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So I am planning on attending dental school in the fall and I wanted to know what the national guard offers dental students. Do they pay for all 4 years of tuition? Do they pay for room and board? Do they provide the dental student with money during dental school? How do you have to repay the national guard after you graduate?

Please do not use any acronyms to answer my questions because I am unfamiliar with military affiliated words. Thanks.
 
So I am planning on attending dental school in the fall and I wanted to know what the national guard offers dental students. Do they pay for all 4 years of tuition? Do they pay for room and board? Do they provide the dental student with money during dental school? How do you have to repay the national guard after you graduate?

Please do not use any acronyms to answer my questions because I am unfamiliar with military affiliated words. Thanks.

This may be way more information than you wanted/needed, but I am bored, so here goes:

The Army National Guard offers a program called the Medical/Dental Student Stipend Program (MDSSP), which is an incentive based program targeted to medical and dental students. It is not a scholarship that will pay for your dental school. This program will offer medical and dental students a monthly stipend of $2,060 for up to 4 years. While you are in school, you will be commissioned as a 2nd Lieutenant (O-1) in the Medical Service Corps, and will have to attend military training drills (one weekend every month and two weeks every year), for which you will be paid. You will earn about $366 for each weekend drill, and ~$1500 for the yearly two week training period. Time spent in this program counts toward longevity pay increases and reserve retirement. After you graduate, you will be superseded to Captain (O-3), recommissioned in the Dental Corps, and will incur a one year service obligation for every six months (or part thereof) that you received the stipend. This obligation is still part time (one weekend every month, 2 weeks every year). You cannot be deployed during dental school, but after you graduate you will be subject to deployment. Currently the Army National Guard dentists deploy for 90 days boots-in-sand, with perhaps an additional 1-1.5 months for pre-deployment training. It is also worth noting that one or two states give free tuition to its National Guard members attending their state dental/medical schools (New Jersey comes to mind). It may have changed since I was researching it a couple of years ago, but it is worth looking into.

If you were looking for a military program that would completely cover your dental school expenses (with the exception of room and board), you will probably need to look into one that comes with an active duty commitment. The Armed Forces Health Professions Scholarship Program (AFHPSP or HPSP for short) is offered by the Army, Navy, and Air Force. This is a scholarship that will pay your dental school tuition, fees, and books for up to 4 years. You are commissioned as a Reserve officer in the pay grade of O-1 and paid a stipend of $2060/month. The Army and Navy are also offering a $20,000 signing bonus. During the summers, you will be placed on active duty for 45 days to do training/rotations at Navy facilities. During this time you will be paid as an active duty O-1 with <2 years. Time spent in school does not count toward longevity pay increases or retirement. You cannot be deployed during dental school. After you graduate, you will be promoted straight to O-3 and will have to serve 1 year of active duty for every year spent in HPSP, with a minimum of 3 years.

Another program of interest is the Health Services Collegiate Program (HSCP) offered by the Navy. HSCP is not a scholarship, so it doesn't pay your tuition. While you are in school, HSCP places you on active duty as an enlisted member in the pay grade E-6 with all of the pay and benefits that comes with it (which includes free health and dental insurance) for up to 4 years. Your pay will be partially based on the location of your school, but I would say that the average would be ~$45,000/year. Unlike HPSP, your time spent in school DOES count toward pay raises and retirement. Though you are technically active duty, you cannot be deployed during dental school. After you graduate, you will be commissioned as an officer in the pay grade of O-3 and must serve 1 year of active duty for every year spent in HSCP, with a minimum of 3 years. Since HSCP doesn't pay tuition, it is a better choice if you are attending a less expensive state dental school.

Hope this helps, and sorry if I confused you.
 
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Thanks a lot i appreciate this. Good luck in your studies.
 
Hi,

Do you know if the national guard dental students will be able to compete for residency positions available to active duty or HPSP students?

Thanks.
 
Hi,

Do you know if the national guard dental students will be able to compete for residency positions available to active duty or HPSP students?

Thanks.

Military residencies come with an active duty service commitment. The National Guard is not going to want to give you all that money for MDSSP, and then let you out of your commitment to go active duty. That would be a waste of their money. I suppose there is nothing to stop you from applying for a military residency, but no commander is going to sign off on the paperwork to release you from your National Guard commitment. Since the National Guard is only part time service (1 weekend every month and 2 weeks every year), you should be able to attend a civilian residency program. Inter-state transfers in the Guard are no big deal, so you can attend a residency program in another state if you wish.
 
Thanks a lot i appreciate this. Good luck in your studies.

I think the guard has done away with the Student Recruiter Program.

The Guard has 2 post-school programs- a loan repayment and a flat out bonus. The loan repayment caps at $50,000 and is paid at $20k, $20k, then $10k/year. The dental bonus is a flat $25,000/year. Both can be signed at 1,2, or 3 year contracts. Signing a 1 year contract may be in your best interest if you are worried about a long term commitment. I'm currently in the 2nd year of a 3 year/$75k contract.

The details of this bonus has changed this past year, I'm not sure what it is though...
 
I think the guard has done away with the Student Recruiter Program.

The Guard has 2 post-school programs- a loan repayment and a flat out bonus. The loan repayment caps at $50,000 and is paid at $20k, $20k, then $10k/year. The dental bonus is a flat $25,000/year. Both can be signed at 1,2, or 3 year contracts. Signing a 1 year contract may be in your best interest if you are worried about a long term commitment. I'm currently in the 2nd year of a 3 year/$75k contract.

The details of this bonus has changed this past year, I'm not sure what it is though...

The HPLRP loan repayment program is now up to $120,000 total at $40k per year for 3 years.
 
The HPLRP loan repayment program is now up to $120,000 total at $40k per year for 3 years.

Do you have to sign a 3 year commitment for the HPLRP loan repayment prgram AND a 3 year commitment to receive the Medical Proffessional Officer Special pay of $25,000/year for dentists? Does one 3 year commitment qualify you to receive both the loan repayment money as well as the special pay bonus? Or do you sign two 3 year commitments totalling 6 years??
 
Do you have to sign a 3 year commitment for the HPLRP loan repayment prgram AND a 3 year commitment to receive the Medical Proffessional Officer Special pay of $25,000/year for dentists? Does one 3 year commitment qualify you to receive both the loan repayment money as well as the special pay bonus? Or do you sign two 3 year commitments totalling 6 years??

Each of those incentives will come with its own commitment that is paid back consecutively, not concurrently. If you took both, you would have to pay back 6 years. Take one at a time so you don't have to wait 6 years for another retention incentive.
 
Each of those incentives will come with its own commitment that is paid back consecutively, not concurrently. If you took both, you would have to pay back 6 years. Take one at a time so you don't have to wait 6 years for another retention incentive.

you can't take both at the same time, so you have no choice but to take them one at a time. you wouldn't have to wait for another retention bonus anyways, as both bonuses are paid yearly, not in one lump sum in advance. the HPLRP is $40k per year for up to 3 years, the other is $25k per year for up to 3 years. both can be taken for 1, 2, or 3 years. the amount per year is the same no matter how many years you sign up for.
 
I was just recently told by my National Guard special branch recruiter that HPLRP was bumped up to 240k (40k per year for up to 6 years). I am signing next week and while in dental school, starting 1st year in the fall, you get as a 2nd LT $375 a month drill pay with $4500 a year in tuition assistance. You drill as a dental assitant, so you get some experience along the way. I have to go to BOLC next July for 26 days and then eligible for GI Bill benefits. It seems like a very good deal and have had other military members look at the contract and said it was legit. I sign an 8 year commitment 4 while in dental school and 4 out. Loan repayment starts when you graduate dental school. I have the option of signing for an additional 2 years (10 in total) for the extra 80,000 in loan repayment and total of 240k. Let me know if you have any questions.
 
Does the Air National Guard have something similar to the MDSSP?

Thanks.
 
If you take either the yearly contract w/ bonus, or the extended contract w/ loan repayment, do either of these(or both) increase one's chances of deploying?

Also, is this federal money from the DoD budget, or are these state allocations?
 
If you take either the yearly contract w/ bonus, or the extended contract w/ loan repayment, do either of these(or both) increase one's chances of deploying?

Also, is this federal money from the DoD budget, or are these state allocations?

If you are worried about deploying - don't even join.

No, taking bonuses does not increase your chances of deploying.
 
The HPLRP loan repayment program is now up to $120,000 total at $40k per year for 3 years


I tried to contact a NG recruiter but having no success. I have a few questions that I hope answer, it would be greatly appreciated.

1. It seems that the HPLRP program pays more than MDSSP for the same length of commitment. So other than for cash flow, it would be better to hold off and join after dental school if one is looking to commit 4-6 years?

2. On the same note, if someone might be interested in a Army AEGD, it's best not to join the NG because it closes that option?

3. From reading the previous posts, deployment is ~4 months, and can occur every 18-24 months? Therefore in a 4-6 year commitment one is expected to deploy 3 times.

4. Just to confirm, deployment cannot occur if you do a residency.

5. I know the law states that NG members cannot be discriminated against for employment due to deployment. But it's tough to hire an associate that will be gone 4 months every couple years. Does anyone has such experience?

Thanks.
 
The HPLRP loan repayment program is now up to $120,000 total at $40k per year for 3 years


I tried to contact a NG recruiter but having no success. I have a few questions that I hope answer, it would be greatly appreciated.

1. It seems that the HPLRP program pays more than MDSSP for the same length of commitment. So other than for cash flow, it would be better to hold off and join after dental school if one is looking to commit 4-6 years?

2. On the same note, if someone might be interested in a Army AEGD, it's best not to join the NG because it closes that option?

3. From reading the previous posts, deployment is ~4 months, and can occur every 18-24 months? Therefore in a 4-6 year commitment one is expected to deploy 3 times.

4. Just to confirm, deployment cannot occur if you do a residency.

5. I know the law states that NG members cannot be discriminated against for employment due to deployment. But it's tough to hire an associate that will be gone 4 months every couple years. Does anyone has such experience?

Thanks.

Since I am not NG I will only answer what I can.

2) Any Army specialty program is only for active duty dental officers. Reserve and National Guard are not eligible to apply.

4) If you are doing a civilian residency you are not protected from deploying. It would be smart if they don't pull you - but that is between you and your Commander.

If you are active duty they can not deploy you while you are in a residency program.
 
I'm a D1 in the WI ANG. You can be deployed every so often but those deployed (at least in my unit) occur voluntarily and infrequently. Also it 90 days in theater maybe it would be 4 months with all the pre and post deployment activity. I think the national guard is a pretty sweet deal for dental school students personally.
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