Mountains - Game Thread

[potentialsheltervet]

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I can't. I pushed PSV D1 last game. Zenge is a good enough wolf to be willing to push a packmate. Especially when they are being widely village read.

You would classify me as being widely village read?

 

[holdthemayo]

Have you ever played with wolf!shorty?

Have you? Genuine question.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Have you? Genuine question.

No. This is only my second game with shorty, and last one I knew her affiliation.

 

[holdthemayo]

No. This is only my second game with shorty, and last one I knew her affiliation.

Did you disagree with Vis's comment then, or were you just trying to gauge it's reliability?

 

[Truenamer]

I'm finding it really frustrating trying to get good reads on people when at any given time, almost 30% of the roster is participating to the absolute bare minimum.

Preach

 

[potentialsheltervet]

@Crayola227 What was it you were saying last game about your wolf game being given away by your interactions with packmates? You tend to go after them very intensely?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Did you disagree with Vis's comment then, or were you just trying to gauge it's reliability?

The latter

 

[holdthemayo]

Keeping in mind my limited experience, this defense feels genuine so I am not suspicious of dolphin. Perhaps she is just great at acting but I believe her.

Even this is hedgy.

I may have missed it, but have you given a flat out honest read yet?

 

[Crayola227]

That’s it. Again, because for YOU to do that to ME was really unusual if V/V and I’m V.

But sunny, I really wasn't trying to do anything to you. Honestly.

There was a question mark attached to a lot of what I was saying. I'm trying my best to think through the game with very limited time and knowledge about anything. I haven't read pages and pages.

Anyway, I asked the question and I'm content there wasn't much to my idea "maybe sunny NK's Paws because she suspected a PR." I mean, in hindsight this is very, very stupid. I wasn't trying.to get anyone to fall for a tinfoil that stupid. I really was asking the question. .I wasn't sure there were any PRs this game. I was spitballing why the odd NK choice and talking theory,.one reason for odd choices are suspected PRs, and then you look for anyone who might have been fishing. But we established that was all bunk. So I'm not saying you did that. It was something I thought about and asked the class...I was wrong. Just seems a weird thing to wolf read me on when you're right, I don't try to get you yeeted over BS. And I never was this game either. Sorry about the dumb questions guys.

 

[Crayola227]

You know what?
Unyeet sunny
Yeet Cray

Well this seems very reactionary

 

[Truenamer]

No, but then perhaps they should also not expect to know how I normally sound? Logic holds both ways.

My apologies for assuming that most people are not hostile by default. 😕

 

[holdthemayo]

Can someone give me a condensed history of Stagg? Because @supershorty talked about last game having Stagg-type bussing but I don't know who Stagg is.

Class act, would do anything for a friend

 

[Crayola227]

Just overall game solving effort feels genuine.

I don’t agree with everything she’s said, but on the whole, I get the impression she’s making a genuine effort at game solving.

Who is this about again?

 

[holdthemayo]

I feel good about true and dolphin being villagers. I know some people are suspicious of dolphin so maybe I'm misreading there but I don't get bad vibes from either of them.

Not your sister?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Well this seems very reactionary

Nah, I just really dislike your logic leading up to your yeet of me.

 

[supershorty]

Who is this about again?

That was replying to me asking him about PSV.

 

[Crayola227]

And how do you feel about Zenge and mayo?

Village reading Zenge, wolfy side of neutral on mayo.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Not your sister?

She mentioned me earlier-- this was in response to me asking whether she had any village reads besides me.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 3 Yeet Tally
Cray (2) - Vis, PSV
sunshine (1) - True
True (1) - sunshine
dolphin (2) - Zenge, shorty
PSV (1) - Cray

7/11
@Crayola227 and @dolphin106258 are in the lead!
Missing: @genny @speechy_keen @holdthemayo @dolphin106258
yeet close in ~2 hours

 

[holdthemayo]

Yes - I didn't interact with her much at all in that game before I had to sub out, and I don't remember how she reacted to people wolf reading her in that game. I could go look now though, but I wanted the opinion of someone who's more confident reading her.

I would have to go back and look. I honestly don't remember.

 

[holdthemayo]

She mentioned me earlier-- this was in response to me asking whether she had any village reads besides me.

She has fingers. Let her type.

 

[Zenge142]

Who is this about again?

PSV

 

[Crayola227]

I’m seeing like a true, cray, PSV pack emerging.


Although where the heck has dolph been?

Lol, I think you need to re eval your pack

 

[speechy_keen]

Explain your reasoning here please.

Perhaps it would make more sense to be suspicious of people sounding not aggressive at all but since I'm not used to this type of game where everyone is arguing the whole time, I automatically dislike those that are more forward and aggressive with their posts. I think maybe also the posts that are really wordy draw my attention. That being said, I'm currently most suspicious of shorty, cray, and sunshine.

shorty because of the forwardness right off the bat from day 1. PSV tells me this is normal but she also encouraged me to just share my thoughts, so I am.

cray because her comments have kind of felt more like deflections. I guess that's the best way I can explain it.

sunshine because her comments feel a little too defensive. Like maybe she's a wolf and is frustrated she's being suspected early on?

I've been holding off on saying who I suspect because I don't want to annoy anyone or hurt anyone's feelings IRL.

 

[Truenamer]

That's my reason for dolphin. For true, I think it's because all the posts I've seen from him have been pretty non-confrontational and he seems, for lack of a better term, nice. I'm more suspicious of people who are a little more aggressive in their posts. I'm going to make a separate posts explaining who to answer shorty's question!

I have tried to imitate my village niceness in my wolf games (though it didn't work very well). But that doesn't mean that it couldn't in the future! Some wolves are extremely nice, I sat in Dubz's fuzzy pocket for like six days just a few games ago.

 

[Crayola227]

Should note for the noobs that Chaos wasn't a wolf in Bioshock, but I have personal experience with asking the thread noobish questions that were also asked in wolf chat, which is why I won't give village credit for it 😉

Yeah I frequently have told noob wolves, that's a great question for village lol

 

[speechy_keen]

Even this is hedgy.

I may have missed it, but have you given a flat out honest read yet?

I posted one a couple days ago I think

 

[holdthemayo]

You would classify me as being widely village read?

You've been pretty solidly in the village bloc.

There's been one clear voice of reason, but it was drowned out.

The most beautiful coo
Language devine
Not heard to be true
Lost in gull's "mine!"

 

[speechy_keen]

I have tried to imitate my village niceness in my wolf games (though it didn't work very well). But that doesn't mean that it couldn't in the future! Some wolves are extremely nice, I sat in Dubz's fuzzy pocket for like six days just a few games ago.

Good to know. Perhaps I will keep a closer eye on you.

 

[holdthemayo]

I posted one a couple days ago I think

Do you have an updated one? A lot has happened since then.

 

[Truenamer]

You wouldn't know because you didn't play it, but Dubz and true both died early in BoWWling and bonded in deadchat. Then later on in StardeWW Dubz wound up being a wolf and true felt betrayed. So my teasing there was more that, if true were wolfing, he'd keep Dubz alive as long as she was village reading him. He wouldn't kill her N2.
Also, the fact that you would vote sunny but you dislike my play so much that you don't want to vote with me is making me seriously scratch my head.
And you don't trust zenge and shorty that much, but you trust them enough to trust shorty's read of me?

I want to clear the air that I definitely didn't feel betrayed, I was so impressed by her gameplay (especially given how quickly her packmate died) and had a really good time even though I majorly screwed up that game for village.

 

[speechy_keen]

Do you have an updated one? A lot has happened since then.

I shall make one now. I must say, before PSV signed me up for this game, I did not expect the time commitment it would be. No offense y'all, but this feels like homework 😆

 

[supershorty]

You wouldn't know because you didn't play it, but Dubz and true both died early in BoWWling and bonded in deadchat. Then later on in StardeWW Dubz wound up being a wolf and true felt betrayed. So my teasing there was more that, if true were wolfing, he'd keep Dubz alive as long as she was village reading him. He wouldn't kill her N2.
Also, the fact that you would vote sunny but you dislike my play so much that you don't want to vote with me is making me seriously scratch my head.
And you don't trust zenge and shorty that much, but you trust them enough to trust shorty's read of me?

What are you referring to here?

 

[Truenamer]

I shall make one now. I must say, before PSV signed me up for this game, I did not expect the time commitment it would be. No offense y'all, but this feels like homework 😆

I probably shouldn't tell you that this has been an unusually quiet game 😅

But, it is a heck of a lot easier when you actually have a feel for the people you're playing with and don't have to try to remember who everyone is every time you read a post.

 

[holdthemayo]

I probably shouldn't tell you that this has been an unusually quiet game 😅

But, it is a heck of a lot easier when you actually have a feel for the people you're playing with and don't have to try to remember who everyone is every time you read a post.

This may turn out to be one of the shortest games of the year. I'm thankful for it because of RL stuff, but the 100+ page epics are the ones we talk about years later.

 

[Crayola227]

I agree with this but I feel more strongly about sunny and I don't think cray and sunny are w/w.

Would like to hear where you are now with this analysis.

 

[supershorty]

I'm looking back at England now and it's reminding me that the wolfiest thing sunny said (IMO) that whole game was that she didn't automatically wolf read people who sussed her, because I didn't feel that was an accurate representation of her play, and that's where I'm really hung up with this game.

I do feel like she's been more laid back and less abrasive than I'd expect from village!sunny this game, but I hate to think that's AI and don't want to consider it part of my read.

 

[speechy_keen]

New reads list in no particular order

Could be Village
true
PSV
dolphin

Not sure
genny
mayo
vis
zenge

Could be Goon
shorty
cray
sunshine

 

[potentialsheltervet]

What are you referring to here?

In one of her posts about me Cray said she could vote with you and zenge but she didn't feel good enough about you to do that.

 

[Crayola227]

Okay, but I can't just be like "well, wolves had a rough go last game, better not take that game into consideration in future games because they were having a bad time of it."

Do you see what I'm saying here? Like it or not, it's part of your meta, and it's the only experience I have playing with you. I can't just pretend it didn't happen.

Before anyone feels too bad, I don't clear so called non busters of bussing ever anyway. Because anyone can do it any time. So don't avoid bussing for your meta and future village games. Play each game as well as you can to win. That's it.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Would like to hear where you are now with this analysis.

Wavering. I could very easily see you or sunny being scum. Going back and forth on who I feel worse about.

 

[Viscernable]

I didn't say there were only two. WIFOM is usually not helpful, but the two I'm thinking of are the two most likely.

Cray’s already posted two I think are more likely I don’t think it’s impossible shorty’s a wolf or not being killed just because champs practice, but this sort of thing (why is x person still alive?) happens on the reg, and it’s more often one of those in combo with “so many villagers the pack wants to kill, so little time”

 

[Crayola227]

In one of her posts about me Cray said she could vote with you and zenge but she didn't feel good enough about you to do that.

More zenge than shorty. I have an atrocious record of reading zenge.

 

[holdthemayo]

New reads list in no particular order

Could be Village
true
PSV
dolphin

Not sure
genny
mayo
vis
zenge

Could be Goon
shorty
cray
sunshine

Shorty is your top wolf read?

 

[holdthemayo]

I'm looking back at England now and it's reminding me that the wolfiest thing sunny said (IMO) that whole game was that she didn't automatically wolf read people who sussed her, because I didn't feel that was an accurate representation of her play, and that's where I'm really hung up with this game.

I do feel like she's been more laid back and less abrasive than I'd expect from village!sunny this game, but I hate to think that's AI and don't want to consider it part of my read.

I agree with this. The main thing holding my vote from Sunny today is that both Zenge and I have wolf read her, and her reads list put us village. I feel like past Sunny is very retaliatory.

I'm trying to decide if that is past village sunny or past all sunny.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Before anyone feels too bad, I don't clear so called non busters of bussing ever anyway. Because anyone can do it any time. So don't avoid bussing for your meta and future village games. Play each game as well as you can to win. That's it.

Except that it's hecking frustrating to think you might catch a wolf and still not be village read because "that one time..."
Like, I get it. I'm sketchy. But if catching wolves will never clear me again then I don't know how the heck I can ever avoid getting misyoten.

 

[supershorty]

I agree with this. The main thing holding my vote from Sunny today is that both Zenge and I have wolf read her, and her reads list put us village. I feel like past Sunny is very retaliatory.

I'm trying to decide if that is past village sunny or past all sunny.

Yes, and genny voted her, and is only neutral.

I'm skimming through England to see how wolf!sunny reacted because the village!sunny I played with in the past was VERY retaliatory with reads.

 

[supershorty]

Yes, and genny voted her, and is only neutral.

I'm skimming through England to see how wolf!sunny reacted because the village!sunny I played with in the past was VERY retaliatory with reads.

To be clear, by "only neutral" here, I mean that past village!sunny would likely have wolf read her.

 

[Truenamer]

Shorty is your top wolf read?

People usually post top to bottom, good to bad. So it seems like shorty is her least wolfy wolf-read.

 

[holdthemayo]

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Yes, and genny voted her, and is only neutral.

I'm skimming through England to see how wolf!sunny reacted because the village!sunny I played with in the past was VERY retaliatory with reads.

Except genny voted her twice. In the past when genny has stuck on a vote multiple days, she is usually village and usually has a reason for it (like True last game).