New York programs with moonlighting

[Victorinox]

There are no recent threads on this, would be interested in hearing from residents in NYC about which programs allow/have opportunities to moonlight for their residents and fellows.

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[deleted171991]

How about you just train in a much cheaper area? NYC is for masochists, and it's not like they have the best programs.

 

[anbuitachi]

There are no recent threads on this, would be interested in hearing from residents in NYC about which programs allow/have opportunities to moonlight for their residents and fellows.

As far as I know, Downstate, Cornell, Columbia, Sinai all have moonlighting. (Opportunity wise I believe it is Sinai > Cornell > Columbia > Downstate, but could be wrong. Things are constantly changing)I dont know much about the other programs. When i interviewed years ago, i didn't remember hearing Maimonaides talk about moonlight. Also not sure about Einstein

I don't think fellows in ACGME accredited fellowships are allowed to moonlight as attendings.

 

[anbuitachi]

How about you just train in a much cheaper area? NYC is for masochists, and it's not like they have the best programs.

Haha, NYC has a very high concentration of top programs in a small area. Good for interviewing. Also, some residents have families/SO/kids in schools in NYC and they'd rather stay

 

[Victorinox]

Haha, NYC has a very high concentration of top programs in a small area. Good for interviewing. Also, some residents have families/SO/kids in schools in NYC and they'd rather stay

Thank you for answering the question
Are you aware of fellows moonlighting in the OR as trainees at these programs?

There was a post from a couple of years back about opportunities at Sinai, but no mention of Cornell or Columbia.

 

[anbuitachi]

Thank you for answering the question
Are you aware of fellows moonlighting in the OR as trainees at these programs?

There was a post from a couple of years back about opportunities at Sinai, but no mention of Cornell or Columbia.

Yes. i know of fellows who moonlight under attendings. If in non ACGME fellowship, can moonlight as attending. Most have 1 day a week or so of attending days to supplement your low income
Sinai has the most well known out of all the programs in NYC. Downstate started recently. Cornell was relatively recent as well. Columbia less well known.

 

[GigiBuffon]

How about you just train in a much cheaper area? NYC is for masochists, and it's not like they have the best programs.

What a useless answer. Why bother?

 

[GigiBuffon]

As far as I know, Downstate, Cornell, Columbia, Sinai all have moonlighting. (Opportunity wise I believe it is Sinai > Cornell > Columbia > Downstate, but could be wrong. Things are constantly changing)I dont know much about the other programs. When i interviewed years ago, i didn't remember hearing Maimonaides talk about moonlight. Also not sure about Einstein

I don't think fellows in ACGME accredited fellowships are allowed to moonlight as attendings.

You'd be wrong on that one. For example, at Cedars-Sinai, with all its ACGME accredited fellowships (Cardiac, Pain, OB), you have certain days you are allowed to moonlight as an attending in the main OR, as well as take first call on Saturdays and Sundays. In fact, it is only fellows on the weekends taking first call, for which you get a stipend.

 

[deleted171991]

What a useless answer. Why bother?

Said the useless member with 8 messages in 4 years.

I am not a big believer in moonlighting while training, except for preserving/gaining skills. It dilutes the training experience.

 

[anbuitachi]

You'd be wrong on that one. For example, at Cedars-Sinai, with all its ACGME accredited fellowships (Cardiac, Pain, OB), you have certain days you are allowed to moonlight as an attending in the main OR, as well as take first call on Saturdays and Sundays. In fact, it is only fellows on the weekends taking first call, for which you get a stipend.

Oh interesting, didn't know that.

 

[GigiBuffon]

Said the useless member with 8 messages in 4 years.

I am not a big believer in moonlighting while training, except for preserving/gaining skills. It dilutes the training experience.

Oh, cute, got your feelings hurt, big shot gold donor? 4700 messages! Looks like your best friend is the internet?

 

[deleted171991]

Oh, cute, got your feelings hurt, big shot gold donor? 4700 messages! Looks like your best friend is the internet?

I hope you feel better now. Don't forget the Viagra to show that you are the better man.

You can buy one of those badges for $40. Less money for booze, but it's for a good cause.

 

[bigdan]

...isn't Cedars-Sinai in LA? Did you mean Mt. Sinai?

 

[Victorinox]

...isn't Cedars-Sinai in LA? Did you mean Mt. Sinai?

Yes, I think he meant Mt. Sinai.

Thanks to all those who provided constructive contributions to this thread.

 

[GigiBuffon]

...isn't Cedars-Sinai in LA? Did you mean Mt. Sinai?

No, I meant Cedars-Sinai. I mentioned it because somebody else had written that ACGME fellows weren't allowed to moonlight, and I used Cedars-Sinai as an example that there is no such ACGME rule.

Good luck to the OP-- living in NYC is definitely an experience you'll remember.