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Ok, so I didn't even know what a gunner was until I came to SDN, so I thought I'd run an idea past you guys.

I share a bench in orgo lab with 3 utterly useless frat boys (no offense to frat boys, but these guys aren't doing much to buck the stereotypes) who are always asking me stupid questions (i.e. "Where'd you get that incredibly flammable and noxious reagent?" "Gee, maybe from the fume hood where EVERYTHING ALWAYS IS."). Usually I help them out or give them an ambiguous answer if I'm particularly annoyed, but the other day an idea struck me. What if I go completely over the top with helping them? I mean practically holding their hands. This could potentially lower their grades since techniques are stressed in lab reports and exams, and could subsequently help lower the curve.

Of course, this is all very theoretical. First of all, I don't really intend to do such a thing, and second, it probably wouldn't even work. Besides, these guys aren't really a big threat to the curve to begin with. That being said, my question is would a person doing such a thing be considered a gunner? The aim is the same (sabotage), but what it really amounts to is killing them with kindness. What are your thoughts?
 

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What if I go completely over the top with helping them? I mean practically holding their hands. This could potentially lower their grades since techniques are stressed in lab reports and exams, and could subsequently help lower the curve.

The sabotage element here is a classic gunner technique. These people aren't even an academic threat to you, but you're still thinking of taking intentional action to 'help' them do worse? :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
 
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Yeah you should waste your time attempting to "hurt" other people. This is fantastic idea.
 

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maaaaaan sometimes I agree with you.

here is what I think: you are thinking only on the short run! these guys will make bad grades because they lack the technique to make the good grades!

even better... walk them through EVERYTHING! people in my chem2 lab (somehow I got an A in the lab) just straight up copied my work. I was thinking... heyyyyy you know what?

what if they THOUGHT they were getting good grades and THOUGHT they had the technique because they had the grades... and then BOOM MCAT! SUPRISE DOUCHEBAG!!!!

:eek:
 

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I was under the impression that the (Med School) Gunner does not sabotage or go out of his/her way to ruin others, rather he/she will not do anything to help others do better. For example, Gunners don't share notes, explain things, etc.

To answer the OP's question, I don't think it would be considered a new gunning technique.
 

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I witnessed a gunner coming out of the closet today. I was in Genetics and had a question directed specifically to me, when all of a sudden, just as I am about to answer, I hear a voice from across the room. I look up as a girl who has never said a single thing in class all semester speaks up with an articulate and elaborate answer. The teacher was obviously annoyed, however, and I didn't have to answer a question I wasn't sure of, so I guess it all worked out. Oh, gunners - you can't live with them, you wish you could live without them...
 

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I was under the impression that the (Med School) Gunner does not sabotage or go out of his/her way to ruin others, rather he/she will not do anything to help others do better. For example, Gunners don't share notes, explain things, etc.

To answer the OP's question, I don't think it would be considered a new gunning technique.

So what do you call those who do go out of their way to sabotage or ruin others? I thought these were gunners.
 

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Ok, so I didn't even know what a gunner was until I came to SDN, so I thought I'd run an idea past you guys.

I share a bench in orgo lab with 3 utterly useless frat boys (no offense to frat boys, but these guys aren't doing much to buck the stereotypes) who are always asking me stupid questions (i.e. "Where'd you get that incredibly flammable and noxious reagent?" "Gee, maybe from the fume hood where EVERYTHING ALWAYS IS."). Usually I help them out or give them an ambiguous answer if I'm particularly annoyed, but the other day an idea struck me. What if I go completely over the top with helping them? I mean practically holding their hands. This could potentially lower their grades since techniques are stressed in lab reports and exams, and could subsequently help lower the curve.

Of course, this is all very theoretical. First of all, I don't really intend to do such a thing, and second, it probably wouldn't even work. Besides, these guys aren't really a big threat to the curve to begin with. That being said, my question is would a person doing such a thing be considered a gunner? The aim is the same (sabotage), but what it really amounts to is killing them with kindness. What are your thoughts?

Active sabotage smacks of gunnerism. On the other hand, if these guys are tools, then just do the Aikido, or Tai Chi thing, and let them dig their own graves. There's no need for you to do further harm.
 

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Yeah you should waste your time attempting to "hurt" other people. This is fantastic idea.

Actually, I stated that it was something I wouldn't actually do. It was more of a thought experiment based on other threads I've seen regarding gunners on SDN.
 

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So what do you call those who do go out of their way to sabotage or ruin others? I thought these were gunners.

Academically dishonest. Gunners would have to play by the rules, right? No way they would risk getting kicked out.
 

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I just recalled my gunner experience (tell me if this counts). After the PS on the MCAT, a guy ran past me, shoving me, in order to get to the washroom first. He then urinated and left the washroom without washing his hand (to his credit, I think he brought wetnaps or something).
 
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lol.. i understand. Then I'm happy to say I've never come across a real gunner- probably many closet ones though.
 

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Maybe you should realize that this class is just a ****ing LAB!!! If you really want to be a gunner, then sabotage people in the lecture classes.
gunners dont distinguish a lab class from lecture class. they relentlessly put down people subtlely in their own gunner ways.

this is straight from gunner101
 

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Another SDN debate on the word gunner. :sleep:
Clearly it's a subjective term. let it go.
 

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(i.e. "Where'd you get that incredibly flammable and noxious reagent?" "Gee, maybe from the fume hood where EVERYTHING ALWAYS IS.").

...if this comment was followed by unstoppable laughter they were probably accusing you of ripping a silent but deadly.:thumbup:
 

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maaaaaan sometimes I agree with you.

here is what I think: you are thinking only on the short run! these guys will make bad grades because they lack the technique to make the good grades!

even better... walk them through EVERYTHING! people in my chem2 lab (somehow I got an A in the lab) just straight up copied my work. I was thinking... heyyyyy you know what?

what if they THOUGHT they were getting good grades and THOUGHT they had the technique because they had the grades... and then BOOM MCAT! SUPRISE DOUCHEBAG!!!!

:eek:
If that's not the funniest thing I've heard all week, I don't know what is :laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

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i got a new definition that most people would agree with:

gunner: someone who isn't me
 

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most people who post on here are probably gunners, but just don't realize it.
 

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The definition I'm getting from all of this is Gunner=being juvenile and a fu*king douche.
 

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Ok, so I didn't even know what a gunner was until I came to SDN, so I thought I'd run an idea past you guys.

I share a bench in orgo lab with 3 utterly useless frat boys (no offense to frat boys, but these guys aren't doing much to buck the stereotypes) who are always asking me stupid questions (i.e. "Where'd you get that incredibly flammable and noxious reagent?" "Gee, maybe from the fume hood where EVERYTHING ALWAYS IS."). Usually I help them out or give them an ambiguous answer if I'm particularly annoyed, but the other day an idea struck me. What if I go completely over the top with helping them? I mean practically holding their hands. This could potentially lower their grades since techniques are stressed in lab reports and exams, and could subsequently help lower the curve.

Of course, this is all very theoretical. First of all, I don't really intend to do such a thing, and second, it probably wouldn't even work. Besides, these guys aren't really a big threat to the curve to begin with. That being said, my question is would a person doing such a thing be considered a gunner? The aim is the same (sabotage), but what it really amounts to is killing them with kindness. What are your thoughts?

Why not just inject said "incredibly flammable and noxious" reagent into their beer keg, and wipe out their entire frat house while you're at it?

And yes, Gunners = collossal douchebags. I got where I did without elaborate plans for sabotage or studying around the clock. Just get a f***ing life.
 

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most people who post on here are probably gunners, but just don't realize it.

No - gunners are more of a rarity. It is a form of paranoia when you conider your classmates the enemy and see ruining others as the optimum path to your own success. These people exist, but are not rampant, so there's probably only one or two on SDN at most. Probably trolls, as that is a form of spreading bad info and ruining a resource others may find helpful.
 

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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3837083

this is a great story on gunners

i dont understand why poeple cant just realize that if you HELP other people in the end it will come back to you. Sabotage poeple around you and it will come back to haunt you. I am big believer in Karma. Be good to others and in the end people will be good to you!
 

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I just recalled my gunner experience (tell me if this counts). After the PS on the MCAT, a guy ran past me, shoving me, in order to get to the washroom first. He then urinated and left the washroom without washing his hand (to his credit, I think he brought wetnaps or something).

Maybe he just really had to pee. I doubt this guy would make such an effor to be a better urinator than you. :rolleyes:
 
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