I am only getting 50% right on ASDA and I only did half of the dental decks. My test is next week and it is $100 to reschedule...I can finish the decks and do at least 7 tests by then, but honestly at this point i don't know much of the material. Should this all be new to me? What percent should I be getting on ASDA to be able to pass the real thing? I took only 2 so far and got 50% on them... will I have enough preparation or should I resechule? Does the dental school do anything if you don't pass and who do the scores go to?
NBDE1 next week, please help...
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Hi,I did u complete doing decks once .and are u done with half during second revision .then u would be able to complete in a week .but if u are doing it for first time it surely takes a more than a week to complete them unless u are a fresh graduate with lots of knowledge in the subject .i feel u need to score 70 to 75% to be on safe side .i feel u get prepared well before giving exam .this is my mail I'd :aishniajay@ gmail.com .feel free to mail me .bye
Dont judge urself through ASDA....you might get repeats or not......if anything judge yourself by the material you have covered and how much you retain.......delaying is not a big thing but failing is....so i would suggest you to revise and be confident before you sit in the exam....complete the decks fully and then revise them once atleast before the exam and do ASDA side by side......u cannot get a perfect score on ASDA.....last time i checked the rescheduling fee was 25$......how did they increase it so much......there are no scores.....not given to you and not even to the university you apply by the national board......so dont worry.......many people like me dont clear it in the first go......m gonna try again soon.....jus go n give ur best shot......
Thank you for the reply! Rescheduling 5 or less days before the test is 100 i think, and wait so no one in the university can tell if you pass or fail? For me there are only certain subjects I'm good at but the entire biochem section I am not good at..my school starts right after my test and I won't be able to study for it in the semester, and the latest I can schedule it is 5 days into my december break so I really don't know when else to take it besides next week, the winter, or next year. Do you think its worth it to go in there and just try it out even if you aren't confident just to get your money's worth?
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I'm pretty sure your school will know who passes and fails. I don't know that they'll do anything. Probably not. They might frown a little because you brought down their first-time pass rate, but that's nothing. I think my school lets you go after three fails. They give us three months to take it, so that seems fair. If you fail, there is a breakdown of your scores with it. If you pass....it just says pass. I just wrapped up D1. There wasn't whole lot of material that was new. I guess our first year is focused on NBDE I, so they did a good job, I suppose. We didn't cover abdominal vasculature very well. That part was new'ish to me. I only did 200 cards. I hated them, so I stopped. I studied almost exclusively with old tests. Yes, I identified ~30 repeats after my test, but that's not the value of the old tests because you may not have many repeats. I can promise you'll have reworded questions though. It's understanding that material and knowing why answers are right and wrong. It's so similar and wording is on par. The decks have WAY too much info in them. Classmates were getting ~60% on old exams. And pretty much everyone walks out feeling defeated...but you see the national average...people obviously pass. Very few don't the first time.
Have you covered dental anatomy & occlusion much yet? That's the gold. You can rock 80+ of those questions and get 55-60/100 on other sections and pass. Dental material is so much more straightforward. Have you seen the 'Everything You Wanted to Know About The Shapes Of Teeth But Were Afraid To Ask' documents? That's a great summary of everything dental. I read that the morning of the test to review. If you're going to bother finishing decks, blast through them! Only really read bold words or look into stuff that you absolutely don't know. I was taking too long and it was too much info, so I stopped.
Also, if your timing is okay, I wouldn't take full tests at this point. If English is your first language, you should be okay for time. Rather, use your time to study over practicing at this point. Did you use Destroyer for the DAT? First Aid Q&A is like that, but the questions didn't seem on par. But dentalarticles.com/nbde/ is great. Multiple choice questions in all 4 categories, but it has explanations with the answers, kind of like the DAT. Also, gather some mnemonics. Those will get you through multiple choice questions...especially biochm if they ask what product comes after what in some sort of cycle. Like, what immediately precedes urea in the urea cycle.
Hey, thanks so much for your reply. I haven't seen the 'Everything You Wanted to Know About The Shapes Of Teeth But Were Afraid To Ask' documents, if you could direct me to where I can find those I would really appreciate it! I was actually looking for a good summary of all the material for that section, but couldn't find any. For the dental anatomy section I feel I am only ok at it, my strongest is anatomy. I thought it would be better but I got only 60% of the dental decks right for the dental anatomy section. I'm currently using the dentalarticles questions and they are great, I am learning a lot from each question and it is slowly bringing my confidence up. Do you know which released exams are on that website by any chance? I am now focusing on doing at least 100 decks and one practice test each day until the test. I am doing the later practice tests, so by the end I might have about 6 or so total plus the ones on dentalarticles, do you think this is enough?
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Jeffity, is this the document you are referring to? I've never used it myself, but a quick search only brought up 2 hits: your post and this page
http://dc312.4shared.com/doc/KjUh8hF4/preview.html
http://dc312.4shared.com/doc/KjUh8hF4/preview.html
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That looks right. Mine is an old scanned copy. This is cleaner and might have more diagrams added too.
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There's bound to be some random something or other that you've never heard of before no matter how much you study. This is the proposed breakdown. If you've got a system for occlusion, like using that picket fence sort of drawing, you can probably get almost all 30-something correct. Anatomy/morphology is just knowing as much detail about every tooth as possible and how they compare to each other (pre-molars are fun) and how primary compare to permanent. Overall, this is more straightforward than biochem or micro or something.
1.0. Tooth Morphology [43]
2.0. Pulp Cavity Morphology [5]
3.0. Calcification and Eruption [6]
4.0. Principles of Occlusion and Function [37]
5.0. Clinical ConsiderationsTooth Morphology and Anomalies [8]
6.0. Professional Ethics/Patient Management [1]
