Will Walk Rope for Sandwich
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- Oct 22, 2013
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I remember this thread, good times.
That one was hilariousHe posted on SDN when this happened. Obviously told us this was all a big misunderstanding and his mean school was kicking him out for no reason.
So basically OP is screwed, Axes is severely misinformed, and both of them should never become doctors. Gotcha.
"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel." - Maya Angelou. The single greatest lesson I ever learned during undergrad.
I hope not. I have several disciplinary actions from high school. Meh, didn't keep me out of college
The real problem, IMO, is that the natural assumption when you see an IA like this one (ie blatant dishonesty over a relative triviality) is not that the person made a one time mistake, but rather that they got caught one time out of many occurrences of dishonesty.
The follow-up explanation of sleep deprivation as root cause only furthers this assumption.
second^Is that thread still up?!?! Sounds like it would be an interesting read.
This looks like it could be it:^Is that thread still up?!?! Sounds like it would be an interesting read.
At my school, IAs appear on the transcript. My friend had one, and it was in an obscure spot, but it was there.I was wondering the same thing. I don't really know how IAs work, but I also don't see why such things would appear on a transcript of all places.
This looks like it could be it:
My GPA is over 3.9, with a spread of academic awards, volunteering and two first co-authorships with professors in the works. I'm pre-MCAT, but let's assume I do well. Unfortunately, my university convicted me of forgery of a faculty member's signature.
To be frank, I don't remember doing it. The form was recorded as submitted mid-finals week, and I was deliriously sleepy the whole week. I woke up one morning to find a charge in my inbox that confused and frightened me.
You and me both. I got suspended a week for having fire-crackers in my backpack. Was going to light them off in the school parking lot( when only my buddies would be around) but an admin caught me and my HS career almost ended.
Alcohol violations are certainly not worse than deliberate forgery. Shoplifting is also an entirely different category of offense, though of course if it was an actual criminal charge that raises the bar a bit.OP you messed up, but it isn't as bad as some of the things I've seen. I knew one kid who got 2 underage drinking violations AND got caught stealing from Meijer once by the police. He was a minority, but he still got in to medical school. Do not know how and I don't know any more details, but maybe there is hope for you somewhere. Good luck
It's a good thing the OP doesn't remember forging a signature. Basically, if you don't remember doing stuff, it doesn't count!
You also get bonus points if you're so focused on academic excellence that you push yourself into sleep deprivation and get "deliriously sleepy" - this is evidence of your work ethic! This also helps you maintain just enough critical thinking skills to perform well on tests and research (getting the grades and publications you need to succeed), while not maintaining quite enough judgment/capacity to be held responsible for occasional lapses in ethical decision making and good citizenship. Admissions committees will totally get this. Hey, you're an average, hard-working joe, totally reliable when it comes to all that important stuff that requires critical thinking and good judgment (grades, research, publications, volunteering). It's just that, sometimes, you push yourself too hard, and your brain will go on autopilot and do silly things (like forging signatures) and debbie downers are gonna be all "that's unethical or immoral!" - but it's ok, because you won't remember doing any of those things (wink) and committee members will be all, "hey, guys, who hasn't been there, right? right?"
Also, your reaction of being confused and frightened by receiving the (surprise) charges in your inbox is evidence that they caught you completely off-guard. The admissions committees will definitely want to hear about this - it confirms that you are a vulnerable victim of sleep deprivation in the pursuit of excellence and strengthens an argument that you should get a pass for (totally random and completely understandable) lapses in judgment.
On a side note, bonus points if you describe your complete lack of concern for having full-on periodic black-outs utilizing the phrase "la belle indifference."
This looks like it could be it: