No hot women in Med School? NOOOOOO

[pyroporphrin]

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There was a thread out there on good looking women in Medical School so I decided to create a new thread with reasons why you find none

here it goes

First of all there is no one out there that can deny that really hot women get
way more attention than one that is not. To enhance on this comment I will describe the hypothetical life of......Jennifer

Let?s go all the way back to high school..... Jennifer (just the hottest women I can think of right now) starts high school with dreams of becoming a doctor, however in the summer of her second year she blossoms into this incomparably hot, charismatic young women, all of a sudden her priorities at the very least get a little shifted. She not only gets attention from high school guys but as her circle of friend enhances she starts meeting college students and even doctors.

Her available time for studying is diminished and at an age in which most people are very easily indoctrinated she realizes that she could have all her desires met just because of her looks.....

Never the less, she still gets good grades and graduates high school with a very competitive GPA, most importantly she turns '18'......

College starts and she can not walk through a single hallway without man drewling over her.....

Finally of course Mr. Right (Ivy League school doctor) meets her and she decides to get married

She is beautiful, in love, very well off and happy

Excuse me if I am wrong but is very hard for the life of a stereotypically hot women to lead to 4 extra years of 24/7 studying and residency.

Now I hear some of you saying that there are some good looking women out there in medical school (even though I have not seen one) here are my speculations on the topic

1. Their high school sweet heart broke her heart and they have not been able to get over it.... uses school to eat up her time

2. Very psychologically unstable, unable to have any long lasting non futile relationship

3. Low self esteem

4. etc etc etc, a

I will probably get bombarded my negative comments but I believe that todays society as much as is driven by individual empowering fosters the notion that hot women have it made, good looks are all you need to get by and so on

Unfortunately this kind of sociological though process is the very one that leads to empty lives and broken homes....

Looks only get you so far and the sex is probably great, but that is as far as it goes

I am very happily married to an average looking women that makes every single second of my life unforgettable

hope this thread at the very least creates some discussion

 

[Alexander99]

I am very happily married to an average looking women that makes every single second of my life unforgettable

I just hope you don't use "I think you're an average looking woman" as pillowtalk with your wife. 😳

 

[Noeljan]

You can't be serious. Are you?

 

[ms2209]

How about a thread on how there are no Brad Pitt look-a-likes in med school either? 🙄

 

[terpgirl]

Okay, I'll be the first to bite. I've been told I'm hot on a constant basis, and have great measurements. So that's been established.

I didn't have someone break my heart and then throw myself into my work, nI am psychologically stable, and I have high self esteem.

Then why don't I just say yes to the next "hot" guy who asks me out, who is well off himself? Because I know better. And how so? You cannot rely on others for self-validation. No matter how many people think I'm pretty, it doesn't mean jack. I have to be happy with myself.

So if I go off and marry some filty rich drop dead gorgeous man, I suppose I'd never have to work again. I'd rather shoot myself. You can only sit at home for so long, and go shopping so much (I LOVE to shop, and drop a lot of money doing so, but when I tried to do it everyday for a week I got SO tired of it).

Some people refuse to allow others get in the way of thier ambitions. I refuse to be validated by being the wife of so-and-so, who themselves is successful.

I don't choose to look how I do. Stupid parents and genetics are at fault for that one. But I choose to do my best, and to do what I want to do to make me happy.

-Liz

 

[ms2209]

Okay, I'll be the first to bite. I've been told I'm hot on a constant basis, and have great measurements. So that's been established.

I didn't have someone break my heart and then throw myself into my work, nI am psycholotically stable, and I have high self esteem.

Then why don't I just say yes to the next "hot" guy who asks me out, who is well off himself? Because I know better. And how so? You cannot rely on others for self-validation. No matter how many people think I'm pretty, it doesn't mean jack. I have to be happy with myself.

So if I go off and marry some filty rich drop dead gorgeous man, I suppose I'd never have to work again. I'd rather shoot myself. You can only sit at home for so long, and go shopping so much (I LOVE to shop, and drop a lot of money doing so, but when I tried to do it everyday for a week I got SO tired of it).

Some people refuse to allow others get in the way of thier ambitions. I refuse to be validated by being the wife of so-and-so, who themselves is successful.

I don't choose to look how I do. Stupid parents and genetics are at fault for that one. But I choose to do my best, and to do what I want to do to make me happy.

-Liz

Here, here! 😀 👍

 

[TiggidyTooth]

Okay, I'll be the first to bite. I've been told I'm hot on a constant basis, and have great measurements. So that's been established.

I didn't have someone break my heart and then throw myself into my work, nI am psychologically stable, and I have high self esteem.

Then why don't I just say yes to the next "hot" guy who asks me out, who is well off himself? Because I know better. And how so? You cannot rely on others for self-validation. No matter how many people think I'm pretty, it doesn't mean jack. I have to be happy with myself.

So if I go off and marry some filty rich drop dead gorgeous man, I suppose I'd never have to work again. I'd rather shoot myself. You can only sit at home for so long, and go shopping so much (I LOVE to shop, and drop a lot of money doing so, but when I tried to do it everyday for a week I got SO tired of it).

Some people refuse to allow others get in the way of thier ambitions. I refuse to be validated by being the wife of so-and-so, who themselves is successful.

I don't choose to look how I do. Stupid parents and genetics are at fault for that one. But I choose to do my best, and to do what I want to do to make me happy.

-Liz

That's really sweet, and I commend you for your accomplishments and self-worth. However, I do believe that a lot (majority?) of women simply don't think the same way as you do. Many women want children, and careers and kids do not mix too well. Hotties who aren't necessarily into the career thing will quickly pick up a nice man who they love and is of course financially stable. It's the nature of the beast.

Tooth

 

[Noeljan]

Exactly Terp🙂
I was holding back as well, but just so you amazing premed men who apparently want to marry some good looking girl who will happily live off of his money and not work hard because the way she looks (I mean are you serious with this? And if so, you would seriously stay with a woman who claimed this?) I have also been told I look good. Sometimes I think I do, sometimes I don't. I DO wear PJs to school at times, with NO makeup. I HAVE even won beauty pageants, and WILL get dolled up when the event calls for. So men, get over it. Women can be pretty and smart, oh and NOT want to live off of you and in your shadows.

 

[elias514]

Hey terpgirl, where you gonna go for med school? 🙂

 

[TiggidyTooth]

Exactly Terp🙂
I was holding back as well, but just so you amazing premed men who apparently want to marry some good looking girl who will happily live off of his money and not work hard because the way she looks (I mean are you serious with this? And if so, you would seriously stay with a woman who claimed this?) I have also been told I look good. Sometimes I think I do, sometimes I don't. I DO wear PJs to school at times, with NO makeup. I HAVE even won beauty pageants, and WILL get dolled up when the event calls for. So men, get over it. Women can be pretty and smart, oh and NOT want to live off of you and in your shadows.

I don't think anyone here is trying to make the point that women can't be pretty and smart, it's the pretty, smart, highly motivated combination which is a rare find in medicine because of all the solitude, long hours, and lack of family life. Medicine is not a field either where beauty can be an asset as it is in say business (aka the apprentice). Ever watch discovery health? Ever seen a hot resident? To be a doctor you need to be at least a little nerdy, enjoying the solice of studying.

Tooth

 

[ms2209]

I don't think anyone here is trying to make the point that women can't be pretty and smart, it's the pretty, smart, highly motivated combination which is a rare find in medicine because of all the solitude, long hours, and lack of family life. Medicine is not a field either where beauty can be an asset as it is in say business (aka the apprentice). Ever watch discovery health? Ever seen a hot resident? To be a doctor you need to be at least a little nerdy, enjoying the solice of studying.

Tooth

What's your point? The same could be said about the men that go to med school, but as usual, it's the stereotype that women have to be the dolled up beautiful ones, and the men can get by on "just intelligence".

 

[TiggidyTooth]

What's your point? The same could be said about the men that go to med school, but as usual, it's the stereotype that women have to be the dolled up beautiful ones, and the men can get by on "just intelligence".

It's true, I think the same can be said about men in medicine, but men aren't rewarded for their looks like women are so a woman's life can be greatly influenced by the attention that is brought upon her because of her beauty. My previous point was just what I said, there do exist attractive women in medicine, and in all careers, it's just that in medicine they are a hard find.

Tooth

 

[Noeljan]

Tooth
There are a LOT of things women could do with their looks and because they can. Some women just go down different paths. In my experience I have found plenty of beautiful, intelligent and highly motivated people who are going to medical school. So it is not that surprising to me.
BTW, I watch resident life all the time and I find the one female resident to be very pretty (Pilar, the one who is married to another doc) Get her all dolled up to go out and I bet she would make some heads spin.
BTW, I think you boys need to be realize another thing, when you think of HOT you are most likely thinking of some actress or model. You have to remember the setting you see most people in. Of course people are not going to look they are on the red carpet in class. HELLO, they are in class. Give some of those people the makeup, hair, tigh clothes, etc and they will be right up there!

 

[coffeeluver]

Tooth
BTW, I watch resident life all the time and I find the one female resident to be very pretty (Pilar, the one who is married to another doc) Get her all dolled up to go out and I bet she would make some heads spin.

Yeah, she's really cute and I can't believe how fugly her husband is. GROSS!

 

[TiggidyTooth]

Tooth
There are a LOT of things women could do with their looks and because they can. Some women just go down different paths. In my experience I have found plenty of beautiful, intelligent and highly motivated people who are going to medical school. So it is not that surprising to me.
BTW, I watch resident life all the time and I find the one female resident to be very pretty (Pilar, the one who is married to another doc) Get her all dolled up to go out and I bet she would make some heads spin.
BTW, I think you boys need to be realize another thing, when you think of HOT you are most likely thinking of some actress or model. You have to remember the setting you see most people in. Of course people are not going to look they are on the red carpet in class. HELLO, they are in class. Give some of those people the makeup, hair, tigh clothes, etc and they will be right up there!

Look, this has nothing to do with how someone dresses when they are in class 4 hours a day. Beautiful people always look pleasant. Ever here the tail that you know you are in the presence of a beautiful woman if she still looks great when she gets out of bed? In my experience there is a void of beautiful people (both men and women but I pay attention to the women) attempting to get into medicine. By and large I thought that most were generally dorks. I have come across the diamonds in the rough but this is generally what I have come across to be true

 

[Noeljan]

Well Tooth
I will just have to disagree with you.

 

[ms2209]

It's true, I think the same can be said about men in medicine, but men aren't rewarded for their looks like women are so a woman's life can be greatly influenced by the attention that is brought upon her because of her beauty. My previous point was just what I said, there do exist attractive women in medicine, and in all careers, it's just that in medicine they are a hard find.

Tooth

I disagree that women are rewarded for their looks. If, by reward, you mean some skeezy guys drooling over you, then perhaps you're right. However, often times, being attractive can be a negative thing if you're trying to be taken seriously or respected (as a woman).

 

[terpgirl]

elias514--I'm not sure, I'm applying next application cycle. But, I really really want to go to Hopkins (I've been a patient there my entire life, and can't imagine being anywhere else--I LOVE the place!) 🙂 I currently am at the University of Maryland College Park, studying for a degree in Human Sexuality and Reproduction.

-Liz

 

[TiggidyTooth]

I disagree that women are rewarded for their looks. If, by reward, you mean some skeezy guys drooling over you, then perhaps you're right. However, often times, being attractive can be a negative thing if you're trying to be taken seriously or respected (as a woman).

I meant rewarding as being able to enter certain social circles, using looks to promote careers, marrying well, etc, etc. Of course women get a nice boost for being hot and your being naive to suggest that this dosen't happen. Look at the wives of professional athletes or many of the successful women in business (martha stewart was a model!!). It is very real. Now, I can appreciate the negativity that being attractive may bring, but there exist very benificial gains as well.

Tooth

 

[FoxyDoc]

It is possible to be hot AND in med school. I agree that it is not always a good thing. In some of my clinical experiences I have indeed been taken less than seriously. The "hot girls" actually have to work harder to prove to others what they know. For example, one of the attendings actually told me that he didn't think I would make a good Psychiatrist because I was too attractive and patients would leave my office feeling worse about themselves. He said this with a straight face and elaborated that some depressed older woman would come in and see this "barbie doll like creature" (his words not mine) and go home feeling even more depressed than when she came in. He actually said all of this with a serious face too!
It's not easy being hot, intelligent, motivated, and successful!

P.S. the original poster's comment about his wife being an average looking woman is just plain rude...I hope she doesn't read his posts! Even if it is true, men should know better than to EVER describe the woman in their lives as average looking.

 

[Alexander99]

It is possible to be hot AND in med school. I agree that it is not always a good thing. In some of my clinical experiences I have indeed been taken less than seriously. The "hot girls" actually have to work harder to prove to others what they know. For example, one of the attendings actually told me that he didn't think I would make a good Psychiatrist because I was too attractive and patients would leave my office feeling worse about themselves. He said this with a straight face and elaborated that some depressed older woman would come in and see this "barbie doll like creature" (his words not mine) and go home feeling even more depressed than when she came in. He actually said all of this with a serious face too!
It's not easy being hot, intelligent, motivated, and successful!

P.S. the original poster's comment about his wife being an average looking woman is just plain rude...I hope she doesn't read his posts! Even if it is true, men should know better than to EVER describe the woman in their lives as average looking.

LMAO! That's the most hilarious thing I've ever heard! So what does that doctor suggest is the ideal female psychiatrist? One that's obscenely hideous so that a female patient can come in and instantly feel better about herself and the way she looks?

Are you sure it wasn't just his way of trying to get into them panties?

 

[TiggidyTooth]

It is possible to be hot AND in med school. I agree that it is not always a good thing. In some of my clinical experiences I have indeed been taken less than seriously. The "hot girls" actually have to work harder to prove to others what they know. For example, one of the attendings actually told me that he didn't think I would make a good Psychiatrist because I was too attractive and patients would leave my office feeling worse about themselves. He said this with a straight face and elaborated that some depressed older woman would come in and see this "barbie doll like creature" (his words not mine) and go home feeling even more depressed than when she came in. He actually said all of this with a serious face too!
It's not easy being hot, intelligent, motivated, and successful!

P.S. the original poster's comment about his wife being an average looking woman is just plain rude...I hope she doesn't read his posts! Even if it is true, men should know better than to EVER describe the woman in their lives as average looking.

Of course it's possible to be hot and in medical school, it's just rare. And as far as being hot, intelligent and successful...please, it's not like your the first generation from poverty stricken immigrants farming corn with your hands just so you can eat. There are much more difficult traits to overcome so don't bother asking for pity cause you have a nice fanny.

Tooth

 

[terpgirl]

I am very happily married to an average looking women that makes every single second of my life unforgettable

She may be "average looking", but my curiosity is sparked.. how ugly are YOU? I'm thinking it was HER who settled, not the OP...

Just my 2 cents 😀

-Liz

 

[FoxyDoc]

Originally posted by TiggidyTooth
Of course it's possible to be hot and in medical school, it's just rare. And as far as being hot, intelligent and successful...please, it's not like your the first generation from poverty stricken immigrants farming corn with your hands just so you can eat. There are much more difficult traits to overcome so don't bother asking for pity cause you have a nice fanny.

You have forgotten that I also have a nice rack, And I am second generation from poverty stricken immigrants farming for corn! So no, I really don't deserve that much pity!

 

[TiggidyTooth]

Originally posted by TiggidyTooth
Of course it's possible to be hot and in medical school, it's just rare. And as far as being hot, intelligent and successful...please, it's not like your the first generation from poverty stricken immigrants farming corn with your hands just so you can eat. There are much more difficult traits to overcome so don't bother asking for pity cause you have a nice fanny.

You have forgotten that I also have a nice rack, And I am second generation from poverty stricken immigrants farming for corn! So no, I really don't deserve that much pity!

Well, I'm glad we could agree on something. By the way, would you be kind enough to pm me a pic my sweet? 🙂

Tooth

 

[jlee9531]

i dont think its that hard to find women that are hot, smart and on their way to becoming a physician.

or im just the luckiest person in the world to have found one.

 

[Fish3715]

It's not easy being hot, intelligent, motivated, and successful!

Here, here! 😀

 

[donuthole]

Please see my "Solution" thread....I think it will resolve all of your anxieties about ugly pre-med women.

 

[N-toxicologist]

No hot chicks in med school? Then I'm not going! (kidding) I've been told I'm hot, too (liars, all of 'em), but let's look at this another way: let's say I've always been average-looking, and didn't get the same attention all the pretty girls got. So how will I stand out? Of course, I will be smarter and more powerful than most, and since medicine/science doesn't really depend on looks, that's the way I'll go.

Here's another thought: with such a heavy course load, do we really have time to pretty up before class? I mean, I don't need layers of makeup or anything, but I just don't have time to curl my hair every morning, wear eye makeup, mess with mascara, etc. No sir, not when I spend 5 hrs. in a lab for one crummy credit hour. So, there's probably plenty of hot chicks out there (pre-med and med), that's just not what they spend all their time on, so it's not quite as obvious. See these same girls at a special occasion, and you'll think differently. 😍

 

[pyroporphrin]

Let me start by saying that most women are average looking and having your mother tell you how good you look does not make you hot.

The women I am talking about are not beautiful wome (my wife is very beautiful) I am talking about hot women.... like Brooke Burks, Carmen Electra, Beyonce Knowles.... hot women.... not cute or good looking and so on and on

The fact is that we all love attention and the more you get it and at the earlisest you start getting it the more all other things mean to you

I am very ugly, but I am in love with my wife like I never though possible and I love medicine and hope to be a great doctor and humanitarian some day

 

[Alexander99]

having your mother tell you how good you look does not make you hot.

Hilarious! We should add this quote along with, "Getting hit on by horny drunk guys at bars doesn't make you hot."

 

[terpgirl]

Here's another thought: with such a heavy course load, do we really have time to pretty up before class? I mean, I don't need layers of makeup or anything, but I just don't have time to curl my hair every morning, wear eye makeup, mess with mascara, etc. No sir, not when I spend 5 hrs. in a lab for one crummy credit hour. So, there's probably plenty of hot chicks out there (pre-med and med), that's just not what they spend all their time on, so it's not quite as obvious. See these same girls at a special occasion, and you'll think differently. 😍

I agree with that one. 8 am classes, I walked out of my dorm at 7:40 to hike across campus in sweats and sneaks, still looking all adorable. Then you see these chicks in stilletos they can't walk even, pounds of make-up visable from a mile away and showing more skin than a cheap hooker. It makes you wonder why they put so much time into looking like a tramp when the sun is barely up.

You're not truly hot or gorgeous when you have to spend hours to look that way. Rolling out of bed, throwing on something that actually covers what God gave you, and making it look good is what's beautiful. Sexy is only sexy when you're not working your butt off 24/7 to be thatt way.

Being confident you don't look like the campus ho isn't such a bad thing.

-Liz

-Liz

 

[kaikai128]

I think that all of you guys should be appreciative of the women who are "pre-meds." Regardless of the looks of the women (Some ARE hot, some are not)...at least you know that these women are not just going to school for their "MRS." degree rather than BA, BS, MD, DO, MS, etc. Many of the "hot" girls that I know who are in other fields and take a lot of time on their looks are out looking to be a wife...if that is what you want...go for it. I, for one, know that I would never be happy finding someone who just wants to marry me bacause I will have money in the future.

 

[Noeljan]

No offense to Beyone, Carmen, Brittney etc....but boys you will NEVER see them roll out of bed, so you have NO idea what they would look like minus stylists, makeup artists, lighting, etc. I have seen pics of a few of them before they hit the big time, and not anything more than I have seen of most other halfway ok looking girls. You guys need a reality check if you think the way the stars look on TV is reality of what they would look like getting out of bed at 7am and coming to class that way! Sorry, don't buy it.

 

[pyroporphrin]

Noel it seems that you are exerting yourself to prove something, I can not get my finger on it, anyway, those women are just examples that are familiar to all.

I personally know tons of women that look much better than any of those three and hot women don't have to work hard to look hot

 

[terpgirl]

Let me start by saying that most women are average looking and having your mother tell you how good you look does not make you hot.

The women I am talking about are not beautiful wome (my wife is very beautiful) I am talking about hot women.... like Brooke Burks, Carmen Electra, Beyonce Knowles.... hot women.... not cute or good looking and so on and on

The fact is that we all love attention and the more you get it and at the earlisest you start getting it the more all other things mean to you

I am very ugly, but I am in love with my wife like I never though possible and I love medicine and hope to be a great doctor and humanitarian some day

See, here's what I always find funny. These ugly men, who think they're all that, believe they're entitled to a perfect 10 of a woman. They don't get one, they whine and complain. And then go on and bash women when they should be looking to fix their own inadequacies. It's always those who are NOT good looking that go on to harass those who have it. The last people in the world who should judge are the ones that do.

I love how to OP goes from "my wife is average looking" to "my wife is beautiful". You're married, and as I woman I find it disrespectful that you even started a thread with this title. It's implied by this title that you are disappointed that there are no hot women in med school. You say you're happy with your wife, but then start this BS? Please. Such boorish behavior.

Furthermore, there are quite a few "hot women" who aren't really such in real life. Peel off those layers of make-up and it's horrifying. If they weren't held in such high esteem, when we would pass them on the street many wouldn't even give a second glance.

-Liz

 

[terpgirl]

Noel it seems that you are exerting yourself to prove something, I can not get my finger on it, anyway, those women are just examples that are familiar to all.

I personally know tons of women that look much better than any of those three and hot women don't have to work hard to look hot

Be careful what you start--you're talking yourself into circles and can't fully defend your statements. You started this to prove something, and the only thing I can put my finger on it to being is that you're an ugly guy who was rejected by a gorgeous girl and is seeking a twisted form of validation in such.

More power to you Noeljan. Why is it that we have to defend our beauty as females?

-Liz

 

[crazygal]

Exactly TerpGirl.......I am in the same exact boat. I do admit that it took me a while to realize the whole self-validation thing, and I have, at times, used my looks to my advantage (i.e. free drinks ) But you can definitely find a happy medium in terms of studying, socializing, going out, etc. Additionally, I just graduated summa from a noted university and will be attending medical school in the fall. And none of that was due to my looks!

 

[Noeljan]

Liz/Terp, I could not have said it better🙂
Pyro, honestly what are you trying to say? If you want to see me just email me and I will be glad to show you. I have nothing to hide, and have posted my pic in the lounge quite a few times.
PS
liz, I was responding to your first post as you were to mine🙂

 

[nina512]

I do think there are women out there that don't need the layers of makup to be hot...it's called having great skin.

What about the Olsen twins or the Hiltons? If you have great skin and killer bone structure, you're probably hot w/out the make-up.

If there's a girl pre-med out there who's that pretty God bless America!

The same can be said for guys...if there's a premed who look like David Beckam 'dreamy dreamy sigh' Is that even possible? Am I asking for too much?

Nina 😳

 

[Noeljan]

Nina you seem like a nice woman,
but no one (including you Alex!!) can really imply the beauty or lack of any of us, without knowing us. That is all I am saying.
Good luck.
PS I don't even find many actors cute so they don't do it for me anyways. Then again the guys I find hot are not the same guys my friends find hot so😉

 

[Indebt4Life]

I am sorry to say..but I am sick and tired of reading all these stupid forums on beauty and brains and women. What is beauty anyway? These days beauty = millions of dollars on cosmetic surgery. Every single celebrity in the business has had something done and these are the men and women (yes, men are doing plastic surgery too!!) that define beauty because we (average looking people) look up to them and compare ourselves.

So, beauty is not all natural and god gifted. Any average looking girl can be Britney or Pam these days. Stars that people perceive as gorgeous are so done up it is not funny. Take for instance Halle Berry (she was disgusting before nose job, buccal fat removal, chin and jawline redone, hairline laser removal) OR the beautiful Catherine Zeta Jones (she has done so much surgery I can't list it all) or Elizabeth Hurley(Did you see what she looked like before?). Go to www.awfulplasticsurgery.com and you will know what I mean.

Now, reality TV shows like Extreme makeover, swan and Iwantafamousface are doing it to average people. Have you seen the changes? These shows are so unhealthy for a pubescent teenager that is unhappy with herself or himself.

The point guys is this: Don't feel the need to spend thousands on surgery! Beauty is within!!!

 

[JunkintheTrunk]

hey, i'm going to med school: screw you guys!!!!! *KISS IT SUCKAS*

 

[Rendar5]

hey, i'm going to med school: screw you guys!!!!! *KISS IT SUCKAS*

as you command!
mwah!

 

[Indebt4Life]

I think Jennifer dumped your ass back in highschool even though you kept trying to convince her that you were going to make lots of money to support her and when you are with your "average looking wife" ..you call out her name. Oh! Jenny. Do it to me! Yes.
"Jenny, the most beautiful name in the world--Forrest Gump." HA HA HA

 

[pyroporphrin]

That is just good comedy!!!
What is OP by the way?

 

[Indebt4Life]

OP = original poster. And that would be you!

 

[canada]

That's really sweet, and I commend you for your accomplishments and self-worth. However, I do believe that a lot (majority?) of women simply don't think the same way as you do. Many women want children, and careers and kids do not mix too well. Hotties who aren't necessarily into the career thing will quickly pick up a nice man who they love and is of course financially stable. It's the nature of the beast.

Tooth

i agree with this

 

[jlee9531]

OP = original poster. And that would be you!

 

[SunnyS81]

I'm a heterosexual guy, but I get the feeling that every guy expects everywhere they go to be like the Playboy Mansion. Guys in my med school all say, "the girls here aren't hot," but then they'll say, 'The girl at my undergrad weren't hot."

So where was the standard established? High school.

I guess teh legal age is 16 in Michigan...........hmmm.......