MWU- AZ vs OHSU?

[bigEK]

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Any Ideas what program is better?

 

[avb7010]

If you're out of state for OHSU I believe you get in state tuition after the first year which would probably make it cheaper. Midwestern- AZ seemed really clinically oriented and incentive driven where if you do enough procedures they'll give you time off from the clinics as well. I also thought having the summer off after D1 year and taking part 1 of the boards during that summer was great. However, if I remember correctly Midwestern- AZ also increases the tuition a certain amount each year which is a downside.

 

[jeffity]

It's all about the dollars. Check in that residency thing.

Tuition increase is not unique to MWU, sadly. Pretty much every school has an annual increase.

 

[Miley Cyrus.]

you will not get instate at OHSU. OHSU w/o health ins and w/o living expenses is $290k. MWU-AZ w/o living expenses (which will be cheaper than OHSU) is $330k (with tuition increases factored in).

 

[ToothbrushBuddy]

I know plenty of excellent dentists of all ages from OHSU. I think they do a great job of training their dentists clinically and they all have the best chair-side manner of any dentists I have met. Plus, OHSU is building a beautiful new facility that you could use.

 

[tbond5]

If you're looking for clinical Midwestern hands down. Price then ohsu.

 

[kdrp]

If you're looking for clinical Midwestern hands down. Price then ohsu.

Aren't they both clinically oriented schools? I can't imagine MWU's clinic being worth an additional $40k (~70-80k total after loan repayment).

 

[kingenamel]

MW-AZ was nice but I also agree with the poster who mentioned there is a big incentive system about getting certain things done to get time off. Reminded me more of a business than a dental school but Im sure people there are happy and the students I spoke with were pretty relaxed and easy going. You might want to get in touch with the current students and ask them questions about their experiences so far to gauge if the schools the right fit for your needs.

 

[tbond5]

Aren't they both clinically oriented schools? I can't imagine MWU's clinic being worth an additional $40k (~70-80k total after loan repayment).

Oh I def agree that its not worth the 40k but it def has its advantages as does ohsu.

 

[jeffity]

I think y'all are misinterpreting this 'incentive' thing in the clinic at MWU. If OHSU and MWU were equal in cost to attend, using this as a deciding factor would be ridiculous. Kind of like someone on here a couple years ago who was turned off because he didn't see enough recycling receptacles around campus. I'm not making that up. It's a school. It's not a sweatshop with faculty pushing fast, sloppy work and over treating to make a buck with students complying to earn a day off. In fact, if anyone actually thinks any school out there is banking off their student clinic, you'd be surprised how little that percentage is of their operating funds. I'll dig later, but I've got some numbers including private vs. public in that regard and other sources of funding (tuition, alumni, state money, etc.)

The whole point is for you to be conscious of your time and being productive with it. Same goes for materials. How much are you wasting? Use what you need and take all the time you need, but this stuff is all tracked for your own good so you understand how that converts in the real world. Sure, we all have good hearts and would treat everyone for free if we could right? Sure. But I don't care if you're dropping $400K or $2K, the day will come when you will want to be aware of your production if you want to keep food on the table. It's not like there's any punishment if you don't hit some magic number or something. They're not training to have money/time-off on your mind first and foremost. It's information and a gold-star sticker if you do well. And as far as I understand, it's not easy to earn time off. We're hear to learn dentistry. Not to just focus on production. Sure, it's no secret that they want students to be as prepared as possible for private practice upon graduating. But unethical corporate-mindedness in students or faculty would never fly here.

 

[Miley Cyrus.]

Oh I def agree that its not worth the 40k but it def has its advantages as does ohsu.

Keep in mind though that Portland is going to have a higher cost of living than MWU-AZ. So that 40k difference might be a little less. If the OP is financing his education entirely through loans, then I would agree 40k is not worth it. But if the OP is able to pay a significant amount from their own pocket with some loans, or is doing HPSP, then I'd give MWU a serious look.

 

[tbond5]

Keep in mind though that Portland is going to have a higher cost of living than MWU-AZ. So that 40k difference might be a little less. If the OP is financing his education entirely through loans, then I would agree 40k is not worth it. But if the OP is able to pay a significant amount from their own pocket with some loans, or is doing HPSP, then I'd give MWU a serious look.

I'm doing hpsp and I chose MWU-AZ over 3 other schools if this helps the OP.

 

[ktran17]

I don't know about you but Oregon's weather > AZ.

 

[kingenamel]

I prefer az weather over Oregon, but that's because I'm not a fan of rain 🙂

 

[Auburn221]

Which school did you decide to attend?