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Please compare pharmacy school to nursing school. (Nursing school was crazy). I did the accelerated BSN.
Do pharmacy schools accept A&P 1&2 from nursing?
Are you glad to be switching to pharmacy? IMHO, nursing is just too stressful.
Do you think pharmacy as a career is as stressful as nursing?
 
njamah said:
Please compare pharmacy school to nursing school. (Nursing school was crazy). I did the accelerated BSN.
Do pharmacy schools accept A&P 1&2 from nursing?
Are you glad to be switching to pharmacy? IMHO, nursing is just too stressful.
Do you think pharmacy as a career is as stressful as nursing?
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I am not a nurse, but I have a friend who is, and she is one of the folks who excels in the coursework. She appears happy with her choice of profession...
 
I was in an accelerated nursing program before I went to pharmacy school, and I can honestly say that nursing school was no where close to the level of difficulty. I am not saying that nursing school isn't hard work, it is just the amount and type of material in pharmacy school is a lot more difficult to me. In nurisng school everybody hated pharmacology and pathophysiology. In pharmacy school that is all you do throughout 4 years Patho and pharm. I am happy with my switch, but I must warn you that it is totally different when it comes to work.
 
njamah said:
Please compare pharmacy school to nursing school. (Nursing school was crazy). I did the accelerated BSN.
Do pharmacy schools accept A&P 1&2 from nursing?
Are you glad to be switching to pharmacy? IMHO, nursing is just too stressful.
Do you think pharmacy as a career is as stressful as nursing?
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You are switching over to pharmacy because nursing is to stressful, and you think pharmacy will be better??? I actually just laughed out loud! You are funny!
 
njamah said:
Please compare pharmacy school to nursing school. (Nursing school was crazy). I did the accelerated BSN.
Do pharmacy schools accept A&P 1&2 from nursing?
Are you glad to be switching to pharmacy? IMHO, nursing is just too stressful.
Do you think pharmacy as a career is as stressful as nursing?
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Nursing school = 0.09mg Digoxin vs pharmacy school = 9 mg Digoxin. Administer these two doses to 2 different pt's and see what happens to their heart rate. That is probably what is happening to pharm students 😀 😉 Nah, it's stressfull but as long as you have the passion and the love for the profession and determination, it'll be doable. Have you been accpeted yet?
 
MountainPharmD said:
You are switching over to pharmacy because nursing is to stressful, and you think pharmacy will be better??? I actually just laughed out loud! You are funny!
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I laughed out loud too, but at least I didnt post it. . . You are right though. This post should be nominated for the funniest post of the year.
 
while pharmacy school may be harder than nursing school, from what I've seen (mom is a cardiacICU/ER/cath lab/dialysis/anticoag RN) the actual job of being a pharmacist, in a hospital setting, is less stressful than that of the nurse.

you couldn't pay me to be a nurse. that is one hard job. yes, we are the keepers of the information but they actually have to deal with the patients and families. I work very hard to keep my nurses happy.
 
yes, I am glad we don't have any RNs in my class. I would probably have to bludgeon them with DiPiro.

hands on experience is a good thing but it isn't always right.
 
Aznfarmerboi said:
I laughed out loud too, but at least I didnt post it. . . You are right though. This post should be nominated for the funniest post of the year.
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IMHO, pharmacy as a profession is less stressful than nursing as a profession.
 
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I smell a troll, (Post count and original stupid questions).

njamah said:
IMHO, pharmacy as a profession is less stressful than nursing as a profession.
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Read what I said before implying things that I did not say. Quote mountaind next time.

lease compare pharmacy school to nursing school. (Nursing school was crazy). I did the accelerated BSN.

If you think pharmacy school is anywhere near what nursing school is, then you need a MRI for your brain. In addition, when does stress have anything to do with the nature of the job itself. Did you think that going into nursing school, you will come out with a high paying sit on your ass job? What makes you think pharmacy is anything different? Just because it is your honest opinion does not make it so. You cannot comment on a profession that you have barely started. By simplying saying that pharmacy is less stressful than nursing, you are showing how inexperienced you are. There are different levels of stress in each environment. A private in the trenches might have a different stress level than the general in the tent commanding the battle. Both have equally stressfull job. To say where (one profession where you can practice with complete authority), and to another, where you cannot is less stressful is just ignorant.

Do not get me wrong. I do not have an inferior complexity. I welcome you to OUR profession, and hope to work with you in the future. Happy holidays.
 
Aznfarmerboi said:
I smell a troll, (Post count and original stupid questions).



Read what I said before implying things that I did not say. Quote mountaind next time.

lease compare pharmacy school to nursing school. (Nursing school was crazy). I did the accelerated BSN.

If you think pharmacy school is anywhere near what nursing school is, then you need a MRI for your brain. In addition, when does stress have anything to do with the nature of the job itself. Did you think that going into nursing school, you will come out with a high paying sit on your ass job? What makes you think pharmacy is anything different? Just because it is your honest opinion does not make it so. You cannot comment on a profession that you have barely started. By simplying saying that pharmacy is less stressful than nursing, you are showing how inexperienced you are. There are different levels of stress in each environment. A private in the trenches might have a different stress level than the general in the tent commanding the battle. Both have equally stressfull job. To say where (one profession where you can practice with complete authority), and to another, where you cannot is less stressful is just ignorant.

Do not get me wrong. I do not have an inferior complexity. I welcome you to OUR profession, and hope to work with you in the future. Happy holidays.
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I appreciate your input, but the one thing that you NEED to learn is how to address people in a civil manner. Your ignorance in that department is so transparent.
 
Comparing nursing school and pharmacy school is not very helpful. I've been a nurse (LPN) and was in nursing school (BSN) when I got accepted to pharmacy school. There is just a different focus between the two. Much of the disease state and pathophysiology are very similar between the two programs, but pharmacy school also focuses on the economic an and medications more then nursing school. At the same time, nursing school had way more hands-on patient care training then pharmacy school. There is a focus on different aspects of care. A lot of the information is very similar to the nursing school, at least in the first year of pharmacy program. My anatomy and physiology did not take the place of the required A&P for pharmacy school, but the A&P has a different focus when taught through the pharmacy school as well. Our focus is much more on the physiology and not so much on the anatomy side.
Just something to think about. Both pharmacy and nursing can be difficult or easy depending on your ability to retain and apply information. There is also a different focus between the two careers. If you want to do the hands-on direct monitoring of a patient in a hospital, don't go into pharmacy. However, if you want to understand the medications and how they truly effect the human body, then pharmacy school is the place for you. Apart from doing research, that is.
Also keep in mind that pharmacy school is longer. You have to be prepared for two more years of school. Enjoy:hardy:
 
njamah said:
How many nurses do you have in your class?
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I went to nursing school.

Nursing school was a complete joke compared to pharmacy school.

And nurses do think they know everything. It's annoying.
 
This is not really relevant to the situation and I am not calling out all nurses and saying you are all like this, but I took a Microbiology class over the summer and almost all of the class was composed of nurses minus maybe students. Anyways, everyday in class they complain about how much work there was in the class and how they didn't want to stay the whole class time. It was still a good class, but it did kind of ruin the class with the amount of complaiing and leaving early.
 
The stress factor is different btw a nurse and a pharmacist. Pharmacy school was hard. It was no joke. I had friends cry in front of me. I had friends who dropped out.

cycloketocaine said nursing was a joke. My sister said the same thing. She's a nurse and is working towards her NP degree. She said it was a joke because she didn't learn anything and it was easy to get into. In NYS, there's only 4 pharmacy school verse the hundreds of nursing schools. You think it's easy to get into pharmacy?

I think it's pointless to switch to pharmacy when your already a nurse. Most pharmacy school don't even take the previous nursing school credits. So your starting again from scratch and that 6 more years of education. It makes more sense to take your nursing degree and advance it to the next level. That's what my sister did.
 
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littleaznpharm said:
The stress factor is different btw a nurse and a pharmacist. Pharmacy school was hard. It was no joke. I had friends cry in front of me. I had friends who dropped out.

cycloketocaine said nursing was a joke. My sister said the same thing. She's a nurse and is working towards her NP degree. She said it was a joke because she didn't learn anything and it was easy to get into. In NYS, there's only 4 pharmacy school verse the hundreds of nursing schools. You think it's easy to get into pharmacy?

I think it's pointless to switch to pharmacy when your already a nurse. Most pharmacy school don't even take the previous nursing school credits. So your starting again from scratch and that 6 more years of education. It makes more sense to take your nursing degree and advance it to the next level. That's what my sister did.
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Well, good for your sister, but with all due respect, I am not her.
 
cycloketocaine said:
njamah said:
There's not many ways to explain it, except pharmacy school is a bajillion times harder, in every aspect, than nursing. That's all there is to it.
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now when you say "every aspect" are you just talking in school or are you talking career as well?

I looked at my friend's pathophysiology nursing book. It was much more in depth than ours. Again, this will vary from school to school.

But as far as work goes, they are different types of stress. And I'd much rather have the pharmacy stress than the nursing stress.
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njac said:
cycloketocaine said:
now when you say "every aspect" are you just talking in school or are you talking career as well?

I looked at my friend's pathophysiology nursing book. It was much more in depth than ours. Again, this will vary from school to school.

But as far as work goes, they are different types of stress. And I'd much rather have the pharmacy stress than the nursing stress.
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I think he was talking about school as his sentence implied. Concering pathiophys, it depends on who the professor is, no? It also depends on how much they got covered. Still, nursing school is no where as hard, or will ever be to the level of pharmacy school.
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speaking of nurses (this is a little out of topic) do u all think nurses can be the most annoying customers/patients at retail settings? I hate dealing with nurses because they think they know everything.
PS. yeh, they might have some pharmacology knowledge but don't tell patients to take zantac for itch because it is also an anithistamine....GOODNESS!!! lol!!! dont know if anyone of you heard this before.
 
wow you guys must have ran into some crazy nurses... most of the nursing students/ nurses I know are nice people and not know it alls, but I could also be lucky to have met some nice nurses
 
OK guys 'n' gals, lets quit this nurse bashing especially from "former" nurses.
 
This is interesting. I didn't know there are so many nurses that are in pharmacy school or interested in doing pharmacy. There is at least 1 nurse in my class. She is very nice and not know-it-all. I never asked her why she switched, but what is interesting is that she works on weekends as a nurse making $20+/hr while us pharmacy students make no where near that.

Now to go from nursing to pharmacy school, it's gonna take longer than 4 years because of the pre-req. I have a friend who is in nursing school right now. She took lower level of chemistry and biology and didn't take any o-chem. I don't think she took anything higher than algebra. Since you're already a nurse, you can work and go to school at night or vice versa to complete the pre-req and then apply for pharmacy school.

As far as the stress level is concerned, the grass is always greener on the other side. When I worked in the hospital, I worked my ass off and every time I go on rounds, nurses are always sitting around gossiping. I'm sure they say the same about us pharmacy, that we do nothing. So why not shadow a pharmacist or something and get some experience before you make that big switch.
 
Nurses in pharmacy school are called Pharmacy Students. Soon they will be called Pharmacists. They probably do know heckuva lot more about somethings than most of you + your instructors. Leave them alone.
 
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Epic said:
Nurses in pharmacy school are called Pharmacy Students. Soon they will be called Pharmacists. They probably do know heckuva lot more about somethings than most of you + your instructors. Leave them alone.
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Go Epic!!!!!!!!!!
 
I've been a nurse and working on PhramD. I keep seeing the term "harder" thrown around, but what do you think it means? For me, it was much more difficult to drain body fluids out of a person, then it is to figure out the chemistry that is happening in the body. It seems to me that it also has a lot to do with a person's interest in the subject. I'm so much more interested in the chemistry and physiology then I ever was with the anatomy classes in nursing school.
Also bare in mind that nurses, just like MD's and PharmD's, specialize after school. In nursing it is more hands on then residency, but they are still highly speialized. My wife is a CCU nurse and she is very up to date on her drug information. Where as I could tell you what a drug should do to a person, and why it does in chemical measures; she can tell you what the drug "did" to a person and how well it really works in the by measuring the effects.
I find both nursing and pharmacy school challenging and interesting. But the term "harder" seems to be a very relative term. It doesn't really matter what school you go through, you will probably be challenged in some cases and bored in others. I'm sure in every class there are people who feel that that school was the Mt. Everest of their lives, and others who thought it was just too easy for them. It's all about interest and ability.
 
Interesting thread. I am really looking forward to discussing this once I am accepted to an "accredited" pharmacy school. Not now while things are in limbo.🙂
 
For those pharmacy students boasting RX school is that much harder...perhaps. But I will tell you that a typical critical care nurse is much more experienced and knowledgable about critical care medications including dosing and titration..and how it's administered than 95% of pharmacists out there.. Wait, let's make that 99% of pharmacists.

If you have titrated midazoloam, ativan, precedex, or propofol to sedate a patient to a modified Ramsay Scale of 4, please raise your hand...

Give respect to nurses. They run the hospital and are the most powerful group. Pharmacy is an ancillary department to service nursing. Once you understand this concept... you'll do just fine as a clinical pharmacist. If you don't, you will fail.
 
Epic said:
For those pharmacy students boasting RX school is that much harder...perhaps. But I will tell you that a typical critical care nurse is much more experienced and knowledgable about critical care medications including dosing and titration..and how it's administered than 95% of pharmacists out there.. Wait, let's make that 99% of pharmacists.

If you have titrated midazoloam, ativan, precedex, or propofol to sedate a patient to a modified Ramsay Scale of 4, please raise your hand...

Give respect to nurses. They run the hospital and are the most powerful group. Pharmacy is an ancillary department to service nursing. Once you understand this concept... you'll do just fine as a clinical pharmacist. If you don't, you will fail.
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Party pooper........👎
 
cycloketocaine said:
Party pooper........👎
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aint pooping no party.... we got a good party at my house tonite... bunch of little ones are putting on a concert... I actually get to break out my guitar and duet!!!

You're just upset you got iced!
 
Epic said:
For those pharmacy students boasting RX school is that much harder...perhaps. But I will tell you that a typical critical care nurse is much more experienced and knowledgable about critical care medications including dosing and titration..and how it's administered than 95% of pharmacists out there.. Wait, let's make that 99% of pharmacists.

If you have titrated midazoloam, ativan, precedex, or propofol to sedate a patient to a modified Ramsay Scale of 4, please raise your hand...

Give respect to nurses. They run the hospital and are the most powerful group. Pharmacy is an ancillary department to service nursing. Once you understand this concept... you'll do just fine as a clinical pharmacist. If you don't, you will fail.
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Agree cien por ciento...most pharmacy students panic if they even have to walk into a patient's room and do something simple like ask a few questions to follow-up on an ADR, or provide discharge counseling...

Nurses deal with patients 24/7, so if you've got that background...more props to you...I think it's awesome.

I know I was stumped at first when they started talking "z-track" IM injection...let alone titrate to a Ramsay or RASS.
 
SpirivaSunrise said:
Agree cien por ciento...most pharmacy students panic if they even have to walk into a patient's room and do something simple like ask a few questions to follow-up on an ADR, or provide discharge counseling...

Nurses deal with patients 24/7, so if you've got that background...more props to you...I think it's awesome.

I know I was stumped at first when they started talking "z-track" IM injection...let alone titrate to a Ramsay or RASS.
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hey..nice tight christmas sweater!!
 
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Epic said:
For those pharmacy students boasting RX school is that much harder...perhaps. But I will tell you that a typical critical care nurse is much more experienced and knowledgable about critical care medications including dosing and titration..and how it's administered than 95% of pharmacists out there.. Wait, let's make that 99% of pharmacists.

If you have titrated midazoloam, ativan, precedex, or propofol to sedate a patient to a modified Ramsay Scale of 4, please raise your hand...

Give respect to nurses. They run the hospital and are the most powerful group. Pharmacy is an ancillary department to service nursing. Once you understand this concept... you'll do just fine as a clinical pharmacist. If you don't, you will fail.
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all pharmacists are clinical

nurses do run the show

i know what a Ramsey and a RASS is, but in my state i am not allowed to titrate anything. just to explain how.
 
happy holidays to everyone.
 
I have a story.

It's time for the nurse to administer the meds to the patient...open the patient chart.....sign/check/mark the meds in the chart....close the chart....done.

No meds are given to the patient....the following shift nurse arrives....wonder if the history repeats.....
 
I wonder how the patient who swallowed those big "Pills" for her yeast infection feels about nurses.

I'm not knocking all of them... there are some supper kick ass nurses out there who go above and beyond to do their jobs well. There is the good the bad and the ugly in every profession.
 
Hi!... I am planning to start pharmacy school this summer/fall 2008.

To nurses out there, can you guys find time to work during school?

I am thinking about working PRN? May be as a weekend nurse (but then I won't have time to study during weekend). Do you work as a travel nurse during your summer off?

How many hours do you work per week? Do you work as a pharmacy technician or as a nurse or as a pharmacy intern? Do the hospitals offer you a nursing job knowing that you are in pharmacy school and can only work PRN on weekend?

I don't think I can be poor and rely on the loans for the next 3 or 4 years. Thanks in advance for your advice.
 
All these talks remind me of all the nurses who refused consultation at my pharmacy. The persons may be different but the reason is always the same "I dont need your consultation or advice, I'm a nurse".
 
We should not be so negative towards nurses! We should instead channel this useful negative energy against the true annoyances of allopathic medicine: chiropractic and the like!
 
With all the hate that nurses get on the other forums, this one is surprisingly praiseworthy about them.👍
 
My fiancee is in nursing school. She will be a nurse when I start. I honestly hope that pharmacy school isn't a whole lot harder that what I've seen her do. I also hope she can help me study.

In the note of the other subject on this thread, we should all be nice to the nurses. We all have the same goal (patient care), and I bet it works best when we work together.
 
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