Nova question

[mustymullet]

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Hey guys, anyone that is applying or is a Nova Southeastern medical student know what they mean by wanting a letter from an osteopathic physician? I saw that on their website. Does it have to be a DO physician or could you have shadowed an MD physician? I'm really interested in applying there next year and i just wanted to know, thanks🙂

 

[ryandote]

Hey guys, anyone that is applying or is a Nova Southeastern medical student know what they mean by wanting a letter from an osteopathic physician? I saw that on their website. Does it have to be a DO physician or could you have shadowed an MD physician? I'm really interested in applying there next year and i just wanted to know, thanks🙂

A DO is a Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine. If they ask for a letter from a DO, you probably aren't going to make the cut with and MD letter (I assume that shadowing means you'll get a letter from him?)

BTW, if you are asking this question because you don't understand the difference between MD and DO, that is something you might look into before you apply.

 

[Powdermonkey]

Yeah, basically, MDs practice medicine, and DOs ride brooms and practice their own version of voodoo made popular by Andrew Taylor Still way back when.

So MD doesnot= DO. Wtf do you mean, what does wanting a letter from a DO mean? Are you that dense?

Do a search n00b. Sheesh.....

 

[mustymullet]

i already know the differences between the two!! im just wondering because on one page of the website it says "osteopathic physician letter" then on another page it says "letter from physician". i already knew DOs are different because they center on a holistic approach, geez😡

Yeah, basically, MDs practice medicine, and DOs ride brooms and practice their own version of voodoo made popular by Andrew Taylor Still way back when.

So MD doesnot= DO. Wtf do you mean, what does wanting a letter from a DO mean? Are you that dense?

Do a search n00b. Sheesh.....

 

[ryandote]

i already know the differences between the two!! im just wondering because on one page of the website it says "osteopathic physician letter" then on another page it says "letter from physician". i already knew DOs are different because they center on a holistic approach, geez😡

Did you just write "holistic" in the same sentence as physician? Read up again, dude. And pay attention this time.

To answer your question, either get a letter from a DO (makes sense, I guess, Nova is a DO school) or CALL SOMEBODY. Tomorrow, though, because nobody will be at the office right now.

(Holistic? Are you kidding me? You should start over with a new username.)

 

[Powdermonkey]

Hmm, well, since we are not NOVA, a better choice would be:

1. call NOVA and ask them ( what a concept....)
2. ask in the osteopathic forum since its an osteopathic school. The nice folks there would be more likely to know.

Plus, if it says you need a DO letter, you will probably need one. Kinda late to be planning for it.... But go find one you can shadow for a day or two so you can get a letter for chrissakes. Like, now. Chop, chop!

 

[Powdermonkey]

(Holistic? Are you kidding me? You should start over with a new username.)

hahahahaha, yeah, I didnt evan want to touch that one. I dont feel like typing that much. Lol. Thats funny. You do need to read up some more mullet man.

 

[ryandote]

I had a MolBio lab TA in undergrad who was always wanting to talk to me about plans for applying to medical school. He never really expounded on his, and he was a little goofy. I didn't think much of it until one of the last days of class when he told me he had finally settled on a program.

"Yeah, it's a little program in Wisconsin... not all corporate like some of the bigger medical schools. Plus I can get my chiropractor's license and my Doctor of Holistic Medicine (or some crap like that) in just under 2 years if I go full time!"

Sweetness.

 

[Powdermonkey]

Hmm... doctorate of holistic medicine vs. MD/DO. Not quite the same. But he will have a chiropractic degree too. So he'll be a super quack. Just what we need.....

 

[mustymullet]

i was only asking a question and all i get is two egotistic MD lovers insulting my intelligence...

 

[Revenant]

i was only asking a question and all i get is two egotistic MD lovers insulting my intelligence...

Your own posts insult your intelligence. There's a "DO" forum marked clearly.

Didn't see anyone bashing DO's here either. Imagining things?

 

[ryandote]

i was only asking a question and all i get is two egotistic MD lovers insulting my intelligence...

Actually, it is "physician lovers" - which would include both MD's and DO's, but would definitely leave anything labelled "holistic" out.

The answer to your question is to call NOVA. A small piece of advice is to post in the appropriate forum. A large piece of advice is to understand things like DO, MD, holistic medicine before you consider medicine, much less apply to medical school.

Consider my egomania rescinded and accept my sincerest "good luck."

 

[Phoenix.]

Moving to the Pre-Osteopathic Forum.

 

[Collide]

I really didn't get the impression that the OP was confusing holistic "physicians" with a DO. I think what he was trying to imply is that DO's have a more holistic ("human being as a whole, with a variety of different dimensions that affect the whole (e.g. physical, emotional, etc.).") approach than what MD's might. Anyway, if the school wants a LOR from a DO, then it would be wise to have one. 🙂

 

[CuttinEmUp]

Since every answer to your Q came attached with an insult, I'll go ahead and answer it again...

Along with your letters of rec., make sure one of them is from a D.O., either that you have worked for, personally know, perhaps shadowed for a while, or at least had the opportunity to speak to about osteopathic medicine with and who is willing to write you a confident LOR.


Good Luck on getting an interview, Nova is a GREAT school!👍

 

[Eudjinn]

I got invited for an interview and my date is 11/9. Nova invited me without having any of my LOR's. I could not shadow a DO, but I did have two MD LOR's. It doesn't make sense to me that NSU would invite for an interview and then say "woops you don't have a DO letter so no entry for you." Will it really work that way?

Quoted directly from #4 Admissions Requirement from their Admissions web page...

"A letter from a physician is required with your application. "

They do not seem to specify that the physician needs to NOT be allopathic.

 

[CuttinEmUp]

I got invited for an interview and my date is 11/9. Nova invited me without having any of my LOR's. I could not shadow a DO, but I did have two MD LOR's. It doesn't make sense to me that NSU would invite for an interview and then say "woops you don't have a DO letter so no entry for you." Will it really work that way?

Quoted directly from #4 Admissions Requirement from their Admissions web page...

"A letter from a physician is required with your application. "

They do not seem to specify that the physician needs to NOT be allopathic.

well if you got invited without having ANY of your LOR's in, then by your reasoning, I guess that just means you dont have to have any LOR's whatsoever?😉😛

The assumption is that you will complete the LOR requirements by the time decisions are made.

Good Luck on your interview

 

[Collide]

Since every answer to your Q came attached with an insult, I'll go ahead and answer it again...

Along with your letters of rec., make sure one of them is from a D.O., either that you have worked for, personally know, perhaps shadowed for a while, or at least had the opportunity to speak to about osteopathic medicine with and who is willing to write you a confident LOR.


Good Luck on getting an interview, Nova is a GREAT school!👍

Hey! I think you mean most answers came attached with an insult--mine sure didn't. 🙂 Ok, enough whining 😛 I just didn't wanna get blamed for something I didn't do. 😉

 

[Jpc984]

well if you got invited without having ANY of your LOR's in, then by your reasoning, I guess that just means you dont have to have any LOR's whatsoever?😉😛

The assumption is that you will complete the LOR requirements by the time decisions are made.

Good Luck on your interview

I think they said all your LORs have to be in by the interview.

 

[Powdermonkey]

i was only asking a question and all i get is two egotistic MD lovers insulting my intelligence...

Haha, well you do have to admit, your question was a little silly. Plus you posted it in the pre-allo forum where the pre MD students reside. If I had a question about a DO school, I would probably want to ask in the pre-DO forum. Just a thought.

Oh, and I am not an egotistical MD lover as you call me. I am applying to both MD and DO schools, and hope to get in to a medical school that fits me. Be it MD or DO.

Honestly, why would you ask a bunch of neurotic premedsa question that needs to be answered by the school you are applying to? Thats what we were ragging on you about.

Anyways, like it has already been said, I wish you the best of luck applying! 🙂 Hopefully we can both get in this year.

 

[NewAndImproved]

You can interview without a DO letter but the admissions committee making the final decision will not discuss your application until they have received one from you.

 

[HemaOncoDoc]

You can interview without a DO letter but the admissions committee making the final decision will not discuss your application until they have received one from you.

Also, having a strong DO letter before the interview is only to your advantage. You don't want them to question your knowledge of the osteopathic profession.

 

[TexasTriathlete]

A letter from a yoga instructor can often be substituted for a letter from an osteopathic physician.

 

[ellinopedo182]

i had a letter from an MD, that may be why they put me on the waitlist. hmm.

 

[CuttinEmUp]

just to clarify, I am pretty sure on our applicant admission requirements Nova lists " a letter from a physician" .. and they don't specify that it MUST be a DO. However, it would greatly aid your application to have a solid letter from an osteopathic physician. In addition, it would strengthen and demonstrate the other criteria that is listed as part of the commitee reccomendation

"The Committee on Admissions recommends applicants to the Dean on the basis of demonstrated academic excellence, leadership, compassion, and commitment to the osteopathic medical profession."

So I'm sure as bright premeds you can figure out how it would appear much more appropriate to have a D.O. letter!

You should also read in that line- knowledge of the profession - as well. Just as a tidbit of information for applicants....just TODAY I was talking with one of our professors who does interviews, and she commented about how ill-prepared some applicants are/how little they know of the osteopathic profession. During that conversation she further mentioned how much better it is to have a D.O. write your LOR (especially one that you have worked with or shadowed for some length of time).

 

[Jpc984]

Good points! I think the best way to show you understand the osteopathic philosophy is to define it in a personal way, not just the common, "I like holistic medicine, and think OMM is good". I try to use analogies at the interviews, and they all comment on them.

 

[doinmybest5840]

Don't listen to these tools, I got in with an MD letter.

(FYI: only the second half of that sentence is serious. I'm not actually calling everyone in here a tool.)

 

[HemaOncoDoc]

I whole-heartedly agree with my fellow M1 😀

During my application process, a letter from a DO was a requirement. However, the revision as of June 2007 states, " '...a letter from a physician...' " (CuttinEmUp)

Do yourself a service and research about what it means to be a DO. The common terms thrown around are "holistic, whole body, and all encompassing..." Though these are "good" words to use, they don't describe fully what it means to be a DO. I had done a great deal of research before my interviews about the DO profession and the trials it had gone through. Your schools may ask you to demonstrate your knowledge. At NSU, if you have Dr. Tu as an interviewer, without doubt, he will ask you "who is the father of osteopathy?"

We're all "Type A obsessive compulsive individuals," so put as much effort (if not more) into preparing to go on interviews as you did for your coursework and the MCAT.

Okay enough from me.

just to clarify, I am pretty sure on our applicant admission requirements Nova lists " a letter from a physician" .. and they don't specify that it MUST be a DO. However, it would greatly aid your application to have a solid letter from an osteopathic physician. In addition, it would strengthen and demonstrate the other criteria that is listed as part of the commitee reccomendation

"The Committee on Admissions recommends applicants to the Dean on the basis of demonstrated academic excellence, leadership, compassion, and commitment to the osteopathic medical profession."

So I'm sure as bright premeds you can figure out how it would appear much more appropriate to have a D.O. letter!

You should also read in that line- knowledge of the profession - as well. Just as a tidbit of information for applicants....just TODAY I was talking with one of our professors who does interviews, and she commented about how ill-prepared some applicants are/how little they know of the osteopathic profession. During that conversation she further mentioned how much better it is to have a D.O. write your LOR (especially one that you have worked with or shadowed for some length of time).