Need Help With DO App List

[MedPR]

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I'm a URM that wen't to undergraduate in Missouri and am currently living/working in Missouri. After reading through the CIB and feedback from SDN I've made a list of schools that I am going to apply to. I'm now looking for some feedback regarding mostly downsides to any of the schools listed as well as schools I should consider based on what I'm looking for and my stats.

My primary concern is attending a school that has good opportunities for third and fourth years. First and second year are important too, obviously, but I feel like how well you do and how much you learn in pre-clinicals is under your control. I also don't want to go somewhere that has any sort of post-graduation requirements (like OU-COM), but I'm pretty sure none of the following schools do. Also, having a good amount of practicing alumns is pretty important as it might help with job hunting later down the road. My stats are in the WAMC board, but sGPA 3.22, cGPA 3.20, MCAT 33Q, LORs and ECs are decent/good.

Here is my list, from first pick to last pick (based on location, price, reputation, and my perceived future opportunity from going there)

DMU
KCUMB
ATSU-KCOM
CCOM
PCOM
LECOM
ATSU-SOMA
UMDNJ
NYCOM


I know 9 is a short list, but I'm also going to be applying to some MD schools. Will 9 DO schools be enough for me?

Edit: Put in specific order.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

I'm a URM that wen't to undergraduate in Missouri and am currently living/working in Missouri. After reading through the CIB and feedback from SDN I've made a list of schools that I am going to apply to. I'm now looking for some feedback regarding mostly downsides to any of the schools listed as well as schools I should consider based on what I'm looking for and my stats.

My primary concern is attending a school that has good opportunities for third and fourth years. First and second year are important too, obviously, but I feel like how well you do and how much you learn in pre-clinicals is under your control. I also don't want to go somewhere that has any sort of post-graduation requirements (like OU-COM), but I'm pretty sure none of the following schools do. Also, having a good amount of practicing alumns is pretty important as it might help with job hunting later down the road. My stats are in the WAMC board, but sGPA 3.22, cGPA 3.20, MCAT 33Q, LORs and ECs are decent/good.

Here is my list, in no particular order.

ATSU (Both)
CCOM
DMU
KCUMB
PCOM (Not Georgia Campus)
UMDNJ
NYCOM

I know 9 is a short list, but I'm also going to be applying to some MD schools. Will 9 DO be enough for me?

UMDNJ,PCOM,and NYCOM will be unlikely to accept you. They primarily seek out East Coasters or New Englanders. NYCOM also has some issues...But yah 9 schools is probably more than enough especially since you've got a decent chance of getting into your state's MD school.

Consider the following:
LECOM - Draconian rules but cheap.
NSU - Warm
TUCOM-NV - Las Vegas
LMU-DCOM

 

[MedPR]

UMDNJ,PCOM,and NYCOM will be unlikely to accept you. They primarily seek out East Coasters or New Englanders. NYCOM also has some issues...But yah 9 schools is probably more than enough especially since you've got a decent chance of getting into your state's MD school.

Consider the following:
LECOM - Draconian rules but cheap.
NSU - Warm
TUCOM-NV - Las Vegas
LMU-DCOM

Draconian rules? Like fail a class and get kicked out without a chance at remediation?

Also by my state's MD school are you talking about UMKC or Mizzou? I'm considering applying to Saint Louis University as well since I went to undergrad there, though I know it's a long shot.

 

[411309]

Lecom has strict rules; dress clothes/tie the minute you set foot on campus, and you have to have a security card to enter buildings and random stuff like that.

 

[MedPR]

Lecom has strict rules; dress clothes/tie the minute you set foot on campus, and you have to have a security card to enter buildings and random stuff like that.

As in MS1/MS2 have to wear a tie to class everyday? That sounds lame.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Draconian rules? Like fail a class and get kicked out without a chance at remediation?

Also by my state's MD school are you talking about UMKC or Mizzou? I'm considering applying to Saint Louis University as well since I went to undergrad there, though I know it's a long shot.

Mizzou

 

[MedPR]

Mizzou

Thanks.

Another thing, do you know all of the DO schools are doing system based learning for pre-clinical years? I tried an SDN search but didn't find anything complete. Also couldn't find any info on the school websites.

Edit: Seems like DMU is not systems http://www.dmu.edu/do/curriculum/

The curriculum uses a combination of lectures, case-based and small-group discussions and laboratory exercises

 

[ValentineLissar]

Thanks.

Another thing, do you know all of the DO schools are doing system based learning for pre-clinical years? I tried an SDN search but didn't find anything complete. Also couldn't find any info on the school websites.

Edit: Seems like DMU is not systems http://www.dmu.edu/do/curriculum/

I'm slightly confused by your definition of DMU's curriculum. You say that it's not systems based, but I thought a "not" systems approach would be through problem based learning or learning through experience as opposed to going to lecture and having labs.

Also, is there a better system that helps educate students better? Are most medical schools by convention supposed to use systems' base learning or problem based?

Thanks in advance.

 

[MedPR]

I'm slightly confused by your definition of DMU's curriculum. You say that it's not systems based, but I thought a "not" systems approach would be through problem based learning or learning through experience as opposed to going to lecture and having labs.

Also, is there a better system that helps educate students better? Are most medical schools by convention supposed to use systems' base learning or problem based?

Thanks in advance.

My understanding is that systems based learning teaches you everything by system. For instance, you will learn pathology, pharmacology, anatomy, etc for each system. The traditional method (as I understand it) is learning Pathology of every system, then pharm of every system, etc.

 

[COMedic2Doc]

My understanding is that systems based learning teaches you everything by system. For instance, you will learn pathology, pharmacology, anatomy, etc for each system. The traditional method (as I understand it) is learning Pathology of every system, then pharm of every system, etc.

+1. Systems based is after the first year or so for most courses or at least after some of the "basics" from my understanding.

 

[UrshumMurshum]

MedPR not to turn this into a racist thing but with your stats if your URM status is black you have a 71% of getting accepted into an MD school. This is assuming your GPA is around 3-3.2 without the D.O. replacement policy.

 

[MedPR]

MedPR not to turn this into a racist thing but with your stats if your URM status is black you have a 71% of getting accepted into an MD school. This is assuming your GPA is around 3-3.2 without the D.O. replacement policy.

I'm Native Hawaiian, not black. I think the chances are about the same though. I'm going to apply to both MD and DO.