narcotics diversion

[Lisochka]

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Hey guys, looks like there is a problem. I need your advice.
I am a student and its my last rotation. It is a re-do rotation, so I need to pass it, since its a make up.
So, looks like the pharmacy where I am at is missing a bottle of vicodin.
There were couple of others, and I have been counting lortabs a lot. Also, we lost an rx of lortab.
I am just really worried that they may think its me.
What is the best way of dealing with things like that? I did not take it. And I want to look clean in their eyes...

 

[Pharmacy Kid]

I wouldn't worry unless they have hard evidence you did it (security camera saw you). Since you say you didn't do it, I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[BenJammin]

I don't understand...you didn't do it so why are you worried? There is no proof that you did it so why are you worried? There's not a camera on earth that shows you taking a bottle of drugs so why are you worried?

Why are you worried?

 

[Lisochka]

I don't understand...you didn't do it so why are you worried? There is no proof that you did it so why are you worried? There's not a camera on earth that shows you taking a bottle of drugs so why are you worried?

Why are you worried?

There are a lot of things in life that are not fair. I have experienced a fair share of those, even though it was narcotics unrelated. There is never hundred percent guarantee in anything.
The question is not why someone is worried, but how to make sure I present as clear as I only can?

 

[All4MyDaughter]

There are a lot of things in life that are not fair. I have experienced a fair share of those, even though it was narcotics unrelated. There is never hundred percent guarantee in anything.
The question is not why someone is worried, but how to make sure I present as clear as I only can?

Just keep doing whatever you are doing, assuming you aren't doing anything wrong. If you try to say or do anything to make yourself look "innocent," it will backfire. Just be normal.

 

[smercer]

Whatever you do..just do not get some kind or injury that requires you take some pain killers for a bit...

Also unless you have given them some reason to distrust you, then I do not see why they would instantly blame you. Clearly in any pharmacy there is going to be more then one or two people touching narcotics. If they are stupid enough to not have a camera monitoring the area the narcotics are handled in, then they are just asking to have the crap stolen from em.

If they question you..well I think you have a hell of a lot more to lose then some pharmacist who has been working a while. I mean why would you jeopardize you entire future + be stuck with all the SL debt for a bottle of vicodin.


This reminds me of the time they found an empty ampule of Fentanyl in the restroom of our pharmacy. They shut that bitch down and every had to go up stairs to piss in a cup for the lab. Everyone passed...so no fun there watching someone get busted.

 

[Momus]

No way to avoid getting caught stealing in the pharmacy... at least not that I know of.

Even without a camera or hard evidence/witness involved... Loss prevention normally look at who works, and who doesn't and count the drugs when someone leave pharmacy. If there is a discrepancy when a certain someone leaves enough times, he is busted.

 

[Sparda29]

Whatever you do..just do not get some kind or injury that requires you take some pain killers for a bit...

Also unless you have given them some reason to distrust you, then I do not see why they would instantly blame you. Clearly in any pharmacy there is going to be more then one or two people touching narcotics. If they are stupid enough to not have a camera monitoring the area the narcotics are handled in, then they are just asking to have the crap stolen from em.

If they question you..well I think you have a hell of a lot more to lose then some pharmacist who has been working a while. I mean why would you jeopardize you entire future + be stuck with all the SL debt for a bottle of vicodin.


This reminds me of the time they found an empty ampule of Fentanyl in the restroom of our pharmacy. They shut that bitch down and every had to go up stairs to piss in a cup for the lab. Everyone passed...so no fun there watching someone get busted.

WTF? They can't make you pee in a cup.

 

[owlegrad]

WTF? They can't make you pee in a cup.

It can be a condition of employment that you agree to be tested.

 

[rxlea]

It can be a condition of employment that you agree to be tested.

This. One place I worked did randoms.

 

[rph3664]

This reminds me of the time they found an empty ampule of Fentanyl in the restroom of our pharmacy. They shut that bitch down and every had to go up stairs to piss in a cup for the lab. Everyone passed...so no fun there watching someone get busted.

Did they ever find out what happened to that fentanyl?

Many years ago, I worked at a hospital where I was putting something in a patient's med drawer (at the time, they were unlocked and in the hallway by the nurse's station) and found a large vial of morphine with the cap removed but the stopper wasn't punctured. The patient did not have morphine ordered, and it wasn't a size or manufacturer that we carried anyway. We never found out where it came from.

One of my classmates died from OD'ing on stolen drugs. Not a good thing, to say the least. 🙁

As for the OP, if you had nothing to do with it, don't worry about it.

 

[smercer]

Did they ever find out what happened to that fentanyl?

Many years ago, I worked at a hospital where I was putting something in a patient's med drawer (at the time, they were unlocked and in the hallway by the nurse's station) and found a large vial of morphine with the cap removed but the stopper wasn't punctured. The patient did not have morphine ordered, and it wasn't a size or manufacturer that we carried anyway. We never found out where it came from.

One of my classmates died from OD'ing on stolen drugs. Not a good thing, to say the least. 🙁

As for the OP, if you had nothing to do with it, don't worry about it.

Since no one tested positive they did not make any statements about it. I assumed they had an idea of who could of done it and did not want to give anything away if they thought something was going on.
The only plausible rumor that I ever heard about it was that someone might have left the empty ampule in their scrub pocket after making a Fentanyl drip or dilution for Nicu...then when changing realized it and just trashed it thinking nothing of it.
You never know though, I have heard stories from the pharmacists of people they worked with skimming the waste after making drips/dilutions and getting busted.

 

[BidingMyTime]

Well, I don't think the OP is out of line to be concerned. Assuming there haven't been previous problems with drugs, its natural for a workplace to immediately suspect the new person.

OP, I would follow the advice to just keep doing, as you've been doing. Protesting too much or getting overly defensive will make you look guilty, so I would not bring it up at all. If you are questioned about it, just state the truth, you didn't steal any drugs and leave it at that. As others have said, I think its unlikely you will be confronted without your employer having evidence.

 

[BenJammin]

WTF? They can't make you pee in a cup.

This ain't Canada, big boy.

 

[pharm B]

WTF? They can't make you pee in a cup.

It can be a condition of employment that you agree to be tested.

This. One place I worked did randoms.

Exactly. An acquaintance was fired after employers got whiff of the fact that he smoked marijuana on the weekends. They "randomly selected" him for a urinalysis. It was the only "random" one he'd seen in a few years of being there.

 

[Sparda29]

Exactly. An acquaintance was fired after employers got whiff of the fact that he smoked marijuana on the weekends. They "randomly selected" him for a urinalysis. It was the only "random" one he'd seen in a few years of being there.

Now would that still happen if the state you work in has marijuana decriminalized?

 

[genesis09]

Now would that still happen if the state you work in has marijuana decriminalized?

It doesn't matter. Marijuana is still a C-1 drug. It is perfectly legal to fire someone for testing positive. If someone tests positive for a C-1 and you don't do anything about it, your DEA license is at stake.

 

[BenJammin]

It doesn't matter. Marijuana is still a C-1 drug. It is perfectly legal to fire someone for testing positive. If someone tests positive for a C-1 and you don't do anything about it, your DEA license is at stake.

I'm glad someone finally recognizes the problem with marijuana. People around me don't understand why raids occur in California if weed is legal there and the correct answer is: it's federally banned, thus it is illegal everywhere.

 

[BidingMyTime]

Now would that still happen if the state you work in has marijuana decriminalized?

Yes, there was a case last year where a Wal-Mart employee with a prescription for medical marijuana was fired after testing positive. The most restrictive law always triumps, whether federal or state.