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I am just starting school and I am scared but excited at the same time. I have 3 kids and a very supportive husband. The thing I am scared about is that I am going to have to work because my husband doesn't make enough to support us without my income. I have been wanting to become a doctor for about 6 years now.

I was just wondering if the schooling was really hard, if so when does it start getting hard?
Can I possibly make it through all my schooling with 3 kids (ages:4yrs, 2yrs, and 4 months)?
Is there any suggestions that will help me get in to med school?

Thank you so much for your help!
 
I was just wondering if the schooling was really hard, if so when does it start getting hard? Can I possibly make it through all my schooling with 3 kids (ages:4yrs, 2yrs, and 4 months)? Is there any suggestions that will help me get in to med school?

Yes, immediately, absolutely, and an entire forum full.

Questions that would help us to help: Have you just started undergrad, or do you just need to do the pre-med requirements? If you've done an undergraduate degree before what was your GPA? If not what is your current major? Have you taken any premed classes yet?


The thing I am scared about is that I am going to have to work because my husband doesn't make enough to support us without my income.

You can definitely work in Undergrad. In medical school it might be harder to moonlight, but there are lots of financial options when you get there to keep your kids off the Ramen.

And have a very Merry Christmas with your family (if Christian) or may your Chinese food be delicious (if not).
 
I am just starting college altogether. I am starting for my associates in science. (Pre-Medicine- Science with Chemisty Concentration Program). What should I keep my GPA at and if it falls low should I take that class all over the next semester. Sorry I am new at this, so I don't know much about what the requirements are for med school, and how hard it is to get in med school. Thank you for your help.
 
And have a very Merry Christmas with your family (if Christian) or may your Chinese food be delicious (if not).

Love it. 😀

I am just starting college altogether. I am starting for my associates in science. (Pre-Medicine- Science with Chemisty Concentration Program). What should I keep my GPA at and if it falls low should I take that class all over the next semester. Sorry I am new at this, so I don't know much about what the requirements are for med school, and how hard it is to get in med school. Thank you for your help.

Kgrub: I think you should take some time and peruse the pre-allo or pre-osteo forum. Check out the FAQs, do some searches, etc. There is a TON of information on this web site (and the search function within the forums is very useful). If you're open to getting a DO instead of an MD (DO = doctor of osteopathic medicine - check out the pre-osteo forum and the FAQs there if you have any questions), that might work better for you, as they are more lenient about grades, and I've heard they're generally more flexible for non-trads. However, you still need to get the best grades you can regardless of whether you're shooting for a DO or an MD degree. For MD, I would say that a 3.5+ is more competitive, but people with 3.2 gpas also get in (and have much more luck with their state schools). Also, other things can help a lower gpa, like a stellar MCAT score, great letters of recommendation, excellent ECs (volunteering, research, etc.), or perhaps being a great fit for a school (seventh day adventist for Loma Linda, an interest in rural medicine for schools that focus on that), etc. So, before you start worrying about your gpa, I think you should just try to get started.

Also, you certainly don't have to major in chemistry or a science in order to be a pre-med and apply to med school. You could just as easily major in english or a humanities, provided you do well in the science pre-reqs. And, it might be easier to keep your gpa a little higher.

I don't know what state you're in, but if you're in a state with state schools, you're in a better position (provided that you're not in CA, which is crazy competitive). Your best bet will be your state schools, AND, given that you're a non-trad with a family, you'll probably want to stay local. So check out the MD and DO schools in your area, and see what their stats are. That will show you what you need to shoot for to be competitive. If you don't have access to a library with an MSAR book, you can look online for those stats (I think there's a site called www.medschoolready.com), or go to the school's web sites and click on their admissions web pages.

Also, you should start getting clinical experience asap. Not just to put on your application when it comes time to apply, but more importantly so that you can get first hand experience of what it's like working in the health care field and that you definitely want to pursue it. And given that you're looking at a number of pre-med years, four years for med school and then a minimum of 3 years of residency, you might also check out if a PA would work better for you (Physician's Assistant). Less expensive and less time. However, you'd also have less autonomy and independence (from what I've heard) than if you became an MD/DO.

Ok, I feel like I'm rambling all over the place here. I think the best advice I can give you would be to see if your school has a pre-med advising department or a career development office, and see if there is a pre-med advisor. If so, make an appointment and bring your list of questions. Good luck! I definitely believe that if there's a will there's a way....
 
I am just starting school and I am scared but excited at the same time. I have 3 kids and a very supportive husband. The thing I am scared about is that I am going to have to work because my husband doesn't make enough to support us without my income. I have been wanting to become a doctor for about 6 years now.

I was just wondering if the schooling was really hard, if so when does it start getting hard?
Can I possibly make it through all my schooling with 3 kids (ages:4yrs, 2yrs, and 4 months)?
Is there any suggestions that will help me get in to med school?

Thank you so much for your help!

You can make med school work. I am a first year, and I have a wife and three kids with a fourth on the way. By far, the most important thing you need is a good support network. Without the support of your husband, this road will be very difficult. You will be studying a lot. Undergrad is not as bad, but you need to keep your grades up as high as you can. Do not listen to people who say you can get by with a 3.2. It is not true anymore. For instance, over 40,000 people applied to med school last year. That is up over 20% from the previous year. This year is even more competitive. I do student interviews for Drexel and the admissions people are reviewing even more apps than last year. So, if you have to work, fine. But if your grades start to suffer, you need to reassess and ask yourself what your goal really is.

Finances in med school are easier than in undergrad because you can take out GradPlus loans for living expenses. My wife stays home and is raising our kids. I am taking out more loans than the average student, but we feel the sacrifice is worth the money.

Just be aware that you will not be able to play as active a role in your childrens' lives as you would if you were just working a regular job. In med school you will be studying a lot.
 
I am just starting college altogether. I am starting for my associates in science. (Pre-Medicine- Science with Chemisty Concentration Program). What should I keep my GPA at and if it falls low should I take that class all over the next semester. Sorry I am new at this, so I don't know much about what the requirements are for med school, and how hard it is to get in med school. Thank you for your help.

The average for non-minority medical school matriculants is currently a 3.7 GPA and a 31 on the MCAT. Anything below a 3.5 and you're going to have a tough time getting in (not that there aren't ways around that, but if you're just starting go ahead and make things easy for yourself by getting good grades). The conventional wisdom is that, to get into medical school, keep that GPA as high as possible even if it means taking easier classes. A 3.8 from a playground management major >>> 3.2 from a quantum physics major. They will also calculate a seperate BCPM (Biology, Chemistry, Physics, and Math) GPA, so make sure that your average in those classes also stays around a 3.7.

The requirements are something you can discusss with your pre-medical advisor, who you should start seeing now rather than right before you start to apply. These are probably going to be the hardest classes in your cirrciulum, particularly the Chemistry classes. All I can say is good luck and study hard.

Retaking a class does not generally help you. If you retake a class medical admissions will average your class grades together, rather than replace the grade. This is regardless of your school's policy concerning retakes. There is some argument about whether you should retake a C if it is a core premedical course, but otherwise you should only retake a course if it is a D or an F.

Good luck.
 
The conventional wisdom is that, to get into medical school, keep that GPA as high as possible even if it means taking easier classes. A 3.8 from a playground management major >>> 3.2 from a quantum physics major. They will also calculate a seperate BCPM (Biology, Chemistry, Physics, and Math) GPA, so make sure that your average in those classes also stays around a 3.7.

Well-since this is the non-trad forum...Does that "conventional wisdom" seem to apply here as well? I have a hard time reconciling this conventional wisdom...Basically, I could imagine that several people might have gotten high GPA in a non-science undergrad and decide well after the fact to become the doctor (like they always wanted...) Do they tend to get in?

(in the interest of complete disclosure-I am prolly a little closer to the 3.2 quantum physics major-in other words, reasonable GPA but intensely focused on an area tangential to the "conventional wisdom" med-school applicant)
 
Hi OP,

Someone mentioned to do a search, sdn ussually has the answer but beware there's alot of garbage that you have to sift through.

Currently I'm 26. I started school when I was 21 and when my son was 1. Life will get extremely difficult. Strain on family relationships will happen.
My advice to you is start with an achievable goal, aim for the associates degree...then move on to your bachelors. I get overwhelmed easily, and setting small goals helps me. Currently I have about a year left until I get my BS. Take one day at a time and Yes you can do it.
 
Hi,

I have eight children although they're older now. My science GPA isn't what I want it to be (3.5ish,) but I'm going to school fulltime and volunteering in the hospital as well as mothering a lot of children.

I believe the life experience we nontraditional students offer is a factor. Osteopathic schools seem much more welcoming of nontraditional students.

I hope you find a way to make your dreams come true.
 
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