non-trad acceptance rates

[mafunk]

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I went to mdapplicants.com, Check out acceptance rates by age.
Obviously this is NOT scientific, but I thought it was interesting

21-25 yrs - 8457 applicants, 5624 accepted (66.5%)
26-30 yrs - 1176 applicants, 774 accepted (65.8%)
31-40yrs - 334 applicants, 213 accepted (63.7%)
41yrs+ - 37 applicants, 20 accepted (54.0%)

From AACOM (read entire report)
Overall, 45 percent of respondents were not offered admission to any osteopathic college and 55 percent of respondents received at
least one offer of admission. The mean number of offers of admissions to respondents who were offered admission to an osteopathic medical college was 1.73. Thirty-six percent of all respondents enrolled in an osteopathic school, and the remaining 19 percent of those who were offered admission did not enroll. Sixty-five percent of those offered admission enrolled in an osteopathic medical college. Further examination of those
applicants who were offered admission to an osteopathic medical school but did not enroll tells us that 83 percent of these applicants, who represent 15 percent of our total applicant pool, matriculated in a U.S. allopathic medical school.The mean total MCAT score of those respondents who were offered osteopathic medical school admission (regardless of whether they enrolled) was 27.3; higher than the mean total score of 24.7 for those respondents who were not admitted to an osteopathic medical school.Mean total GPA was 3.50 for those applicants who were offered admission to osteopathic
medical schools; slightly lower than the mean GPA (3.56) of respondents who were offered admission to a U.S. allopathic medical school. Respondents who were denied admission to an osteopathic medical school had a mean GPA of 3.32 compared to 3.39
for respondents who were denied admission to the U.S. allopathic medical schools to which they applied.

 

[Law2Doc]

I went to mdapplicants.com, Check out acceptance rates by age.
Obviously this is NOT scientific, but I thought it was interesting

21-25 yrs - 8457 applicants, 5624 accepted (66.5%)
26-30 yrs - 1176 applicants, 774 accepted (65.8%)
31-40yrs - 334 applicants, 213 accepted (63.7%)
41yrs+ - 37 applicants, 20 accepted (54.0%)

From AACOM (read entire report)
Overall, 45 percent of respondents were not offered admission to any osteopathic college and 55 percent of respondents received at
least one offer of admission. The mean number of offers of admissions to respondents who were offered admission to an osteopathic medical college was 1.73. Thirty-six percent of all respondents enrolled in an osteopathic school, and the remaining 19 percent of those who were offered admission did not enroll. Sixty-five percent of those offered admission enrolled in an osteopathic medical college. Further examination of those
applicants who were offered admission to an osteopathic medical school but did not enroll tells us that 83 percent of these applicants, who represent 15 percent of our total applicant pool, matriculated in a U.S. allopathic medical school.The mean total MCAT score of those respondents who were offered osteopathic medical school admission (regardless of whether they enrolled) was 27.3; higher than the mean total score of 24.7 for those respondents who were not admitted to an osteopathic medical school.Mean total GPA was 3.50 for those applicants who were offered admission to osteopathic
medical schools; slightly lower than the mean GPA (3.56) of respondents who were offered admission to a U.S. allopathic medical school. Respondents who were denied admission to an osteopathic medical school had a mean GPA of 3.32 compared to 3.39
for respondents who were denied admission to the U.S. allopathic medical schools to which they applied.

You do realize that there are differences in those groups besides age that could easily explain the difference though? The older crowd may not have been competitive for med school when they graduated so there is a lot of grade rehabilitation the further out you go which may explain the drop off. Similarly someone taking the MCAT 15 years after they originally took biology might score lower than someone still in college who just finished it. Or perhaps there is less career counseling for the older crowd the further out you go such that a greater percentage of nonqualified nontrads apply. Or (and I actually think this is a biggie), the older the group is, the more roots they have to a particular community, such that a 25 year old may be able to apply to 50 med schools across the country while an older nontrad, due to spouses job, kids in school etc, may be limited to a handful of local schools.
So don't fall into the trap of thinking this data has to do with age. It might, but the data you provided has so many other possible explanations that it's not particularly persuasive.

 

[akinetopsia]

With the mdapplicants.com data, you also have to consider the scores/GPAs are self-reported and not reliable. If they were reliable, you'd have to consider the people reporting there are self-selecting and could be more successful and thus more likely to share their stats online than your "average" nontrad applicant. There are nontrads applying with lower GPAs and less competitive MCATs that don't get accepted anywhere.

Why would people lie on the internet? You mean every guy isn't 6'4 with washboard abs and an exotic girlfriend?

 

[dawgbone]

Completed: Marine Corps Marathon 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010

I was there at the finish line cheering you on in 2008. Awesome experience.

 

[akinetopsia]

That's why I keep going back year after year. This year will be my fifth in a row, I'm running for charity. You wouldn't happen to be one of the Marine officers putting medals around finisher's necks, would you? If so, thank you for your service!

 

[mafunk]

I went to mdapplicants.com, Check out acceptance rates by age.
Obviously this is NOT scientific, but I thought it was interesting

Notice the mention of NOT scientific

MdAppliants do report GPA and MCAT

That non-trads have a lower acceptance rate would be expected due to age discrimination according to what I've heard. I was actually stoked that the non-trad acceptance rates were so good.

 

[Law2Doc]

...

That non-trads have a lower acceptance rate would be expected due to age discrimination according to what I've heard. ...

While this may occur to a small degree, I think it's not particularly widespread, and a lot of reports of age discrimination are from folks who may have had totally unrelated reasons to not get the nod.

 

[Pons Asinorum]

While this may occur to a small degree, I think it's not particularly widespread, and a lot of reports of age discrimination are from folks who may have had totally unrelated reasons to not get the nod.

I agree. I think there is a definite correlation/causation misunderstanding going on with that line of thinking. I think "age discrimination" is a convenient scapegoat for some more narrow problems with individual applicants.

 

[dawgbone]

You wouldn't happen to be one of the Marine officers putting medals around finisher's necks, would you?

Yep, I was. One of my favorite memories from my time in Quantico.