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I know everyone says don't worry about cost, but I do it's scary to think that I will be owing that much money but I know it comes with the territory. Having that said, I'm choosing between state schools and public schools. State schools have cheaper tuition but don't offer many scholarships or grants. Private schools tuitions are more expensive but offer more scholarships and grants. If I was to compare the cost or in debtness of TCOM vs. PCOM is one going to be significantly more than the other due to the tuition costs or will the scholarship and grant money even things out?
 
I know what you mean I didn't apply to my secondaries from AZCOM, TOURO, Western, and I'm not going to NYCOM because of their high tuition. I feel bad but this is part of the reason why TCOM, UMDNJ-COM, and LECOM-Brand are my top choices as of right now.
 
The only thing that I was worried about with UMDNJ-COM is that it is 9 miles away from Camden NJ which has the highest crime rate in the US.
 
if u get shot..ur close to the hospitals..no biggie 😉
 
you reminded me that lecom is cheap...hmm..maybe I should send my secondary in there after all... I just can't get over the fact that it is so new. I feel like that will be a big disadvantage come match time..
 
that was somthing that I was concerned about also. They were established in 2004. Yet the tuition is 26 thou a year, good location, new state of the art facilaties, and your match is dependent on your performance on the boards the bigger concern is finding out what the pass rate was for the school over the past few years. Thats why TCOM is up there for me it had the highest pass rate of all Osteopathic med schools (99.9%) I am going for an interview on the 13th of october my grandma has a house in sarasota fl. right by the school so that helps too but I am definetly worried about the same thing. I can't imagine in comparison to TCOM, PCOM that LECOM-Brand would have the same amount of clinical hospital access but I could be wrong.
 
yea, i love sarasota, the area is amazing, but 2004? Well if you come across statistics, please share. I am more interested in the average score rather than pass rate tho, since that is probably a better indicator of the quality of education.
 
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Good point! I am going to give the schools a call monday to find that out the avg score. Right now I'm looking at TCOM, LECOM-Brand, UMDNJ-Com, VCOM

I'll give them all a call about that and post it monday
 
don't feel bad for letting tuition affect your appeal for a school. i don't think anyone can blame you for that. you seem like a solid applicant (i spied on u on mdapplicant 😉) so you will probably be able to be more selective using whatever criteria is most important to you (cost, pass rates, etc.). i would love to go to michigan state--but realistically it probably won't happen (oos--admission rate and tuition).

one thing i've been told by a current DO student, though, is to take school's published board score pass rates with a grain of salt. some schools make their students pass a preliminary test in order to qualify to sit for the COMLEX/USMLE. a school's pass rate may be super high--as a result--but the rates obviously only reflect the scores of the students that were allowed to sit for the test. just something to keep in mind.
 
Wow that is sneaky I don't think that is cool at all!!!! Do you or anyone else know what schools offer a free prep course for the exam? ie. Kaplan
 
Wow that is sneaky I don't think that is cool at all!!!! Do you or anyone else know what schools offer a free prep course for the exam? ie. Kaplan

I don't know about courses, but I do remember that our student tour guide when I visited LECOM Erie mentioned that they have Kaplan materials available in their library.
 
yea, i love sarasota, the area is amazing, but 2004? Well if you come across statistics, please share. I am more interested in the average score rather than pass rate tho, since that is probably a better indicator of the quality of education.

I doubt that they'll give you an average score at LECOM-B, just because the information isn't really available yet. In a meeting with the dean last week, he said that they had results from 113 2008's students so far and 90% passed. Those who failed were all above 350 (passing is 400).

But, keep in mind two things. First, the class time for class of 2008 was shorter. They were offered free Kaplan courses, but they had to come in on weekends for the lectures. The schedule for 2009 and for my class is longer, frontloaded some PBL, and now has the last four weeks set aside just for the Kaplan course. Second, since the first year, the quality of students has greatly increased. 2009 had better test averages and 2010 has much better test averages. Given that, I'd be willing to make an assumption that the pass rate will improve somewhat. The best thing is that the school has really been receptive to changes that have been suggested by the students. Yes, things are still subject to change, but I think that's a good thing. Too many places just keep doing things the same old way because that's the way it's always been done. That can lead to a stagnant learning environment.

New doesn't mean bad. They really went all out hiring professors to make sure that they have people with medical school teaching experience. OK, they pretty much raided the med school faculty from USF in Tampa too, but you gotta do what you gotta do. I could go overboard about the clinical faculty and instruction as well. After the first day of letcure in clinical exam (during week one) I was sitting in front of a former military physician who is board certified in family medicine. He was playing the patient and I was "the doctor" doing a history. It was pretty scary, but six weeks later I'm getting pretty good at it. I'd better be because we have to pass an OSCE exam this semester proving we can do it. Next semester is physical exams and it sounds a little scary, but I'm ready for it. Also, PBL is so advantageous because I already have a pretty damned thorough knowledge of CBC's and ABG's and have been exposed to interpreting ECG's and a host of other tests already. Right now, PBL is only once a week. However, Anatomy/Histo/Embryo is over in three weeks and we go into it 3 days a week. I'm ready for that.

The big point, though, should be to find the right school for you to fit into. I fell in love with the place during my interview and cancelled all of my remaining interviews. You might feel differently. But, try to go into it with an open mind. I absolutely love the students, administion and faculty. They were a big part of why I made Bradenton my choice, but tuition was a big bonus as well. OOS tuition for $26,000 in a beach resort area...that's just my idea of spectacular!
 
The only thing that I was worried about with UMDNJ-COM is that it is 9 miles away from Camden NJ which has the highest crime rate in the US.

Seriously it's not that bad. UMDNJ-SOM is far enough outside the city and there are some extremely nice neighborhoods in Voorhees, Cherry Hill, and Haddonfield (all which are around the school) to live in. Camden is West on your way to Philly and the only time you have to go there is for rotations at Our Lady of Lourdes or affiliated sites during 3rd and 4th year.

Remember, in order to be a well trained physician you will want to have worked with and treated patients from all walks of life and with all types of pathology. I consider this a big asset to UMDNJ's clinical years.

-J
 
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