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nick_coronado

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I reapplied to Nova this year. I called two months ago to see whether they wanted to interview or not. I was told that they weren't interested in interviewing, but that they would keep me in mind if someone who got accepted did not wish to attend.

Um.....ok. What does that mean? I got rejected, right? So where's my rejection letter? The first time I applied to Nova I got an interview, AND THEN a rejection letter. Now I just get a....I don't know what other than we don't want to interview.

Does anyone have any ideas?
 
Were you rejected outright last year or waitlisted? Did you make any significant improvements to your app? If so, write a letter stating your intent and explaining why you are a more competitive and ideal applicant this time. Good luck...stay on em' ...show your interest...
 
did they tell you why they rejected you last year? if they did, defenitely send them a letter letting them know how you improved. good luck!
 
I think it means if someone who is accepted decides to not attend, they will consider you for an interview, but I'm not sure. It SOUNDS like you have been placed on hold and not outright rejected. A letter of intent stating how interested you are in their school, and the ways in which you have improved your appl, you be appropriate at this time.

Good luck, man. I feel your pain as a fellow reapplicant.
 
Well, I originally applied in 2000. I was never able to reapply until this year. (It's a long story. My wife and I were in a horrible financial situation. So I made the decision that reapplying to med school was not a priority. What was a priority was finding meaningful emplyment, and a place to live).

In 2003 I started a master's in science in computer info. systems. One of the reasons they said that I wasn't accepted in 2000 was because my sciences were weak. So I'm a year into this degree, and have taken some very hard science courses. My GPA is a 3.97 compared to an undergrad of like 3.1.

So I definitely impproved there. The bad thing was that my MCAT scores went down. When I retook the exam I had just gotten laid off from work. Well, I was scared. Not only was I the sole support for my wife and me, but now we had a daughter to support.

My wife and I had dealt with having no place to live before. But this was different. Not having any income, and supporting a kid is an entirely different game. Well, I bombed the exam.

I didn't expect to do that well in the sciences. I just didn't remember a lot of the material, and studying for the MCAT, working full-time, going to grad school, and babysitting your kid while the wife is at work makes it very difficult to get all that information in your head.

The first time I took the exam I got a 15 on the verbal. This time I got a 9. The other scores were average. I always do well on verbal, because I read a lot. But this time I think I was too darn distracted, and it effected me.

So I didn't get an interview base on the new MCAT score. I was told that the first one was impressive, but that they had to take into account the second one. The second one was shoddy.

So do I write a letter of intent, or will they just look at it and think, "Hey, we already told you we didn't want you. What is this?"
 
I was accepted to NSU and gave up my seat recently so I hope that helps someone who really wants it like you. I think the letter you need to write is not a letter of intent but rather an update letter. Try and improve any and all holes in your application, have you shadowed a DO? Have you done any more volunteer work since you completed application? Is there any employer, teacher, or physician who you have met since application that can write you a very strong letter? Is there anything you left out of your application that you think can help you?
On another note, did you apply to other schools? It sounds like you have a rather solid application so maybe you should think about other schools as well. I wish you luck; your tenacity will get you to where you want to be.
 
nick_coronado said:
Well, I originally applied in 2000. I was never able to reapply until this year. (It's a long story. My wife and I were in a horrible financial situation. So I made the decision that reapplying to med school was not a priority. What was a priority was finding meaningful emplyment, and a place to live).

In 2003 I started a master's in science in computer info. systems. One of the reasons they said that I wasn't accepted in 2000 was because my sciences were weak. So I'm a year into this degree, and have taken some very hard science courses. My GPA is a 3.97 compared to an undergrad of like 3.1.

So I definitely impproved there. The bad thing was that my MCAT scores went down. When I retook the exam I had just gotten laid off from work. Well, I was scared. Not only was I the sole support for my wife and me, but now we had a daughter to support.

My wife and I had dealt with having no place to live before. But this was different. Not having any income, and supporting a kid is an entirely different game. Well, I bombed the exam.

I didn't expect to do that well in the sciences. I just didn't remember a lot of the material, and studying for the MCAT, working full-time, going to grad school, and babysitting your kid while the wife is at work makes it very difficult to get all that information in your head.

The first time I took the exam I got a 15 on the verbal. This time I got a 9. The other scores were average. I always do well on verbal, because I read a lot. But this time I think I was too darn distracted, and it effected me.

So I didn't get an interview base on the new MCAT score. I was told that the first one was impressive, but that they had to take into account the second one. The second one was shoddy.

So do I write a letter of intent, or will they just look at it and think, "Hey, we already told you we didn't want you. What is this?"

If your above statement is completely true...I guess reading a lot has no effect on one's writing ability 🙄
 
wow, thats a pretty impressive story. im very surprised that you did not get an interview from them. i think that being a reapplicant with a pretty solid score (unless you got below 5 on the other sections), solid gpa, and having a lot of life experience deserves at least a chance at an interview...which brings me to a disturbing yet maybe possible scenario...maybe theyre uneasy about your situation, having had trouble with money, family, and being able to handle med school. i know tons of people are in school with families and stuff but maybe theyre just unsure about your situation. im not really sure...something to think about though.
 
haujun said:
If your above statement is completely true...I guess reading a lot has no effect on one's writing ability 🙄

dont be an ass. he's looking for advice, not some punk ass reply.
 
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That's okay. You have to get used to replies like that.

I was only able to apply to Nova, and one other school this year. Since I got laid off I haven't been able to find a job that pays me the equivalent of what my last job paid. I wasn't making all that much, but times are tough in the computer field.

It's very much like medical school. You have tons of applicants for one particular position. They can be very picky. Where I worked the tech position started out at 11 an hour. When a position opened up we had folks with master's degrees and years of experience applying. It was horrifying.

If it doesn't work out this year, then there's always next year. Or the year after, etc. My life doesn't start when med school starts. It started when I got married and became responsible for more than my own life. So I'll just develop more in the computer field, and make my application look more impressive.
 
Who really knows what they think? They could be thinking that "...it's great this guy has weathered so many storms." Or they could think that, "...why have so many storms hit one guy? Coincindence, or poor planning? Is the guy a basket case? Can he make it? Will he make it? Can we take the chance?"

I'm not really too worried about what they think. It can go either way. I'm still a worthwhile human being whether a committee thinks I'm good enough or not. I've been told by some family members that I'd never graduate high school, finish college, etc. Well, I did all those things.

So life keeps going forward. You make little improvements each go around in the application cycle. I figure that eventually they'll get tired of seeing my name, and they'll accept my application. Or maybe they'll just change their address and phone number..... 🙂
 
you've got an awesome attitude! it's true that you dont know what they think and youre right to not let it get to you. youll get your break soon, you know what they say, good things come to those who wait 😉
 
nick_coronado said:
The first time I took the exam I got a 15 on the verbal. This time I got a 9. The other scores were average. I always do well on verbal, because I read a lot. But this time I think I was too darn distracted, and it effected me.

So I didn't get an interview base on the new MCAT score. I was told that the first one was impressive, but that they had to take into account the second one. The second one was shoddy.

I thought an average score on the MCAT was around an 8. If you scored 8s, thats hardly shoddy. With the rest of your app being what it is, I would think you wouldn't have too much difficulty getting accepted, assuming you apply to a good amount of schools. Have you heard from the other school you applied to this year?

Do you have your heart set on NSU because you don't want to move your family?

Good luck to you :luck:
 
nick_coronado said:
That's okay. You have to get used to replies like that.

I was only able to apply to Nova, and one other school this year. Since I got laid off I haven't been able to find a job that pays me the equivalent of what my last job paid. I wasn't making all that much, but times are tough in the computer field.

It's very much like medical school. You have tons of applicants for one particular position. They can be very picky. Where I worked the tech position started out at 11 an hour. When a position opened up we had folks with master's degrees and years of experience applying. It was horrifying.

If it doesn't work out this year, then there's always next year. Or the year after, etc. My life doesn't start when med school starts. It started when I got married and became responsible for more than my own life. So I'll just develop more in the computer field, and make my application look more impressive.



Great Story. And i would bet that this is going to end as a great success story.
Just like what Donald Trump says "to be successful you have to learn to walk through concrete" And man you are walking through concrete and would end up successful.
What do punks on this forum know about life (including me), you have seen what the real life is.
I can see you being a great doctor one day because you have gone through all that pain of life and will know exactly what your pateint is going through. When you become some famous doctor at some Ivy league school try to give it back to the community (And of course don't forget my name as you may be interviewing me for some scrapy technician job under you )
:laugh:


Check on AACOMAS website if you can get AACOMAS Fee Waiver so you can apply to more schools.

Good Luck.
 
I think you write and communicate well. We all know about insecure people pulling others down so we will ignore the troll.

I really think your story is rather inspiring and I think you have a solid application from what I have read, assuming you communicated your story and experiences effectively in application. But, only applying to one school is like pulling on the handle on a slot machine and I think you deserve better. Scrounge up some spare change and apply to a couple more schools is the best advice I can give you.

Good luck and keep us updated.
 
I've also given up my seat at Nova. Maybe that will help a future applicant/waitlisted applicant as well.
 
Thanks all for the encouraging words.
If nothing happens for 2005, then I'll reapply to more schools for 2006. The problem is the following:

Due to a registration mistake I had to take two 8-week classes for the fall semester over at my grad school. My wife is a pharmacy tech. We can't afford a babysitter. I had just gotten on with a contract where I used to work doing software testing.

It averaged about 20 hrs. a week, and with my wife working and sharing babysitting duties we could handle it. Well, she had two ovarian cysts, which burst. She developed a fever, which was brought under control with antibiotics.

The strange thing was that she's had burst cysts before. This time the pain did not go away. Her obgyn suggested it was endometrioses. She suggested she have surgery. Since she works part-time she has really funky insurance. The docs wanted 1000 bucks up front before they did the surgery.

At the same time I got into a dispute where I worked, and they broke my contract. So I had no money coming in, and she hadn't worked since the cysts. So.... no money there.

She couldn't work, and was in constant need of painkillers. So all our money went for those. Our local church thankfully gave us the money for the surgery, and she went in for it today.

The bad part is that it wasn't endometrioses. The doc thinks that the pain is somewhere in her bowels. So, when she gets home today she'll be on more painkillers. Where do we go from here? I have no clue.

My point is that when going through circumstances such as these it's very tough to find or justify 50 dollars on a supplemental app. What I should have done is filed paperwork for financial hardship for the application cycle. But when the cycle started I was doing fairly well.

I like S. Fl because I was born and raised there. All my family lives there. I went to the Tampa/Clearwater area (where I live now) for college. I like it up here, but we have no support structure. My wife's family is around here, but they aren't real close. So today, for instance, I didn't have anyone to watch my daughter. So I've been running back and forth to the hospital with her. In S. Fl I could just leave her with my mom, grandma, or sis, and be all set.

What these circumstances have made me want to do is practice medicine in very underrepresented areas. It's stinks to have little access to good medical care. Sometimes no matter what you do, or how well you plan, disaster strikes. You need help, and can't find it. Money talks. That's the bottom line. But what if you have no money? Then you really have no voice. Or very little of one.

I went from wanting an expensive car, and a big home to wanting a car that works, and any home. My priorities have really changed. I've been looked down upon because I've had to ask for help, or because I was in a position wherein I had no choice but to receive help. I want succeed as a doc, but then use that to inspire others to keep going forward.

****LEGAL DISCLAIMER******

The above post was not spell checked or grammatically scrutinized. It contains various errors in it and is not a correct representation of the intellect of the poster. :meanie:
 
nick_coronado said:
Thanks all for the encouraging words.
If nothing happens for 2005, then I'll reapply to more schools for 2006. The problem is the following:

Due to a registration mistake I had to take two 8-week classes for the fall semester over at my grad school. My wife is a pharmacy tech. We can't afford a babysitter. I had just gotten on with a contract where I used to work doing software testing.

It averaged about 20 hrs. a week, and with my wife working and sharing babysitting duties we could handle it. Well, she had two ovarian cysts, which burst. She developed a fever, which was brought under control with antibiotics.

The strange thing was that she's had burst cysts before. This time the pain did not go away. Her obgyn suggested it was endometrioses. She suggested she have surgery. Since she works part-time she has really funky insurance. The docs wanted 1000 bucks up front before they did the surgery.

At the same time I got into a dispute where I worked, and they broke my contract. So I had no money coming in, and she hadn't worked since the cysts. So.... no money there.

She couldn't work, and was in constant need of painkillers. So all our money went for those. Our local church thankfully gave us the money for the surgery, and she went in for it today.

The bad part is that it wasn't endometrioses. The doc thinks that the pain is somewhere in her bowels. So, when she gets home today she'll be on more painkillers. Where do we go from here? I have no clue.

My point is that when going through circumstances such as these it's very tough to find or justify 50 dollars on a supplemental app. What I should have done is filed paperwork for financial hardship for the application cycle. But when the cycle started I was doing fairly well.

I like S. Fl because I was born and raised there. All my family lives there. I went to the Tampa/Clearwater area (where I live now) for college. I like it up here, but we have no support structure. My wife's family is around here, but they aren't real close. So today, for instance, I didn't have anyone to watch my daughter. So I've been running back and forth to the hospital with her. In S. Fl I could just leave her with my mom, grandma, or sis, and be all set.

What these circumstances have made me want to do is practice medicine in very underrepresented areas. It's stinks to have little access to good medical care. Sometimes no matter what you do, or how well you plan, disaster strikes. You need help, and can't find it. Money talks. That's the bottom line. But what if you have no money? Then you really have no voice. Or very little of one.

I went from wanting an expensive car, and a big home to wanting a car that works, and any home. My priorities have really changed. I've been looked down upon because I've had to ask for help, or because I was in a position wherein I had no choice but to receive help. I want succeed as a doc, but then use that to inspire others to keep going forward.

****LEGAL DISCLAIMER******

The above post was not spell checked or grammatically scrutinized. It contains various errors in it and is not a correct representation of the intellect of the poster. :meanie:

I am sorry you are experiencing this "hardship"...You stated that you want to work in underrepresented areas and inspire others as a doctor. I hope you understand that this hardship that you are experiencing may not be a hardship for others and it appears that your motivation to become a doctor is actually external and superficial and indicate a response or coping mechanism to a unfortunate situation. It is obvious that onced you become a doctor and experience a change of situation your priorities may change back...

And to fin-nor and others who like to write a troll and take things personally and like to pour gasoline on a small fire...perhaps you all need to stop taking things too seriously, chill, and stop using this stupid word "troll" to deal with people who do not fit your expectations. Are you going to call your patients a troll because their words do not respect you???
 
ur and idiot... did u not read his blatant put-down reply? how did it contribute to the dude's topic? if it were in the context of a constructive criticism that helped his question, then i wouldnt have said anything.

btw, i didnt even say the word troll so you can take your comment elsewhere.
 
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Fin-Nor said:
ur and idiot... did u not read his blatant put-down reply? how did it contribute to the dude's topic?

your's seem to running the same route.

Your response to his so called blantant comment appears to be far more offensive and childish!!!

I am 😎
Ur ugly. :laugh:
 
Fin-Nor said:
ur and idiot... did u not read his blatant put-down reply? how did it contribute to the dude's topic? if it were in the context of a constructive criticism that helped his question, then i wouldnt have said anything.

btw, i didnt even say the word troll so you can take your comment elsewhere.
Ah smart you edited your evil response...You idiot 🙄 I didn't accuse you writing a troll. READ my thread and read Nate's response. Are you stupid? Don't answer that, I know.
 
emidesu said:
Ah smart you edited your evil response...You idiot 🙄 I didn't accuse you writing a troll. READ my thread and read Nate's response. Are you stupid? Don't answer that, I know.

You both need to grow up and quit calling eachother names..sticks and stones...... 😉
 
emidesu said:
Ah smart you edited your evil response...You idiot 🙄 I didn't accuse you writing a troll. READ my thread and read Nate's response. Are you stupid? Don't answer that, I know.


lol, this dude's funny... where does he come up with these original replies.
 
I called the person who wrote this

"If your above statement is completely true...I guess reading a lot has no effect on one's writing ability "

a troll.

This is because he had nothing to add to the topic or conversation other than to try and drag someone down anyway he could.

Are you defending this person?

Just one more thing, emidesu, you wrote that "It is obvious that onced you become a doctor and experience a change of situation your priorities may change back". Just who is this obvious to?
 
I guess HAUJUN wrote that because he did not believe the poster's assertion about 15 verbal score. You can't believe everything on things you read... 😱
 
who cares if he believed it or not... still does not pertain to the OP's question at hand.
 
If you are going to pick apart all of the incredible assertions made on this public forum you are starting in the wrong forum and you may need to hire a 100 bulldozer crew to help you shovel the ****.

Anyway, the point is that "Haujun" made no contribution to the discussion and had no positive motive in making that post.
 
Nate said:
If you are going to pick apart all of the incredible assertions made on this public forum you are starting in the wrong forum and you may need to hire a 100 bulldozer crew to help you shovel the ****.

Anyway, the point is that "Haujun" made no contribution to the discussion and had no positive motive in making that post.

Just because his comment was sarcastic you cannot assume that it was not contributory. You just don't know that. Moreover, does the act of calling someone a troll bring any kind of contribution to this forum or this $%#^ website. You are a hypocrite.

Are you for censorship?

I know you did not start a medical school yet but here is a point:

Are you going to rule out myocardial infarction (heart attack) because patient is young and has no chest pain??? Do you know that the young diabetic patient can present atypical heart attack symptoms...like vomiting and nausea.You will be fried for assuming that some symptoms are not contributory to MI. You can kill someone. Words we use to convey ideas are not only black and white. They are very colorful and reducing them into form of your hypocritic judgements of contributory and non-contributory bring injustice to human intelligence.
 
emidesu said:
Just because his comment was sarcastic you cannot assume that it was not contributory. You just don't know that. Moreover, does the act of calling someone a troll bring any kind of contribution to this forum or this $%#^ website. You are a hypocrite.

Are you for censorship?

I know you did not start a medical school yet but here is a point:

Are you going to rule out myocardial infarction (heart attack) because patient is young and has no chest pain??? Do you know that the young diabetic patient can present atypical heart attack symptoms...like vomiting and nausea.You will be fried for assuming that some symptoms are not contributory to MI. You can kill someone. Words we use to convey ideas are not only black and white. They are very colorful and reducing them into form of your hypocritic judgements of contributory and non-contributory bring injustice to human intelligence.

Nate is going to kill his patients because he called someone a troll??? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 
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medic170 said:
Nate is going to kill his patients because he called someone a troll??? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Your reasoning skill is like a typical premed student. 😀
 
emidesu said:
I am sorry you are experiencing this "hardship"...You stated that you want to work in underrepresented areas and inspire others as a doctor. I hope you understand that this hardship that you are experiencing may not be a hardship for others and it appears that your motivation to become a doctor is actually external and superficial and indicate a response or coping mechanism to a unfortunate situation. It is obvious that onced you become a doctor and experience a change of situation your priorities may change back...

And to fin-nor and others who like to write a troll and take things personally and like to pour gasoline on a small fire...perhaps you all need to stop taking things too seriously, chill, and stop using this stupid word "troll" to deal with people who do not fit your expectations. Are you going to call your patients a troll because their words do not respect you???

My original desire to be a physician has not changed. I've always wanted to help others. I felt that the best way for me to do that was as a physician. It's a desire that I can't really express with just a few sentences. It's also a desire that has found a further expression through the various hardships I've gone through.

But you're right, there are some that have gone through worse and may not consider this a harship. They may consider this just another day in their life. And let's say that my life becomes "normal" for a long period of time. Let's say I become a success as a physician. Will I then become an egotistical jerk? That all depends....was I an egotistical jerk before these hardships? I don't think that I was.

I'm not all that different as a person. I'm just more patient, and more resolved to not define myself by someone else's standards. I'm also more apt to not so quickly judge someone because they are in a bad financial situation. I think that before I was quick to point and say "Look, that's why you are poor. It's because you did this or that." Now that may or may not be true, but I'm quicker to help someone or look to solutions than point fingers.
 
Hello everyone,

I don't know how it happened- maybe I left a computer without signing out- but the above posts were written by someone other than me. I just discovered them. I'm not into ad hominem attacks!
 
Hello everyone,

I don't know how it happened- maybe I left a computer without signing out- but the above posts were written by someone other than me. I just discovered them. I'm not into ad hominem attacks!

Those comments were from 2.2 years ago (2004)! :laugh: