” discussions, which can have its pro’s and con’s but will help give you more clinical confidence. Fellow students were doing full mouth rehabs (under prosthodontist guidance), some had 15+ molar root canals under their belts, etc. If I were you, I’d try pushing as hard as possible to do as much difficult treatment as you can while at school.

 

[ysoNaCly]

Why would it be unlikely?

Well as far as I know CODA accreditation is a very lengthy and expensive process. I am also aware that school in Mexico applied for accreditation once before and was denied last year and chose not to appeal. Also from what I gather the Moldova program is leagues behind the Mexican program which has been approved by the CDA since the early 2000s so I highly doubt they would get approval.

Here is the ADA's public notice about the application denial. https://www.ada.org/~/media/CODA/Files/Denied_Universidad_de_la_Salle_Mar2019_Redacted.pdf?la=en

 

[fit2]

Dang there are sooo many on this thread who are so dang skeptical. Kinda sad. I’m from Romania realy close to moldova and my cousin is a dentist in Romania whose did perio and now doing ortho while working in a peds clinic. I know a little bit about the medical and dental training there.
As it pertains to the work you guys (and me I’ve been in US 9 yrs) it’s a lot of grind. In Europe you finish high school and you go to grad school. Because of how the laws are with practicing in US with a foreign diploma you guys are right. This seems to be a way to get around that and maybe that’s not fair
As it pertains to skill I think it’s stupid to think you can’t be good or better than at other school. Especially since we’re taking dental field. This profession is about what you can do and I’ve seen amazing dentists here and in Europe/ Romania a third world country that many would scoff at. Yes you have to get your own patients which sucks but the academic training is not that bad. I mean would you rather have to blindly memorize slides or an entire book where you actually understand a lot more?
I dunno I guess it just baffles me people belittle the school cause of where it is and they uphold some of these schools so much in US. I go to a great school and know people that go to great school (Ivy’s some night d school names) and there is so much BS in d school in US. Likeif I’m honest 30-40% of what I do on a daily basis is BS and wasted time. If these people let me study all this **** on my own I would be done with academics in less than a year then we could really do dentistry for 3 years. I guess what I’m trying to say is US schools are not the pinnacle of dentistry and there are lots of schools in other countries that probs my better...now as it pertains to licensing and all that other BS yeah it makes US the only viable ones and I also agree it’s a little weird/unfair for some people to get around that.
(Lol someone complaining about the work they put into the DAT...like 6-8 weeks of studying. Not that impressive or hard of a test especially looking at it while you’re in d school. The real struggle is the monotonous grind and the herd mentality. Can’t wait to be in clinic to get a break and have more my own schedule)

 

[nucha]

Can we apply this year for Moldova or they done with IDP program?

 

[FutureDoc2001]

Eecently I found out that even through the school in Leon, Mexico is approved to have accreditation till 2026, where they would have to go through the special process to accredit their school for another 7 years, now there is a new law that was recently passed at the begging of 2020. A part of it states:

This bill, beginning January 1, 2020, would prohibit the board from accepting new applications for approval of foreign dental schools and would instead require foreign dental schools seeking approval to complete the international consultative and accreditation process with the Commission on Dental Accreditation of the American Dental Association (CODA) or a comparable accrediting body approved by the board. The bill would require previously approved foreign dental schools to complete the CODA accreditation by January 1, 2024, to remain approved.

The source: Bill Text - AB-1519 Healing arts.

This means that regardless of when their CDA approval is due, they have to get approval by the CODA by 2024, if they want to continue to have their accreditation. Mexico tried to get CODA approval in 2018, when there was no law that required them to have it, and they failed it, but still passed the CDA.

Anyhow, if the same thing happens and they do not get approval from the CODA, what does this mean for the students who may be half way through their 4.5 year program? Will they be able to finish the program, pass the boards, and become a dentist in CA still as their CDA accreditation will expire in 2026? Or will the students that may be a year, or even a semester away from finishing that 4.5 year program, be told that their time and money spent the last couple of years are now invalidated?

 

[JohanGo8]

Could someone give me information about the 2years international dental program ? I would like to know how is the study program and If this program really will start in January 202. thanks

 

[JohanGo8]

Yeah I have the same question . Apparentaly the program will be start in January 2021 according to the web site ,but now I don’t know due to the situation of corona virus it will really start in that date .

 

[JohanGo8]

Hello,
I am currently a student at the California accredited dental school in Moldova, Nicolae Testemiţanu State University of Medicine and Pharmacy.

I remember when I was looking for dental schools I couldn't find much about it online, so for anyone out there who wants to know more about this school, ask away. I will give you the unfiltered truth.

Their website can be found here: Moldova university | Dental School of the Moldova State University of Medicine and Pharmacy “Nicolae Testemiţanu” ( | Universitatea de Stat de Medicină și Farmacie "Nicolae Testimițeanu" din Republica Moldova <-- Romanian & official school website)

I really appreciate If I could contact with you ,I would like information about the 2 year IDP program in Moldova . Thanks

 

[Saleem]

Hello,
I am currently a student at the California accredited dental school in Moldova, Nicolae Testemiţanu State University of Medicine and Pharmacy.

I remember when I was looking for dental schools I couldn't find much about it online, so for anyone out there who wants to know more about this school, ask away. I will give you the unfiltered truth.

Their website can be found here: Moldova university | Dental School of the Moldova State University of Medicine and Pharmacy “Nicolae Testemiţanu” ( | Universitatea de Stat de Medicină și Farmacie "Nicolae Testimițeanu" din Republica Moldova <-- Romanian & official school website)

hey how did everything go for you? i am considering this program!

 

[JohanGo8]

Please, if you want me to reply you, answer my questions, as well.
Thank you.

Hi Yulia , did you apply for the IDP program in Moldova? I need information about that .

 

[FutureDoctor2005]

Hello,



I came on here because there is not enough current information available about what USMF in Moldova is really like. I am taking the time to write this post, because I want to prevent prospective students from making a decision to enroll at USMF, without having a real perspective on what it is like.



First of all, I would like to say to anyone that is researching this school and considering applying, please note that any positive information you find is from students trying to lie their way from the truth or that graduated many years ago, or faculty. The school has undergone many changes and the new program that began is a nightmare. They changed the curriculum and have made it near impossible for students.



USMF is a sinking ship. The administration is composed of individuals that are not qualified to run a lemonade stand, yet, they are entrusted with using our money. The Dental program is completely unorganized and comprised of a culture that assumes that all the students are stupid and incapable. From the dean down to the faculty, the culture is abusive and counterproductive to students.



Everything involved with USMF is a fight. Whether its classes, seeking information about changes, etc., the school makes EVERYTHING a nightmare. They will not give you information and they make critical changes to their curriculum mid semester with no regard for students.



I could spend hours going on about how twisted and disgusting this institution is, but I will just cut to the chase about why USMF is not a feasible option for studying dental.



They create schedules that keep the students in class for hours on end. Although this may seem normal, being in class with a completely incompetent professor that does not teach every day, is not ideal for studying. Numerous students have tried to explain this to the administration, but their response is "you are just lazy and not managing your time". Mind you, the geniuses designing this schedule, are not physicians, nor do they have any clue about what really studying medicine and passing is about. Even the good students that kill themselves studying, are struggling to prepare for exams, because they are forced into attending classes that are pointless at best, and following insane schedules.



USMF is a trap and the school is aware of it. Once you pay 25,000 to study there, you are at their mercy and they know it!! Those “ in charge” of us have raised the tuition every year but if you see the school and the dental clinics it becomes quite aware that the money isn’t being placed Into the school but instead going straight into their pockets, how can the school justify this?!!