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[cfdavid]

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As a non-trad aged pre-med (31) that just found out where I'll be this fall (Wayne State), I wanted to say how inspiring this thread is. And I'm grateful to have been accepted to a great school in my neck of the woods.

I have a buddy that's a practicing anesthesiologist. He was very encouraging in his advice and enthusiasm for his career (FYI, he practices in the anesth care team model). I had a chance to shadow an MDA and AA at Case Western (I considered their AA program, but decided to go all the way), and thought it was very cool.

Anyway, I'm super excited to be embarking on this journey, and get inspired when reading this thread. It's unique as I sometimes frequent other specialty threads as well. But, this is by far the most dynamic and helpful thread in the professional forums.

Everyone says that you can't say what you'll decide to pursue until MS3. I understand that logic. But, anesthesiology seems like it would be right up my alley.

I'd like to know if any of you guys/gals went into med school with a huge interest in anesth and ended up pursuing it. Or, did most of you discover your interests during MS3 and 4?

Anyway, keep up the great posts!

 

[VolatileAgent]

please avoid using "MDA", which is a made-up term by the AANA and job recruiters, to describe anesthesiologists/peri-operative medicine specialists. we are doctors first, foremost, and before anything else. as such, our training, job description, and level of responsibility to the patient is both ethically and legally distinct from and superior to that of mid-level anesthesia providers.

so, there no need to invoke or perpetuate a term that attempts only to create an artificial and politically-motivated distinction from other MDs (or DOs). when fully stripped for examination this term is nothing more than a subtle way for special interests to parse our medical training and try to create an artificial parity with other anesthesia providers.

good luck in med school.

 

[cfdavid]

please avoid using "MDA", which is a made-up term by the AANA and job recruiters, to describe anesthesiologists/peri-operative medicine specialists. we are doctors first, foremost, and before anything else. as such, our training, job description, and level of responsibility to the patient is both ethically and legally distinct from and superior to that of mid-level anesthesia providers.

so, there no need to invoke or perpetuate a term that attempts only to create an artificial and politically-motivated distinction from other MDs (or DOs). when fully stripped for examination this term is nothing more than a subtle way for special interests to parse our medical training and try to create an artificial parity with other anesthesia providers.

good luck in med school.

I appreciate your concern. Trust me, I'm a big believer in advocating on behalf of one's profession. And I'm in the court of the MD/DO's.

Realistically however, it seems that there are some pragmatic reasons for writing MDA. First, it gets old always writing anesthesiologist as a means of distinguishing the doctors from the other mid-level providers. Also, I think it's difficult to confuse the fact that an "MDA" is a doctor by the mere prefix of the abreviation.

Nevertheless, I see your point entirely. It's important to keep the full scope of the anesth doc in mind as physicians first and foremost.

On a similar note, perhaps you'd be a good person to input your thoughts on the impact of CRNA's practicing independently (I know this has been hashed out in other posts, but perhaps not this specific scenario).

I know many of the docs on this board are very comfortable with the whole CRNA thing etc. Guys with experience that practice in the team model. Pros.

I wonder, however, about a situation in which a rural hospital can't find an anesthesiologist. Then, they fill the position with a CRNA. Now, say an MD/DO moves into the area. My concern is that why would the hospital hire the MD/DO if, in fact, they have been getting by with the CRNA? Obviously, it would add cost. But, pehaps the scope of services etc. would increase by bringing in the doc? Otherwise, it seems that, in fact, an independently practicing CRNA would negatively impact the market for the MD/DO's.

On the other hand, those pros on this board (JetProp and MilMD) don't seem too concerned with these things (from what I've read), and I respect them enough to think that there must be a reason for that. Any input??

Keep the tempers/emotions to a minimum. I'm not trying to be inflammatory. It's just something I've thought about.

 

[Trisomy13]

First, it gets old always writing anesthesiologist as a means of distinguishing the doctors from the other mid-level providers.

So just write "MD".

Also, I think it's difficult to confuse the fact that an "MDA" is a doctor by the mere prefix of the abreviation.

Again, which is more confusing... "MDA", which is a disputed term, or just plain old "MD"? Why muddy the waters unnecessarily?

 

[cfdavid]

So just write "MD".





Again, which is more confusing... "MDA", which is a disputed term, or just plain old "MD"? Why muddy the waters unnecessarily?

easy enough.

 

[ear-ache]

Jesuss. Let's cut the new guy some slack. He's obviously not trying to stir the pot. Welcome cfdavid.

PS - Is that Hilary with Billy in you avitar? If that is Hilary, I don't remember her looking so hot!

 

[cdql]

I think it's one of the Bush daughters!

 

[cfdavid]

Jesuss. Let's cut the new guy some slack. He's obviously not trying to stir the pot. Welcome cfdavid.

PS - Is that Hilary with Billy in you avitar? If that is Hilary, I don't remember her looking so hot!

lol. Thanks for the welcome ear-ache.

It's Jenna Bush.