need advise on being a biggest gunner during third year

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I will be starting third year pretty soon. Considering that it will be most important year in my life, I need some advise on being a biggest gunner possible.

So, please help me become a biggest gunner possible. 😀










PS - I am obviously joking....
 
premedgeek said:
I will be starting third year pretty soon. Considering that it will be most important year in my life, I need some advise on being a biggest gunner possible.

So, please help me become a biggest gunner possible. 😀

Suck up, kiss a$$, smooch, brown nose, bring in articles, don't sleep, and do all the nurses work. Then ace the shelf.

Have a good year!
 
Bring your residents coffee and donuts, buy them lunch without even asking, show up 30 minutes early, state an hour late, send your attending a bottle of wine for Christmas, come to work on your post-call day, round on the other students' patients, draw the labs yourself, call radiology or micro yourself and don't tell anyone the results until requested by the attending on rounds, when nothing's going on pull out the massive text such as Harrison's or Sabiston or whatever out and pretend you're reading it, overdress for oral exams, never wear scrubs when not in the OR, research a topic and then instigate the attending to start pimping everyone on that topic, find out key info on other students' patients and write a note on it or keep the information until rounds to tell the attending.
 
Pox in a box said:
Bring your residents coffee and donuts, buy them lunch without even asking, show up 30 minutes early, state an hour late, send your attending a bottle of wine for Christmas, come to work on your post-call day, round on the other students' patients, draw the labs yourself, call radiology or micro yourself and don't tell anyone the results until requested by the attending on rounds, when nothing's going on pull out the massive text such as Harrison's or Sabiston or whatever out and pretend you're reading it, overdress for oral exams, never wear scrubs when not in the OR, research a topic and then instigate the attending to start pimping everyone on that topic, find out key info on other students' patients and write a note on it or keep the information until rounds to tell the attending.


Great advice, but I don't think the question was , "How do I get my tires slashed and/or receive death threats during 3rd year?"
 
pretty trivial stuff so far...I intended to do these anways.

I need some suggestions that separate plain old gunner (my current perceived status) from THE ULTIMATE GUNNER (my desire, my goal for next year)

c'mon people help me out
 
Don't listen to the advice to show up 30 minutes early and stay an hour late. That's not enough. You need to come in at least 2 hours early and stay 3 hours late----even if the census is low and nothing is going on.

You can also volunteer to take everyone else's call, wash the attending's car, and arrange for a catered dinner for all of the attendings and housestaff.
 
BrettBatchelor said:
Slash all of your rotation mates tires so they are late.

I like this one
 
really, you can just offer sexual favors to your attendings. but that's only if you're truly committed to medicine.
 
BrettBatchelor said:
Slash all of your rotation mates tires so they are late.

Better yet, call them and tell them that the attending will be rounding 3 hours later than announced the day before. They will look like idiots.
 
interesting ideas.......my dream of becoming ULTIMATE GUNNER might come true after all 😀
 
Sammich81 said:
really, you can just offer sexual favors to your attendings.
sounds like a joke but it's not
 
sophiejane said:
eeew.

sounds like somebody needs to blow the whistle on that. I wouldn't want a doc who schmoozed their way through 3rd and 4th year that way....

It's not so bad as long as you can schmooze your way out of malpractice suits resulting from incompetency.
 
are you familiar with the old adage about the golf ball and the garden hose?
 
premedgeek said:
interesting ideas.......my dream of becoming ULTIMATE GUNNER might come true after all 😀
Have passionate, messy, and shameless affairs with male attendings' wives and then bribe them w/ pictures & video footage to give you Honors, an amazing LOR, and a personal phone call to the residency(ies) of your choosing.

Worked for me on every rotation except OB/Gyn.

🙂
 
Medical123 said:
Don't listen to the advice to show up 30 minutes early and stay an hour late. That's not enough. You need to come in at least 2 hours early and stay 3 hours late----even if the census is low and nothing is going on.
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You guys go home? I mean, not just after the rotation, but at night? Losers!
 
premedgeek said:
I will be starting third year pretty soon. Considering that it will be most important year in my life, I need some advise on being a biggest gunner possible.

So, please help me become a biggest gunner possible. 😀

You can see my blog for starters.
 
velo said:
are you familiar with the old adage about the golf ball and the garden hose?

No, I have been too busy being a gunner all my life. Please enlighten me...
 
bigfrank said:
Have passionate, messy, and shameless affairs with male attendings' wives and then bribe them w/ pictures & video footage to give you Honors, an amazing LOR, and a personal phone call to the residency(ies) of your choosing.

Worked for me on every rotation except OB/Gyn.

🙂

I need some lessons in Art of Seduction. Do you have any tips for me?

What kind of spy equipments did you use to get those footages? I need to order them ASAP so I can be ready.
 
premedgeek said:
I need some lessons in Art of Seduction. Do you have any tips for me?

What kind of spy equipments did you use to get those footages? I need to order them ASAP so I can be ready.
Send me a PM. I can hook you up.

🙂
 
premedgeek said:
I need some lessons in Art of Seduction. Do you have any tips for me?

What kind of spy equipments did you use to get those footages? I need to order them ASAP so I can be ready.
yeah Gunners do tend to be lacking in their pimp skills. Learning to be smooth and seductive is just in you or it's not. sorry. if they have a really ugly wife you just might be money.
 
what about the golf ball and the garden hose? I don't understand that one ...
 
HoodyHoo said:
yeah Gunners do tend to be lacking in their pimp skills. Learning to be smooth and seductive is just in you or it's not. sorry. if they have a really ugly wife you just might be money.

LOL 😀
 
premedgeek said:
I will be starting third year pretty soon. Considering that it will be most important year in my life, I need some advise on being a biggest gunner possible.

So, please help me become a biggest gunner possible. 😀

Slash the tires of the other students rotating in the same area as you. That way, you'll be the only one on time.

Another thing you could do is falsify the medical records of patients to make it appear that the other medical students have made huge errors. Then come in and save the day.
 
OSUdoc08 said:
Slash the tires of the other students rotating in the same area as you. That way, you'll be the only one on time.

Another thing you could do is falsify the medical records of patients to make it appear that the other medical students have made huge errors. Then come in and save the day.

This might fly onces or twice, but after that they will probably know whats going on. Are you trying to get me in trouble? 🙂 Trying to get rid of me so YOU can be the biggest gunner? :laugh: :laugh:
 
I have to say that the easier rotations to get honors in are the rotations that most people hate. If you can suck it up and smile through Ob/Gyn and/or Psychiatry, and study for those topics when you really, really don't feel like it - you'll have a little extra edge.
 
Post things on SDN that will get other people in trouble and/or kicked off a rotation so that you can perform unremarkably and still look stellar.
 
premedgeek said:
pretty trivial stuff so far...I intended to do these anways.

I need some suggestions that separate plain old gunner (my current perceived status) from THE ULTIMATE GUNNER (my desire, my goal for next year)

c'mon people help me out

You gotta be kidding me. You wanna be an A$$ hole
 
tupac_don said:
You gotta be kidding me. You wanna be an A$$ hole

Whatever it takes to get ahead in life.... 😳
 
premedgeek said:
Whatever it takes to get ahead in life.... 😳

Ok, then, take an oozie, keep it real close to you, and anyone who gets in the way, just cut em down :laugh:
 
tupac_don said:
Ok, then, take an oozie, keep it real close to you, and anyone who gets in the way, just cut em down :laugh:

I can't be THE ULTIMATE GUNNER if i am in the jail 🙁 Are you too trying to get rid of me????????? :idea:

You got any other ideas? Any help would be appreciated (maybe I will go easy on you 🙄 )
 
Pimp your classmates.

Answer questions asked of other people on your team. Later that day, photocopy an article for them and present it to them in front of the team. Say you are trying to fill in holes in the knowledge base of the team.

Scrub in on your classmates' cases and pimp them on the anatomy and the procedure.

Watch when other students do procedures, and act as though you are teaching them the procedure. Be sure to verbally outline each step, and offer suggestions as they go along. Comment on how nervous they look, and offer to take over for them since you are more experienced and skilled at that procedure. Tell the patient it is his/her right to elect to have you perform the procedure instead.

Hand your classmates the wrong supplies when changing dressings, suturing, etc. Stop them before they use it, then degrade them for being careless. Ask them to recite the steps of the procedure to you before proceeding. Say you are only trying to improve patient care.

Casually mention deficiencies in your classmates around the residents.

Only sign up for cases near the trauma room on your ER rotation so that you are always the first to respond.

Misplace your classmates pagers after they leave the locker room after changing for the OR. Better yet, answer their pages.

Hope this helps.


Loved the tip about rounding on other students patients.

Sadly, I know people who have done most of the above.
 
premedgeek said:
Whatever it takes to get ahead in life.... 😳
Dude you got some balls and i think it's sweet that you can sit here and say you want to be the ultimate gunner/kiss ass/whatever. Hope it works out for you.
 
HoodyHoo said:
Dude you got some balls and i think it's sweet that you can sit here and say you want to be the ultimate gunner/kiss ass/whatever. Hope it works out for you.

Alright, incase anyone still wondering, I am joking...
 
premedgeek said:
Alright, incase anyone still wondering, I am joking...

Yeah. It baffles me how people on this site cannot pick up on blatantly obvious sarcasm 🙄
 
What sarcasm? You mean this isn't real advice?
 
mysophobe said:
What sarcasm? You mean this isn't real advice?
get outta here!!! my 2 pages of notes for nothin???? wat the f!@#$#@!!!
 
I actually rotated with a girl who pimped me in front of attendings. At first, I didn't even realize that was what she was doing, since I am pretty naive and tend to assign pure motives to my colleagues. Fortunately, a fellow medical student caught on more quickly and would announce every evening that he had to go home and go to sleep so he could get up extra early and round on all the girl's patients. She took him seriously and took to going in around 5 AM to make sure she was first to see her own patients. Of course, she graduated AOA.
 
The sad thing is that there are probably people taking notes on all of this. Some of the crap that goes on during the clinical rotations is just amazing. I had a fellow student on medicine who would get stuck on pimp questions and then say, "Medical...do you know?" in hopes of making me look as bad as she did for not knowing the answer.

A guy at my school actually told one of my fellow classmates that he would give her a ride to the hospital after her car broke down on the surgery rotation. The rumor is that she stood out in the cold waiting for him to come and he never did. On the rounds that morning, people were asking where she was and he replied that he "didn't know." 👎
 
Wow, I can't believe this is all true.... 👎

Maybe they shouldn't count 3rd year grades as much, so people would at least get along fine and not cut each other's throat.
 
Al the "gunners" I've ever had have mentioned 3 things to their attendings:

1. That they got the highest possible grade in some unrelated specialty
2. That the other students on the rotation "had trouble with" whatever they did before
3. That they are working so much harder than the other students on the team (sometimes all the other students on rotation this block) and no one notices but that's OK.

Good luck in your quest


premedgeek said:
I will be starting third year pretty soon. Considering that it will be most important year in my life, I need some advise on being a biggest gunner possible.

So, please help me become a biggest gunner possible. 😀
 
manO'war said:
get outta here!!! my 2 pages of notes for nothin???? wat the f!@#$#@!!!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 
There was a medstudent in the class of one of the MD's I know who was always volunteering to get food and they would always get sick afterwards. A year after they graduated my friend got a call from the FBI and apparently this classmate had been poisoning medical staff with strichnine. I think that's the goal for all of us gunners. Be such a gunner that the FBI has to take you down.
 
jubb said:
There was a medstudent in the class of one of the MD's I know who was always volunteering to get food and they would always get sick afterwards. A year after they graduated my friend got a call from the FBI and apparently this classmate had been poisoning medical staff with strichnine. I think that's the goal for all of us gunners. Be such a gunner that the FBI has to take you down.

I must be totally ambitionless because it has never once crossed my mind to poison somebody else so I can get a good grade. I guess I can kiss the Neurosurgery and Dermatology goodbye. Family Med is all slackers like me are good for.
 
Good thing I'm such a germaphobe I never let anyone get food for me.
 
more stories please! This is grrreat!
 
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