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[Ochemlover45]

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I was wondering if you could help me answer my question. I will be applying to DO schools only next year. I ended up with a D in two three credit hour classes. I took these courses 10 years ago. They are easy freshmen level courses. I was wondering if I should retake them for an A.

I currently have 12 withdraws. Most of these are from 10 years ago.

sGPA will remain 3.89 because these are liberal arts classes.
Applying without repeating anymore courses:
non-sGPA: 2.8
cGPA: 3.10

Repeating one course:
non-sGPA: 2.94
cGPA: 3.22

Repeating two courses:
non-sGPA: 3.02
cGPA: 3.27

Which option should I choose?

 

[ksmajmudar]

I was wondering if you could help me answer my question. I will be applying to DO schools only next year. I ended up with a D in two three credit hour classes. I took these courses 10 years ago. They are easy freshmen level courses. I was wondering if I should retake them for an A.

I currently have 12 withdraws. Most of these are from 10 years ago.

sGPA will remain 3.89 because these are liberal arts classes.
Applying without repeating anymore courses:
non-sGPA: 2.8
cGPA: 3.10

Repeating one course:
non-sGPA: 2.94
cGPA: 3.22

Repeating two courses:
non-sGPA: 3.02
cGPA: 3.27

Which option should I choose?

Third option. If possible, retake more!

 

[se20001984]

ahahahah..why would you even ask that..lol

 

[DrWily]

ahahahah..why would you even ask that..lol

Because it's a valid question about NON-SCIENCE courses and the answer isn't clearcut.

I'll disagree with ksm and say don't retake those classes. They were non-science, and taken a long time ago. Since it's been a long time since you've taken courses, I would take upper division science courses and ace them. This demonstrates that you haven't "lost it" and can still handle tough sciences. This would be a much better use of your time. Numbers aren't everything, and non-science GPA doesn't mean jack. cGPA has some bearing, but I think the major red flag here is the fact that you've been out of college for several years.

I'm willing to bet that AdComms could care less about two D's in non-science courses. Your cGPA is a little less than mine, your sGPA blows mine out of the water. I'm Class of 2016. What's your MCAT? Kill that too.

 

[Ochemlover45]

Thanks ksmajmudar and DrWily for the replies.

Just to clarify. I received an associates in an allied health degree and I'm about to complete the bachelors in that field. I have taken all of my science pre-reqs in the last year.

 

[DrWily]

Thanks ksmajmudar and DrWily for the replies.

Just to clarify. I received an associates in an allied health degree and I'm about to complete the bachelors in that field. I have taken all of my science pre-reqs in the last year.

In that case, retake the courses with a D then. Every little bit helps, and having done the pre-reqs recently is enough I think.

 

[ksmajmudar]

How dare you disagree with me, Dr. Wily!

I think you should retake the Ds because you just need to bring your cGPA up. Your sGPA is fine, and if you can get your cGPA to a 3.2 or higher, you're gravy baby!

 

[poopyhead]

This demonstrates that you haven't "lost it" and can still handle tough sciences.

Most schools didn't care that I look my last course nearly a decade ago 😛

 

[ManBroDude]

What were the classes? If they're easy and you've got the money, I'd say go for it. If it was Calc 4 or Computer Science, we'd have to have a talk.

 

[Ochemlover45]

What were the classes? If they're easy and you've got the money, I'd say go for it. If it was Calc 4 or Computer Science, we'd have to have a talk.

They were Contemporary Ethical Issues and a Western Civilization class. They should be fairly easy.

 

[ManBroDude]

Have fun in Contemporary Ethical Issues and Western Civ next semester!
D -> A in two classes is a big for your cGPA. (as you already calculated, you're going from 8 quality points to 24 for a difference of +16, without increasing the number of credit hours).

 

[Ochemlover45]

I didn't want to make another thread so I'm bumping this old post.

AACOMAS will not tell me if my classes match up to allow grade forgiveness. I was looking for some input before I spend money on courses that might not help my GPA significantly.

Please let me know if you think AACOMAS will allow me to repeat the old course with the new course.

Old: Contemporary Ethical Issues: An attempt to provide the student with a theoretical framework to approach the great moral issues of our time. Gordon Rule Additional Writing credit

New: Principles of Ethics: Examines the various methods of ethics that have been taught by different western moral philosophers. Methods examined in order to determine the rational procedures for what individuals ought to do or what is right for them to do. Methods are applied to a variety of contemporary moral problems. (Arts and Humanities elective).

Old: First part of a two-term interdisciplinary survey course that combines Western civilization lectures with discussions of major works of Western culture. Students are encouraged to take both EUH 1000 and EUH 1001 but only one of the two courses is required of all freshmen. Gordon Rule Additional Writing credit.

New: West Civ I (Antiquity To 1648): Examines the development of Western society from antiquity to the conclusion of the Thirty Years’ War. Special consideration given to the ideas, individuals, and institutions that shaped the development of the Ancient, Medieval and Renaissance worlds. (Also offered as a web course). (Arts & Humanities elective).

Sorry for the length of this post. Any input would be fantastic.

 

[dntke1518]

I didn't want to make another thread so I'm bumping this old post.

AACOMAS will not tell me if my classes match up to allow grade forgiveness. I was looking for some input before I spend money on courses that might not help my GPA significantly.

Please let me know if you think AACOMAS will allow me to repeat the old course with the new course.

Old: Contemporary Ethical Issues: An attempt to provide the student with a theoretical framework to approach the great moral issues of our time. Gordon Rule Additional Writing credit

New: Principles of Ethics: Examines the various methods of ethics that have been taught by different western moral philosophers. Methods examined in order to determine the rational procedures for what individuals ought to do or what is right for them to do. Methods are applied to a variety of contemporary moral problems. (Arts and Humanities elective).

Old: First part of a two-term interdisciplinary survey course that combines Western civilization lectures with discussions of major works of Western culture. Students are encouraged to take both EUH 1000 and EUH 1001 but only one of the two courses is required of all freshmen. Gordon Rule Additional Writing credit.

New: West Civ I (Antiquity To 1648): Examines the development of Western society from antiquity to the conclusion of the Thirty Years’ War. Special consideration given to the ideas, individuals, and institutions that shaped the development of the Ancient, Medieval and Renaissance worlds. (Also offered as a web course). (Arts & Humanities elective).

Sorry for the length of this post. Any input would be fantastic.

Are these two separate classes that you are asking about?

I think your gut feeling is going to be about as good as ours. I am baffled that AACOMAS wouldn't offer any insight to this.

For me I guess it would depend on the amount of money that you will be spending... if it is a good chunk of change for these two classes I would say no. I skimmed the previous posts a bit and your sGPA seems good so spending a bunch of money on the non-science stuff wouldn't drive me to spend a bunch of money on these classes.

 

[Ochemlover45]

Are these two separate classes that you are asking about?

I think your gut feeling is going to be about as good as ours. I am baffled that AACOMAS wouldn't offer any insight to this.

For me I guess it would depend on the amount of money that you will be spending... if it is a good chunk of change for these two classes I would say no. I skimmed the previous posts a bit and your sGPA seems good so spending a bunch of money on the non-science stuff wouldn't drive me to spend a bunch of money on these classes.

They are two different classes. I feel that I could gerrymander each course description in favor of both outcomes. They resemble each other but not enough for a definite answer.

Personally, I don't blame AACOMAS for not telling me. I'm sure there has been much controversy about applicants complaining because employee Y said they could retake while employee Z said the description did not match.

 

[Manipulator55]

non-science GPA doesn't mean jack.

thank god

 

[dntke1518]

thank god

Yeah like Wily said, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Especially if you don't know if it will even benefit you.