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thanks for the replies! I have been toldby many people..residents, school officials etc there is no way program directors would find out. Eras lets you apply without sending usmle id...only comlex. I am not asking if this is the right/moral thing to do, just a question about the scores specifically
thank you desi for your advice, which was what I was looking for.
sylvanthus - Why wouldn't I try to hide it if it meant it was going to hurt my chances for an interview? I'm merely asking for advice, not asking for someone to state the obvious about the score... and if I did get banned from the match I don't think I would come back to this forum and whine and ask for sympathy! hehehe that is just ridiculous. Life is too short to be so mean and rude. You have no idea who I am or the circumstances around why I "did so poorly" on step 1.
anyways, thanks again for the advice everyone!
i think that u do have to report it and that rule came into being in the last couple of yrs (while i was in med school) - i think b4 that, do students could choose not to report usmle scores but now have no choice as everyone is saying. i'm not entirely sure but i do think that the programs can see that u took usmle even if u don't release the score and that'll just look like u're hiding sth and worse, get u banned from match, if u don't release. better to explain than to look like u're trying to pull a fast one. and the rest of your app would have to be stellar if md programs are going to go based on just grades/comlex (which they don't seem to like to do, they def prefer usmle > comlex).
many md programs might not require usmle (some do) but u might miss out on interviews anyway b/c they 1) either won't know u took it but i don't think this is true anymore as i stated or 2) won't have your score (and some programs won't rank you even if they interview u w/o the score).
Match 2011 was the last one where usmle scores were optional. For all of us who are applying this upcoming cycle, there is no choice of not reporting it. Failed, passed, or even killed the usmles makes no difference. Your score will be reported if you have taken that exam. W/e the circumstances are, we are now in the same boat as allopaths. If you take usmle step 2 after september 1st or if your score is reported after that date, I believe you have the option of not releasing that score to residency programs prior to interviews, but you have to at some point let the hospitals know of your score. From what I understand some hospitals may not even interview osteopaths w.o a usmle step 2 score.
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what about not reporting comlex for allopathic match? I posted a forum about it but nobody really knows. Obviously they will know I took it but do they even care if I have a USMLE score?
Hey Guys!
I just spoke to ERAS. They said they have NO requirement that a DO student/graduate has to release their USMLE transcripts to the allopathic programs. The statement was to say (in your application) that you took it. But, it is up to the PROGRAMS if they require you to submit the USMLE transcript to them. If they do require and ask you to, then you HAVE TO release the scores to them. But, ERAS says they have no set requirements.
If you need to, you can call them directly to confirm this.
NRMP also say they do not require a DO to release the USMLE transcript scores.
So, again, it is completely up to the residency programs if they require the scores.
If applying to both DO and MD programs with having taken both COMLEX and USMLE, does anyone know if you can prevent DO programs from seeing your USMLE score or knowing that you took it?
DO programs aren't going to care about your USMLE score whether you report it or not. The USMLE is not a requirement for DO programs. Small sample size, but the few DO PDs I talked to tend to worry about students who take USMLE. They wonder if they are applying DO as a backup. I am by no means saying all DO PDs are like that, but it's food for thought.
That's kindof been my interpretation of the climate. I think I did pretty well on both (240+, 600+) but the USMLE score for DO programs could really only work against me and likely isn't going to do anything in my favor so I would really prefer to not divulge the information if I don't have to
I don't know what specialty you are aiming for, but your USMLE stats are good enough for ACGME primary care, EM, Gas, and maybe rads. If you are looking for any of those specialties, you don't really need to apply DO... well maybe for rads...
I'm aiming for EM *fingers crossed*...I know there are a lot of good ACGME programs but there are a couple DO programs I wouldn't mind being at too.
Is EM that competitive? I thought those scores were necessary to get looked at for things like Derm, Ophtho etc meaning EM should be doable... im only a second year so i dont know that much though
Is EM that competitive? I thought those scores were necessary to get looked at for things like Derm, Ophtho etc meaning EM should be doable... im only a second year so i dont know that much though
How do they know we passed it? Are we allowed to participate in the allopathic match only if we've passed COMLEX Step 1? What about Step 2...how do they know we passed that?
What if you don't enter your USMLE ID #?Very helpful! Thank you for confirming this straight out of the horse's mouth.
I spoke to a 4th year on rotation with me after reading this thread and he said he didn't report it, and the closest he'd come to being asked about it was along the lines of "have you ever considered taking the USMLE?" He said he had considered it, and left it at that.
If this is really the case with NRMP/ERAS then I think I'll take my chances with not reporting it if things go south with my score.