nova and specializing

[qwertyu12345]

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are there any specialties which students would be at a disadvantage in getting into by going to nova besides surgery? also if i wanted to subspecialize after getting into internal medicine for example, how i would i fare?

 

[FrkyBgStok]

Nova will set you up with everything you need to get any residency you want. It is up to you to succeed.

 

[qwertyu12345]

are you sure, i hear they have rural rotations in a time which can interfere with getting into certain residencies for example

 

[ILikeFood]

are you sure, i hear they have rural rotations in a time which can interfere with getting into certain residencies for example

If you want DO residencies, ANY DO residency in ANY specialty, audition rotations are important and therefore having two months blocked means 2-4 audition rotations you cannot do.

For MD residencies, it doesn't affect you at all because they do not interview people based on who has rotated at their site.

I already said it in the thread: July is always open for everyone, meaning that if you want a letter from a specialty rotation, you have the opportunity of obtaining one before you head off to a primary care clinic to practice medicine on the ungrateful Spanish-only speaking medicaid population.

 

[xajtx]

If you want DO residencies, ANY DO residency in ANY specialty, audition rotations are important and therefore having two months blocked means 2-4 audition rotations you cannot do.

For MD residencies, it doesn't affect you at all because they do not interview people based on who has rotated at their site.

I already said it in the thread: July is always open for everyone, meaning that if you want a letter from a specialty rotation, you have the opportunity of obtaining one before you head off to a primary care clinic to practice medicine on the ungrateful Spanish-only speaking medicaid population.

I was not aware that MD residencies do NOT interview people based on who has rotated at their site. Does it basically depend on Step 1 scores and LORs then? This has definitely made me rethink my doubts towards NSU. I'm assuming there isn't really a difference between MD and DO residencies; what I really care about is being able to obtain the residency I want in the specialty I want at the location I want (hopefully).

Is it possible to do elective rotations in CA your 4th year at NSU?

 

[ILikeFood]

I was not aware that MD residencies do NOT interview people who have rotated at their site.

No, no, no...MD programs will interview you whether you have rotated at their site or not.

DO programs will NOT interview you unless you've rotated at their site, whether you have the numbers or not.

This has definitely made me rethink my doubts towards NSU. I'm assuming their isn't really a difference between MD and DO residencies; what I really care about is being able to obtain the residency I want in the specialty I want at the location I want (hopefully).

Doesn't everybody?

Is it possible to do elective rotations in CA your 4th year at NSU?

I've spent a significant amount of time writing responses to your questions and I feel like I've answered this one. YES.

 

[judasreznor]

No, no, no...MD programs will interview you whether you have rotated at their site or not.

DO programs will NOT interview you unless you've rotated at their site, whether you have the numbers or not.

I have heard very differently on this matter. It is highly encouraged, but not rotating doesn't mean that you're not going to get an interview automatically.

 

[LesBois88]

DO programs will NOT interview you unless you've rotated at their site, whether you have the numbers or not.

Yeah, uh, nope.

 

[FrkyBgStok]

OP- no med school is going to set you up to keep you out of specialties. They will provide every tool like every other med school in the US. It is up to you to get the grades and board scores to get the interviews, but you will be able to go into surgery if you go to nova. I work with a 3rd year surgical resident from nsu.

 

[AACmd]

How likely is it that a Nova grad will match into an allopathic internal medicine? How difficult is it to get into a sub-specialty of your choice (like medical onc or interventional cario?) Or is every sub specialty different that way?

 

[FrkyBgStok]

Very likely, but it depends on the residency. How likely will you get AN internal medicine allo residency, very good. An ultra competitive one probably isn't going to happen, but assuming your education can back it up, meaning grades, it is likely you could get into a competitive enough residency to get a fellowship. This depends on a lot of factors though.

 

[xajtx]

Very likely, but it depends on the residency. How likely will you get AN internal medicine allo residency, very good. An ultra competitive one probably isn't going to happen, but assuming your education can back it up, meaning grades, it is likely you could get into a competitive enough residency to get a fellowship. This depends on a lot of factors though.

I'm curious, once you've entered a residency in internal medicine and decide to specialize and apply for a fellowship, how competitive is that and what factors are used to determine whether or not one is able to obtain that fellowship?

 

[ILikeFood]

I have heard very differently on this matter. It is highly encouraged, but not rotating doesn't mean that you're not going to get an interview automatically.

My mistake then.

The DME where I am emphasizes it as a must for the S. Florida programs, especially with the Mt Sinai EM program or the Broward Ortho program. That may not be the case at other DO programs/specialties.

 

[LesBois88]

I'm curious, once you've entered a residency in internal medicine and decide to specialize and apply for a fellowship, how competitive is that and what factors are used to determine whether or not one is able to obtain that fellowship?

Its varied. Some are less competitive (nephrology for example) and some are very competitive (GI, etc).

Factors used here include your performance during residency, letters of recommendation, and board scores to some extent. Many places have a strong bias towards their own internal med residents when it comes to fellowship selection.

 

[FrkyBgStok]

+1 above. I have heard that if you want to go to a competitive fellowship, like cards for example, go to a residency that has a cards fellowship. And if you go to a crappy IM residency or one considered stagnant, you are likely going to have a lot more problems.

 

[Kuba]

The misinformation in this thread makes my head hurt... too painful to try and correct.

 

[ILikeFood]

The misinformation in this thread makes my head hurt... too painful to try and correct.

Do tell. I'm only a 3rd year here and don't claim to know everything. If there's something you know that might help, please correct whatever I or anyone else has said.

 

[Mbeas]

do tell. I'm only a 3rd year here and don't claim to know everything. If there's something you know that might help, please correct whatever i or anyone else has said.

+1

 

[DarkHorizon]

The misinformation in this thread makes my head hurt... too painful to try and correct.

I know you matched at a program without rotating, but even you accept that its more of an anomaly than norm. More than 80% of DO ortho programs want you to rotate before they even extend an interview to you, Every single ENT and URO program wants you to rotate except may be one.

Now with knowing that, who will have the upper hand, kid from DMU who gets two electives in third year and 28 weeks of electives in any field in 4th year.... or kid from Nova who has no electives in 3rd year and sept/oct rurals with only 8-12 weeks to work with in these fields?

 

[ILikeFood]

See, that's what I don't understand about some alums.

I spent a lot of time on here as a premed looking for details about schools. Real details, that gave me a better picture of what the school was really about and a lot of what I found is what Kuba says about NSU. "I'm happy here. It's a great school." Okay, but what does that mean?

I've spent a lot of time these past two years occassionally posting about NSU, sometimes in great, great detail. It doesn't mean I've had an awful experience, or that you can't do this or do that, or that you can't be happy here. I'm simply stating some of the more frustrating aspects about my experience and that you shouldn't come here expecting a platter of gold handed to you.

He has two years on me, everyones asking about NSU, and all he has to post is

The misinformation in this thread makes my head hurt... too painful to try and correct.

So correct me, or others. If I'm wrong, I can take it.

 

[ILikeFood]

Not to mention that everyone freaks out when I write about everything in detail. Stop freaking out and take in the information and process it for godssake.

Or you can go to the school that you have a gut feeling about and everyone says is awesome.

"But why is it awesome?"
"I have no ****ING clue@!"

 

[DarkHorizon]

Have to agree with ilikefood, nova is probably a top 10 DO school however it has it's downsides and I think they should be talked about along with the good stuff

 

[FrkyBgStok]

The misinformation in this thread makes my head hurt... too painful to try and correct.

please tell. my answers were from what i have found on here and extrapolating from what others say. if i am wrong it would be very nice to know that.

 

[Kuba]

DO programs will NOT interview you unless you've rotated at their site, whether you have the numbers or not.
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This is BS. This is frankly untrue in even the most competitive specialties. This only holds true if you are only talking about applicants who aren't competitive to begin with. Matching is a little closer with ultra-competitive DO specialties requiring rotations. However, things like EM, surgery, etc you can certainly match at places you did not rotate.

By the way, this whole reaction make me laugh, because when I was a 3rd year at Nova, my classmates and I are were furious about the rural rotations being placed during audition rotations (mine were Nov/Dec.) I would have come here at that time and responded the same way you did probably. Then we went through the process, and we all realized it didn't affect us much. Actually, Nov/Dec were great months to have rurals because I got to go on as many interview as I needed to without missing a day form an audition rotation. I went on 14 interviews, only rotated at 3 of those as a student, and yes, I matched at a competitive program without rotating.