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Should I be worried? I just feel like I am never going to get one, and I know it sounds stupid but we've all been there. I thought my app was really strong, but it looks like it's just average.
 
ltownson said:
Should I be worried? I just feel like I am never going to get one, and I know it sounds stupid but we've all been there. I thought my app was really strong, but it looks like it's just average.
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I understand how you feel 100%. And unfortunately, the feeling only gets worst. Try to find something in the meantime to take your mind off of things! Interviews usually come when you expect them less
 
It’s still very early. Many schools have barely started reviewing apps. Some may not have started at all. Many schools take some weeks off during the summer and then start fresh about now.

Did you have a smart app list? Did you apply to all of your instate publics? If your list has a number of OOS publics, you might consider quickly adding some more privates (ones that are appropriate for your stats).

Last year a student complained about no IIs and then when her app list was revealed it was totally crazy. She had a 509 MCAT, and her rather short list had Harvard, Yale, only one of her instate publics (her state has several public SOMs), and a few OOS publics. No wonder no one interviewed her.
 
ltownson said:
Should I be worried? I just feel like I am never going to get one, and I know it sounds stupid but we've all been there. I thought my app was really strong, but it looks like it's just average.
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Patience is a virtue, the need for instant gratification is not.

Schools stratify the apps as they come in and don't send out IIs merely in chronological order.
 
Keep in mind that most of us have full-time clinical and/or research and/or teaching responsibilities, and July and August are tough months for us. Between the OR, my baseline church/community obligations, and wanting to be a reasonably un-horrible husband/father, I'm just now starting to make a dent on the stack of applications I have to review. Patience, young grasshopper.
 
HomeSkool said:
Keep in mind that most of us have full-time clinical and/or research and/or teaching responsibilities, and July and August are tough months for us. Between the OR, my baseline church/community obligations, and wanting to be a reasonably un-horrible husband/father, I'm just now starting to make a dent on the stack of applications I have to review. Patience, young grasshopper.
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Aren’t you an anaesthesiologist? Just read them during “work” 😉
 
HomeSkool said:
Keep in mind that most of us have full-time clinical and/or research and/or teaching responsibilities, and July and August are tough months for us. Between the OR, my baseline church/community obligations, and wanting to be a reasonably un-horrible husband/father, I'm just now starting to make a dent on the stack of applications I have to review. Patience, young grasshopper.
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Lucca said:
Aren’t you an anaesthesiologist? Just read them during “work” 😉
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 
gonnif said:
Some schools havent even started meeting on applications.
-Schools receive 5,000-10,000 application but can only evaluate several hundred applications a week. Therefore, it can take 12 weeks or more to be evaluated, reviewed and invited for interview.


********AMCAS 2019 Timeline Summary (post count #024)************
-AMCAS May 2, 2018, Primary application opens up. Can send formal requests for transcripts from your schools and letter requests to your letter writers.
-AMCAS May 31, 2018, Completed primary applications with all ECs, PS, and course information can be submitted. You enter the verification queue only when both completed primary application and all transcripts have been received.
-AMCAS does not, repeat, does not verify LOR or MCAT score. Your primary application will be verified regardless of LOR or MCAT score status
-AMCAS June 29, 2018, begins transmission verified applications (though some schools have secondaries sent to contact info upon submission to AMCAS)
-Verification peak is about August 1st and takes 20 days
-Most Primary Apps are transmitted early July thru early September
-Secondaries timelines can vary widely as to when to they are sent out from almost immediately upon submissions to 3 months, though most are in the range 1-3 weeks after transmission.
-Letters via AMCAS are processed/transmitted separately from primary
-Letters can be added after primary has been submitted and transmitted and are mostly not needed until secondary reviews at the earliest.
-There are usually 3 main phases in processing application
----1) Initial Screening/Evaluation: A hybrid of automatic GPA/MCAT screen plus human for "quick review" of application. Used to for general priority and, in some cases, which team/subcommittee gets application. In some cases preset criteria can lead to II.
----2)Full Evaluation: This is where evaluator/reader/team/subcommittee will fully evaluate all sections of primary, secondary, and LOR and generally summarize in broad categories or point system. This essentially becomes your priority for adcom review and II. This function may be split up among several evaluators and may go to a team or subcommittee for II decision. Application are not typically evaluated until complete with Primary, Secondary, MCAT, and LOR
----3) Full adcom: this is where your fully evaluated application is reviewed and voted on by adcom for II on later on for acceptance/WL/rejection
-Application and candidate evaluations timeline varies widely by school may not done in a linear, chronological order. EDP, High achievers, URM, family of alumni, feeder schools, associated UG programs, linked postbaccs, and other factor may push an app forward in the process.
-Most adcoms dont start meeting for review of evaluated applicants until at least mid-August, more likely September, though some reviews may be done earlier for groups mentioned above. Evaluation may start almost immediately at schools.
-Schools receive 5,000-10,000 application but can only evaluate several hundred applications a week. Therefore, it can take 12 weeks or more to be evaluated, reviewed and invited for interview.
-Schools must reduce several thousand applications to several hundred interviews. Therefore 80% of applicants at any individual school must be rejected pre-interview.
-Submitting Primary Application June is Early, July Medium, August Late
-Having Primary verified and transmitted to school by end of August is normal speed
-Having Secondary and all LORs complete to school by Labor Day is early/ontime. By late or end of September is about middle/normal speed, by end of October is about late.
--After that point you will generally start getting impacted by the number of applications submitted, the finite number of interview slots, and seats given by rolling admissions. These aren’t absolute dates nor is it a fixed timeline. It should be used as a guideline

Getting primary in on time does matter because of all the other items that follow it. But applicants often see the beginning and not understanding how it flows from there. Additionally, how each school then opens a file, reviews them on GPA, MCAT, and other factors, and what order they wind up in a queue has less to do with when the primary arrives then when the secondary is completed and received. Since the majority of schools, I dare say, send out pre-transmission, unscreened, or minimal cut off screened secondaries, this is probably a larger factor in where you wind up in the queue for 1) reading an application and 2) decision on interview invite. As I have said previously, and will undoubtedly say dozens of time during this 2019 application cycle (see count above) review of apps is not simply done in a linear chronological order. High achievers, URM, family of alumni, feeder schools, associated UG programs, linked postbaccs, and other factor may push an app forward in the process.
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I feel like this post really should be stickied if possible. I swear I search to find this post every other day and plenty of the posts on this forum would be answered by it
 
freedoctor17 said:
He's shared that he's an anesthesiologist before haha. I think he has a thread about it as well.

But the British spy thing is much cooler so let's just go with that.
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I was referring to the spelling. And the person I quoted was @Lucca who is an MD/PhD applicant lol.
 
gonnif said:
Oh, its been stickied. But apparently premed minds are like Teflon: nothing sticks to them
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Or they're too lazy to bother reading the stickies. Despite having 1000s of hours of research experience, many of these people can't be bothered to actually research their intended profession with one of the best resources available for free!
 
Still not a single II....getting sad. I know it takes a while I'm just impatient and want to know what is so wishy-washy about my application. 🙁 any advice from anyone that got in later or didn't get an II right away?
 
abcdeltaforce said:
Still not a single II....getting sad. I know it takes a while I'm just impatient and want to know what is so wishy-washy about my application. 🙁 any advice from anyone that got in later or didn't get an II right away?
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Chill!! It’s way too early to be brooding.

Is your app list sound? Are your stats and app strong? Did you apply to schools that are already offering a number of IIs?
 
MedicineN'Jazz said:
Lolololololol says the medical student. I love how quick everyone forgets how anxiety ridden we once were
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I haven't forgotten. I could never forget.
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I interviewed at my med school in November and got accepted in May. The cycle is long and stressful. Take a deep breath, it will be okay.
 
In all seriousness, it is too early to worry about interviews. I'm not going to tell you not to worry because I'm a worrier and that would be hypocritical. But I will tell you that I didn't get my first interview until late December and know people who didn't get any until late in the spring. I say trust the numbers and trust your preparation. If you've prepared your application well you're far more likely than not to get accepted (per AAMC charts). If there's still nothing by November-ish, then consider reevaluating in terms of next steps.
 
I had zero MD interviews from August to November. I then eventually had 3 from December to February. I’ve had several classmates tell me their interviews were in mid March.
 
bananafish94 said:
In all seriousness, it is too early to worry about interviews. I'm not going to tell you not to worry because I'm a worrier and that would be hypocritical. But I will tell you that I didn't get my first interview until late December and know people who didn't get any until late in the spring. I say trust the numbers and trust your preparation. If you've prepared your application well you're far more likely than not to get accepted (per AAMC charts). If there's still nothing by November-ish, then consider reevaluating in terms of next steps.
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Yeah I mean you’re definitely right. It’s harder to remember that when you see a lot of your friends get IIs and you don’t hear anything. But it’s a long process, and people get evaluated at different times. Gotta keep that in mind.
 
Reminder to not come onto SDN during my application cycle. 🙄

Gosh you guys are stressing yourselves out. No reason to stress. If you get IIs great, there's even more screening afterwards. If you don't get IIs by Thanksgiving, prepare yourself for a gap year. No reason to stress about something that has yet to happen.

Enjoy the summer, hang out with friends, and continue your ECs.
 
Sunbodi said:
Reminder to not come onto SDN during my application cycle. 🙄

Gosh you guys are stressing yourselves out. No reason to stress. If you get IIs great, there's even more screening afterwards. If you don't get IIs by Thanksgiving, prepare yourself for a gap year. No reason to stress about something that has yet to happen.

Enjoy the summer, hang out with friends, and continue your ECs.
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Please come back and let us know how completely stress free you are during your cycle.
 
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