NBDE-2 Score thread and Experience.....

[MitPat]

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Hi Guys,
Why don't we start NBDE-2 score thread and the experience associated with the exam. Please feel free to jolt down your total part-2 preperation schedule and books used for the success , and share with everybody.
Thanks.👍

 

[Cataloni82]

i dont think there is a curve...cause four of my friends passed with scores ranged from 316 - 327 the first time they took it...

so its this whole crap is bull ****

I think you are right !!

 

[drny]

1st (287):73
2nd (300):73
3rd (327): 74

I am appealing to be able to take the test sooner than the 12 months scheduled after your third try...does anyone know if it works? anyone with experience? let me know..
thanks

 

[Cataloni82]

1st (287):73
2nd (300):73
3rd (327): 74

I am appealing to be able to take the test sooner than the 12 months scheduled after your third try...does anyone know if it works? anyone with experience? let me know..
thanks

When did you take your last one ?!?!?!?

 

[Star Jasmine]

Thanks Odontologia

Appreciate your help!🙂

good luck
sj

I had already posted a couple of times that one of the best resources for pt mgt is mosbys. Read this section before the exam, trust me, it will be very helpful! Decks in this subject was VERY poor in my experience.

There were many tx planning ?s for me both the first and second day.. and this was kind of frustrating because there were tx planning ?s regarding prost, operative, pedo, ortho etc. So in each section u study, pay particular attn to the subject of tx planning, especially in the prost. section (removable vs. fixed) and OS (implants). As single mom says, a good idea is to spend good time reviewing path pictures from wherever you can find them. You will be thankful you did. Good luck!

 

[drny]

I took the last one Sept 1st, 2nd 2009...

When did you take your last one ?!?!?!?

 

[narihari]

I have a feeling that scores in their (JC computer get voided/cleared) after 12 months or so..AFTER ur last attempt.....thats Y they tell us and everyone to wait 1 yr to start a "NEW CYCLE" of 3 attempts...I mite be wrong...let me know..thx

 

[DENDOC]

I took the last one Sept 1st, 2nd 2009...

I really feel sad about your situation....but i also took on sep 1 ,2....my second chance and i passed with 313....got 75. i have failed to understand how it goes.................

 

[Tinadent]

HI DENDOC,
Congratulations on your success! Would you please tell what was your score on day 2.
Thanks🙂

 

[Star Jasmine]

Congrats on your passing part 2 EXAM!! I'm sure it is well deserved!
happy for you!!🙂


sj👍

I really feel sad about your situation....but i also took on sep 1 ,2....my second chance and i passed with 313....got 75. i have failed to understand how it goes.................

 

[drny]

Dont feel bad dendoc!! their system is obviously whacked! they say "things happen for a reason"...so im just waiting for that reason! lol

I really feel sad about your situation....but i also took on sep 1 ,2....my second chance and i passed with 313....got 75. i have failed to understand how it goes.................

 

[dentistgirl08]

Thanks for the informative post!👍

I'm also preparing for NDBE part 2, planning on taking it soon
looking for a serious study partner to discuss question papers and ace this test, kindly send me a PM if anyone is interested to study important topics together and discuss papers over the phone..

Thanks

I posted the below message about a year ago and I hope you guys benefit from this and all pass the part II

Nobody should be taking part II unless........

1. Nobody should dare to take NBDE part II unless you've read Mosbys 5 times, Dental decks 3 times, released exams (93 and 03) 5 times (make sure to memorize all the answers), open questions posted by SDN members (there are several threads on this board) twice as you'll see a lot of similar or same questions, Oral pathology books with pictures at least once a day for 3 months.

2. Keep in mind that only 30 percent of the 2nd timers pass Part 2 as ADA won't give you any curve for the 2nd timers. That's why most 2nd time examees end up getting 74.

3. Don't take the exam just to see what it's like. If you don't pass first time, your chance of passing will decrease substantially. In other words, don't take the exam unless you're ready to ace the exam.

4. Don't listen to those liars who claim to have passed the exam with only one week of studying.

5. Read this post again, go to the library and start studying.

Everybody loves "Single Mom DDS"

 

[DENDOC]

HI DENDOC,
Congratulations on your success! Would you please tell what was your score on day 2.
Thanks🙂

second day score ...45/100

 

[c761516]

I really feel sad about your situation....but i also took on sep 1 ,2....my second chance and i passed with 313....got 75. i have failed to understand how it goes.................

But i got with 337
and day2 56/100
my score is 73?? why?? but it was my 4th times...😡

 

[Confused Kid]

so sorry to here....when did you take it? a 337 for a 73 is wrong....how can that be? i feel really bad for you...people pass with 320s .....ada is messed up, i hate them...

im taking it soon again and getting scared cause everyone who posts say that once they fail its hard to pass...

 

[c761516]

so sorry to here....when did you take it? a 337 for a 73 is wrong....how can that be? i feel really bad for you...people pass with 320s .....ada is messed up, i hate them...

im taking it soon again and getting scared cause everyone who posts say that once they fail its hard to pass...

my tested day was sept 21, 22, 2009
should i do the audit??

 

[odontologia]

my tested day was sept 21, 22, 2009
should i do the audit??

I would not advice w/a 73, but you can try. Below is some information that comes from the ADA NBDE candidate guide relating to the grading of the test. What I have heard is that questions are graded on level of difficulty, so that's why someone w/a 320 can pass w/a 75 and someone with a 327 can fail w/a 73.
"The National Board examinations are criterion-referenced, i.e., candidates are not graded on a curve but against a pre-determined standard. Examination Regulations are also intended to provide all candidates with an equivalent opportunity to gain National Board certification; no candidate should have unfair advantage over others."

 

[DENDOC]

Even I have heard about the difficult and the easy questions.....also guys try out a book by Norman .K.wood and dental secrets by Stephen donnel(just google it).I had few questions from Wood.

 

[DENDOC]

But i got with 337
and day2 56/100
my score is 73?? why?? but it was my 4th times...😡

How are your scores compared to national mean....just trying to figure out...what happened because 337 is a huge number......
First time I took I had 294 and 64 on second day but 4-5 points below avg mean almost in all subjects.
This time I have 1-2 points below but in some subjects I have 4-5 points above avg mean....its cofnuising

 

[dentistgirl08]

Part 2: Congratulations..!! on passing the test

Thank you for posting your scores: It helps many of us preparing for the exam, how long did you prepare for your test and what study materials did you use ? Kindly post.
These were your scores that you posted:
1ST attempt: day 1: 294/500 day 2 : 64/100
2nd attempt: Day 1 337/ 500 day 2 45/ 100??

Looking at your scores, feels that you had case based q that were tough ..??😕
Can you tell us anything more regarding your exam and your preparation methods..

Good luck🙂👍

How are your scores compared to national mean....just trying to figure out...what happened because 337 is a huge number......
First time I took I had 294 and 64 on second day but 4-5 points below avg mean almost in all subjects.
This time I have 1-2 points below but in some subjects I have 4-5 points above avg mean....its cofnuising

 

[dentistgirl08]

Hi Wanted to check with you : regarding the Norman Wood book :
Is this the book?

Even I have heard about the difficult and the easy questions.....also guys try out a book by Norman .K.wood and dental secrets by Stephen donnel(just google it).I had few questions from Wood.

 

[DENDOC]

yes it is the book....try to borrow it from some dental library ....

 

[DENDOC]

Here are the details..............
How much time to study....I would say it varies...I took 3-4 months...with breaks.A friend of mine just took two months and she passed.
How many times did you study decks and ..........?I would say doesnt matter how many times ,what matters is how well you study it...A friend of mine studied decks just once and gave the exam and passed.Another friend took 3-4 months and passed.she studied decks and mosby and released Q papers.I flunked first time after studing for 3-4 months...same material .....so does not matter.
Second time I decided to change my way...did some research...and studied..Dental secrets,NORman K wood,decks,mosby,Released Q papers...(J,K,L).Just revised decks and mosby 2 times,The other books just read them once.
Some of the topics I did differently....
Implants.....read a chapter from schillingburg
oral pathology text book...just look at pictures....trust me helps a lot.
In pedo...child behaviour management ....read the topic in detail...
in perio treatment planning...and flaps.....
Pharma .....decks are absolutely sufficient.....
patient management...mosby...I dont know if anything else is there.
So i would say...please guys dont try and follow somebody...about how many times and how many months but see the material ,take advice and make a way of your own......because every brain is different.
After taking it twice....75 is not a great score because i barely managed to pass...there are people out there who have scores really in 80"s...in part 2.But after reading this thread I know even i was like others on the other side of the fence....and anybody"s detailed post would give me mental relaxation ....so i decided to write it.
Please try and help each other....Any more Questipns....always welcome...
ALL THE BEST TO YOU. ALL.......

 

[odontologia]

Here are the details..............
How much time to study....I would say it varies...I took 3-4 months...with breaks.A friend of mine just took two months and she passed.
How many times did you study decks and ..........?I would say doesnt matter how many times ,what matters is how well you study it...A friend of mine studied decks just once and gave the exam and passed.Another friend took 3-4 months and passed.she studied decks and mosby and released Q papers.I flunked first time after studing for 3-4 months...same material .....so does not matter.
Second time I decided to change my way...did some research...and studied..Dental secrets,NORman K wood,decks,mosby,Released Q papers...(J,K,L).Just revised decks and mosby 2 times,The other books just read them once.
Some of the topics I did differently....
Implants.....read a chapter from schillingburg
oral pathology text book...just look at pictures....trust me helps a lot.
In pedo...child behaviour management ....read the topic in detail...
in perio treatment planning...and flaps.....
Pharma .....decks are absolutely sufficient.....
patient management...mosby...I dont know if anything else is there.
So i would say...please guys dont try and follow somebody...about how many times and how many months but see the material ,take advice and make a way of your own......because every brain is different.
After taking it twice....75 is not a great score because i barely managed to pass...there are people out there who have scores really in 80"s...in part 2.But after reading this thread I know even i was like others on the other side of the fence....and anybody"s detailed post would give me mental relaxation ....so i decided to write it.
Please try and help each other....Any more Questipns....always welcome...
ALL THE BEST TO YOU. ALL.......

You give great advice, thanks!! I agree w/you regarding the diff study tools used particularly in pharm and pt mgt. I wanted to ask which book you used for path, you're right that the pics help a lot. Also I agree that you that 75 is all you need.. I would be delighted w/a 75, that's for sure!! 🙂 Again, congrats!!!

 

[DENDOC]

This is the book...if u dont have it...just use google to see images for things.

 

[odontologia]

This is the book...if u dont have it...just use google to see images for things.

thanks!

 

[Mstoothy]

1st (287):73
2nd (300):73
3rd (327): 74

I am appealing to be able to take the test sooner than the 12 months scheduled after your third try...does anyone know if it works? anyone with experience? let me know..
thanks

I did appealed to ADA if i can take my fourth exam earlier than 12month but they rejected me flat out 🙁 I dont' think they like to bend their rules... I dont' know if you tried to appeal already, but i would tell others to just save their money and don't appeal. They rejected my previous appeals a few times...😡

 

[MrToothy]

Agreed...the ADA lacks compassion and does not advance issues important to dentists. That is why I am not a member of the ADA anymore. It seems they are more interested in getting our money and wasting it on lobbying for things that will hurt our profession.

As for the one year punishment wait...all that does is hurt the candidate. You can't work as a dentist, you can't get any financial assistance, you are forced to put your loans on economic hardship deferment, you are no longer immersed in the dental world. How does it help? What bright mind in the ADA came up with this idea?

Unfortunately, I don't think direct litigation will work. They have far more resources and can keep someone in court for a very long time. The only way we can fight them is to not support them. If dentists abandon the ADA and move to the AGD or another organization, then maybe that will wake them up to actually work for the dentist rather than against.

Hang in there everyone! For now, you have to jump through the ADA's hoops to get licensed, but eventually you will get there.

 

[Angelchico]

My materials are Decks, Old exams and Tuft's Phamaco review which is really helpful. But its not enough for implants and Patient management.

Hi sweetpannacotta,

Do you still have your tufts Pharmacology reviewer?
If you do, I am interested to buy if you are willing to sell it.
Also, if you do have some extra notes on implants and the latest exam released after 2004. Thanks!

 

[ObliqueRidge]

Everyone seems so depressing on sdn about part II. Here is some hope....

Studied decks 2.5 times...First aid 1 time...no old tests

score 1st time: 80 374/500 72/100
I thought I failed after taking it like everyone else thought...so go figure.

 

[IMPACT]

Hi All,
Is the day 2 of part II in a testlet form (would mean that there are less than 100 different cases but one case might have several sub-questions/testlets as in clinical vignette section of part -I) OR are there 100 different cases as individual questions ?
Thank you.

 

[blumnday99]

Hi All,
Is the day 2 of part II in a testlet form (would mean that there are less than 100 different cases but one case might have several sub-questions/testlets as in clinical vignette section of part -I) OR are there 100 different cases as individual questions ?
Thank you.

Testlets....there are only 4 or so cases.

 

[ddsgurl]

Everyone seems so depressing on sdn about part II. Here is some hope....

Studied decks 2.5 times...First aid 1 time...no old tests

score 1st time: 80 374/500 72/100
I thought I failed after taking it like everyone else thought...so go figure.

Very good ObliqueRidge! Congratulations 👍

 

[Star Jasmine]

you aced the test!! that's what matters...congrats!!!
way to go!!
good luck and thanks for posting...👍🙂

Everyone seems so depressing on sdn about part II. Here is some hope....

Studied decks 2.5 times...First aid 1 time...no old tests

score 1st time: 80 374/500 72/100
I thought I failed after taking it like everyone else thought...so go figure.

 

[sonrisa28]

you aced the test!! that's what matters...congrats!!!
way to go!!
good luck and thanks for posting...👍🙂

Has anybody taken the test recently? could you post your experience?
Thanks =)

 

[Cataloni82]

Has anybody taken the test recently? could you post your experience?
Thanks =)

Hope someone can share some info !! 🙂

 

[Cold Front]

I posted the below message about a year ago and I hope you guys benefit from this and all pass the part II

Nobody should be taking part II unless........

1. Nobody should dare to take NBDE part II unless you've read Mosbys 5 times, Dental decks 3 times, released exams (93 and 03) 5 times (make sure to memorize all the answers), open questions posted by SDN members (there are several threads on this board) twice as you'll see a lot of similar or same questions, Oral pathology books with pictures at least once a day for 3 months.

2. Keep in mind that only 30 percent of the 2nd timers pass Part 2 as ADA won't give you any curve for the 2nd timers. That's why most 2nd time examees end up getting 74.

3. Don't take the exam just to see what it's like. If you don't pass first time, your chance of passing will decrease substantially. In other words, don't take the exam unless you're ready to ace the exam.

4. Don't listen to those liars who claim to have passed the exam with only one week of studying.

5. Read this post again, go to the library and start studying.

Everybody loves "Single Mom DDS"

What's your source on "only 30% of 2nd timers passing part 2"? or are you speculating?

Here is the most recent official ADA report on Part 2 passing rates.

If you did your DMD/DDS in the US, and didn't pass the test on your 2nd attempt, then you are in the 3-4% of people who need to re-take it the 3rd time. Beyond this, it's very rare - like less than 1% of the total. So I don't know why people on this thread are so quick on suing the ADA. Yes, there are flaws in the scoring system, but this is based on the version of the exam the candidate takes, i.e. a score of 325 could be a pass on one test, but a fail on another test. This is something that JCNDE tells candidates before they take the test, but most people don't bother looking it up until they run into issues.

Good luck and stay positive.

 

[Star Jasmine]

Thanks for posting!!

Very encouraging to know that :Yes we all can do this ...👍

Great post!!

sj

What's your source on "only 30% of 2nd timers passing part 2"? or are you speculating?

Here is the most recent official ADA report on Part 2 passing rates.

If you did your DMD/DDS in the US, and didn't pass the test on your 2nd attempt, then you are in the 3-4% of people who need to re-take it the 3rd time. Beyond this, it's very rare - like less than 1% of the total. So I don't know why people on this thread are so quick on suing the ADA. Yes, there are flaws in the scoring system, but this is based on the version of the exam the candidate takes, i.e. a score of 325 could be a pass on one test, but a fail on another test. This is something that JCNDE tells candidates before they take the test, but most people don't bother looking it up until they run into issues.

Good luck and stay positive.

 

[ClassActLawSuit]

Number of Question National Mean Correct Answer
1/2/2008 8/18/2009 Percentage Change 1/2/2008 8/18/2009 Percentage Change 1/2/2008 8/18/2009 Percentage Change Operative Dentistry 61 57 -7% 40 44.3 11% 32 44 38% Pharmacology 40 38 -5% 29.7 27.4 -8% 12 21 75% Prosthodontics 57 61 7% 36.8 42.8 16% 25 41 64% Oral Surgery/Pain Control 52 56 8% 33.4 37.4 12% 27 30 11% Orthodontics/ Pediatric Dentistry 73 71 -3% 49.9 53.8 8% 48 47 -2% Endodontics 40 36 -10% 31.5 28.7 -9% 22 26 18% Periodontics 58 62 7% 39 43.2 11% 24 43 79% Oral Pathology/ Radiology 56 56 0% 40.1 39.4 -2% 30 42 40% Patient Management 63 63 0% 46.2 43.1 -7% 32 36 13% Case Based Items 100 100 0% 60.9 69.8 15% 54 75 39% Total 600 600 407.5 429.9 5% 306 405 32%

Hi All,

You may see my 2 exam results for part 2. And, even, I answered 406 question right, I failed( 30% increase not enough to jump from 71 to 75???????)

I am planning to sue and would like to do as a class action law suit against ADA's shark attorneys. Anybody wants to join me or any suggestion, please, let me know....

I can climb every single mountain, as long as, somebody stops throwing rocks to my face!!!!!!!! ADA made me bleeding very badly....🙁

 

[c761516]

406 Q right?? amazing~ and you still not pass...??
the 1st day is 400 Q and the 2nd is 100 Q, total is 500 Q
are you sure that you didnt add the 2nd day correct item to the total item correct??
whats your correct item for the 1st day and 2nd day??

Number of Question National Mean Correct Answer
1/2/2008 8/18/2009 Percentage Change 1/2/2008 8/18/2009 Percentage Change 1/2/2008 8/18/2009 Percentage Change Operative Dentistry 61 57 -7% 40 44.3 11% 32 44 38% Pharmacology 40 38 -5% 29.7 27.4 -8% 12 21 75% Prosthodontics 57 61 7% 36.8 42.8 16% 25 41 64% Oral Surgery/Pain Control 52 56 8% 33.4 37.4 12% 27 30 11% Orthodontics/ Pediatric Dentistry 73 71 -3% 49.9 53.8 8% 48 47 -2% Endodontics 40 36 -10% 31.5 28.7 -9% 22 26 18% Periodontics 58 62 7% 39 43.2 11% 24 43 79% Oral Pathology/ Radiology 56 56 0% 40.1 39.4 -2% 30 42 40% Patient Management 63 63 0% 46.2 43.1 -7% 32 36 13% Case Based Items 100 100 0% 60.9 69.8 15% 54 75 39% Total 600 600 407.5 429.9 5% 306 405 32%

Hi All,

You may see my 2 exam results for part 2. And, even, I answered 406 question right, I failed( 30% increase not enough to jump from 71 to 75???????)

I am planning to sue and would like to do as a class action law suit against ADA's shark attorneys. Anybody wants to join me or any suggestion, please, let me know....

I can climb every single mountain, as long as, somebody stops throwing rocks to my face!!!!!!!! ADA made me bleeding very badly....🙁

 

[ClassActLawSuit]

Sorry, I upload one more time the exams' comparison....

 

[Confused Kid]

I just found out that I failed for the third time.

I got 336/500. 74%

ugh. So frustrating. Not sure what to do with my life and 200k of debt for the next year. So upset. I studied my ass off and not sure what else I couldve done.

 

[ClassActLawSuit]

Dear Confused Kid,

I totally feel you. Anger, mistrust, frustration, failure..... All mixed together plus my finances.

I hope you will have strength to deal with horrible NBDE people.........................

I just found out that I failed for the third time.

I got 336/500. 74%

ugh. So frustrating. Not sure what to do with my life and 200k of debt for the next year. So upset. I studied my ass off and not sure what else I couldve done.

 

[ClassActLawSuit]

I had problem to upload. sorry for confusion, all the tables are the same.....

Sorry, I upload one more time the exams' comparison....

 

[matchbox20]

i got 83 in nbde part I and having a gpa of 3.14.. iam having a masters in the field of conservative dentistry and endodontics.. do i stand a chance anywhere if i apply now.. What do u think about NYU..

 

[I will Survive]

Number of Question National Mean Correct Answer
1/2/2008 8/18/2009 Percentage Change 1/2/2008 8/18/2009 Percentage Change 1/2/2008 8/18/2009 Percentage Change Operative Dentistry 61 57 -7% 40 44.3 11% 32 44 38% Pharmacology 40 38 -5% 29.7 27.4 -8% 12 21 75% Prosthodontics 57 61 7% 36.8 42.8 16% 25 41 64% Oral Surgery/Pain Control 52 56 8% 33.4 37.4 12% 27 30 11% Orthodontics/ Pediatric Dentistry 73 71 -3% 49.9 53.8 8% 48 47 -2% Endodontics 40 36 -10% 31.5 28.7 -9% 22 26 18% Periodontics 58 62 7% 39 43.2 11% 24 43 79% Oral Pathology/ Radiology 56 56 0% 40.1 39.4 -2% 30 42 40% Patient Management 63 63 0% 46.2 43.1 -7% 32 36 13% Case Based Items 100 100 0% 60.9 69.8 15% 54 75 39% Total 600 600 407.5 429.9 5% 306 405 32%

Hi All,

You may see my 2 exam results for part 2. And, even, I answered 406 question right, I failed( 30% increase not enough to jump from 71 to 75???????)

I am planning to sue and would like to do as a class action law suit against ADA's shark attorneys. Anybody wants to join me or any suggestion, please, let me know....

I can climb every single mountain, as long as, somebody stops throwing rocks to my face!!!!!!!! ADA made me bleeding very badly....🙁

what was your standdard score...cos the numbers u have written r very confusing and r nto making sense....

 

[molars]

got my result.....finally 82........ filled in the new jersey application yesterday.....i hope this looks respectable to them. 🙁

i want to start preparing for part 2 , plz suggest which book to go thorugh ? and ur studying strategy plz

 

[Karpov]

I am studying my *** off got 71, 74, and (hopefully if pass this time), but I from what I'm seeing here no one seems to be posting about passing the 3rd time. It seems as if you need a solid 340 to pass regardless of what test you have; I have never seen that number fail the canidate. However the guy who got over 400 Q's right, should not have failed. That's over 80% raw score! If you can shine light on the matter plz give some feedback.😕

 

[odontologia]

I am studying my *** off got 71, 74, and (hopefully if pass this time), but I from what I'm seeing here no one seems to be posting about passing the 3rd time. It seems as if you need a solid 340 to pass regardless of what test you have; I have never seen that number fail the canidate. However the guy who got over 400 Q's right, should not have failed. That's over 80% raw score! If you can shine light on the matter plz give some feedback.😕

Who knows! This is pretty frustrating, I'm in the same boat! Good luck on ur third try though! 👍

 

[BENNY4567]

if anybody with 375/500 has failed this part2? i scored only 73 after so much hard work. wat should i study now?

 

[blumnday99]

if anybody with 375/500 has failed this part2? i scored only 73 after so much hard work. wat should i study now?

Just took it for the second time and passed. Scored a 73 the first time I took the exam....here's the score breakdown from the second exam....scored an 80 on this one.