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I alredy have my down payment for sept 2011 in at AUC. I just got a call from Touro COM, NY and I'm in there as well. I have heard that US DO > FM school. I did not like New York when i was there for the interview, I am more a small town boy than a NY city boy. I have never been to AUC or St. Maartin and it will be a stab in the dark. I assume it will be more my style as islands tend to be more chill overall. I have $1600 to AUC for my spot and it will be 2k more to hold my spot in NY. One factor is I am married and NY would allow my wife to come and stay with me and work, she is an RN. On the down side, I think med school might be a battle better won alone on the island. My wife can stay here in Florida and send me cash.
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bodave2 said:
I alredy have my down payment for sept 2011 in at AUC. I just got a call from Touro COM, NY and I'm in there as well. I have heard that US DO > FM school. I did not like New York when i was there for the interview, I am more a small town boy than a NY city boy. I have never been to AUC or St. Maartin and it will be a stab in the dark. I assume it will be more my style as islands tend to be more chill overall. I have $1600 to AUC for my spot and it will be 2k more to hold my spot in NY. One factor is I am married and NY would allow my wife to come and stay with me and work, she is an RN. On the down side, I think med school might be a battle better won alone on the island. My wife can stay here in Florida and send me cash.
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NYCOM and Touro-NY are two very different schools...

But being a US DO will probably be better for residencies than a carib school
 
If you check out ValueMD (the IMG equivalent of SDN), just about every user there will tell you that US DO is a far better option than Carib MD.

I had a choice between SGU and US DO. As you can tell by my signature, I'm going with the DO option 🙂 All of my IMG friends (many of whom secured decent university-based residencies) told me I'm making the right decision.

Ultimately, this choice is up to you. If you choose Touro NY, AUC will refund $1000 of your seat deposit (stated on their website).
 
As swimchick said, pretty much every single overseas school will tell you DO is a superior option. There are a lot of shady things that go on at AUC/SGU/Ross that rarely get the attention they deserve.

While Touro will give you a US-accredited and standardized education that is pretty much (obviously with some variation) equivalent to any other DO education, which is pretty much identical to any other MD education, the same is not true overseas. The overseas schools are pretty well known for being a "read the review books and prepare for the test" schools where a lot of the education is the bare minimum you need to understand the board review books and then months and months of board review, rather than actual education.

oh and add in that the pass rate is 95% or so, but the "take" rate is about 40%. You need to be the top 40% of your class to be allowed to even take the test to graduate. If not, you are stuck with nothing. so really its more of a 38% pass rate since most aren't allowed to even take the test and are told to repeat years ad nauseum or to give up those pesky doctor aspirations.

Add in that NY (and other states) and beginning to seriously give overseas schools hard times now. In official ways (e.g. NYS is tired of losing clinical rotation spots to foreign schools so they are about to make an about face on their normal pro-IMG stance and make it very difficult to secure spots in NY) and in unofficial ways (multiple residency directors have told me that they will not look at IMGs no matter how qualified for anything but primary care unless there are no other qualified applicants in MD/DOs. This is a trend i'm hearing more and more from people i talk to in other IMG-heavy states recently)

while you cant rule out your sense that you might not be a NY guy, and a mental breakdown really wont help the education. IF you can get past it, DO is a *much much* better option than overseas.
 
Chances of you graduating at Touro : ~99.9 ( Save for emergencies)
Chances of you graduating at AUC : Significantly less ( Drop out rates significantly high)
Chances of getting a residency at Touro : ~ 99.9 ( Again, unless something extreme happens).
Chances of getting a residency as an IMG ~ Low. ( Ross university for example has more students in its first year class than there were IMG's accepted into residency from all IMG schools last year. So if even 50% of that class does drop out you've got major competition for limited residencies).

Overall DO >>>>>>>> Foreign MD. Not to mention in terms of employment where you do your residency >>> where you did your medical training. ( Read as you will likely get the lowest IM position as a IMG where as at Touro you can probably land a mid level residency with a minimal ( Significantly lesser score than what your IMG friend will need to get to get a low level position) comlex/usmle score.
 
serenade said:
Chances of you graduating at Touro : ~99.9 ( Save for emergencies)
Chances of you graduating at AUC : Significantly less ( Drop out rates significantly high)
Chances of getting a residency at Touro : ~ 99.9 ( Again, unless something extreme happens).
Chances of getting a residency as an IMG ~ Low. ( Ross university for example has more students in its first year class than there were IMG's accepted into residency from all IMG schools last year. So if even 50% of that class does drop out you've got major competition for limited residencies).

Overall DO >>>>>>>> Foreign MD. Not to mention in terms of employment where you do your residency >>> where you did your medical training. ( Read as you will likely get the lowest IM position as a IMG where as at Touro you can probably land a mid level residency with a minimal ( Significantly lesser score than what your IMG friend will need to get to get a low level position) comlex/usmle score.
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For the most part you are correct. But when you said Ross first year class has more students than all imgs getting residencies is very wrong. Check your stats.
 
Always DO, no exceptions. I saw you posted this on the ValueMD forum which got you some interesting replies.

The difference between a DO and a MD is minimal these days, and you can get into any residency as a DO. Is there some discrimination still? yes. But it's few and far between. However, the discrimination against IMG is SO MUCH MORE, to use a number.... 6.022 x 10^23 and the bare minimum.

Also, I always get a good laugh at their adverts.

In one of my classes, there's a poster for Ross that has some really nerdy guy blankly staring off into nothing and it says his name John Doe, MD '04
with his real name then it says Neurosurgery Resident

I laugh so hard... because of 2 things, first the fact that he's probably the only Caribbean IMG that got into Neurosurgery ever. Second that they use specifically Neurosurgery because every pre-med I know is like "OMG, I'm gonna be a Neurosurgeon like on Grey's Anatomy".

Also, a girl I worked with went to AUC last year and flunked out, now she's at SABA and she's flunking there...

The point is these "schools" accepted pretty much everyone, knowing that only a small amount (like under 30 percent) will actually pass and even less will get residencys.

So you're paying 40K + a year for just tuition, not even living expenses to get an "MD" you won't be able to do anything with.

....Go US MD/DO always, no exceptions. Don't backdoor your way into medicine through the caribbean.
 
I'm sorry but it's hard for me not to believe is guy is a troll.... He was accepted to touro-ny and called it ny-com. Shouldn't he know the difference?
 
Workingonit said:
For the most part you are correct. But when you said Ross first year class has more students than all imgs getting residencies is very wrong. Check your stats.
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I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure about my stats. The residency data I got from AAMC and the class size was put up by Ross students.
 
Whether or not hes a troll who ill throw down my .02. DO>Carribbean ALWAYS. I too know a great guy who just wasnt cut out for med school. He went to AUC and made it to the end of his M1 year but ended up failing the year. He never went back...and now is stuck with those loans to pay off.

If that MD is really that important to you then go. Ill stick with a DO after my name...and know that I live in a house that I own...have a toilet,running water,heat,reliable electricity, can go to Wegmans and get anything I want to eat, etc. Oh and no toxoplasmosis, strange tropical diseases, etc.

I am not a city boy either..and personally hate NYC...but 4 years is not very long. I am 2 weeks away from my 3rd trimester of M1 and it seems like orientation just ended. FLIES BY.
 
willen101383 said:
If that MD is really that important to you then go. Ill stick with a DO after my name...and know that I live in a house that I own...have a toilet,running water,heat,reliable electricity, can go to Wegmans and get anything I want to eat, etc. Oh and no toxoplasmosis, strange tropical diseases, etc.
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This is a really important point that rarely gets made. When you go to a US school, even if it's rural and isolated from most everything, it's still better than the carib. We have this notion that the carribean is some huge swim up bar but that couldn't be farther from the truth. To say the least, it is not conducive to studying. Basic American comforts that we take for granted don't necessarily exist down there.
 
IamaBanana said:
This is a really important point that rarely gets made. When you go to a US school, even if it's rural and isolated from most everything, it's still better than the carib. We have this notion that the carribean is some huge swim up bar but that couldn't be farther from the truth. To say the least, it is not conducive to studying. Basic American comforts that we take for granted don't necessarily exist down there.
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I think AUC is the exception to this. Unlike Ross and SGU, AUC is on a pretty developed island with almost everything you could find on US soil IIRC.

That still doesn't change anything though, DO > Caribbean
 
I dont care MD vs DO and this is not a troll post. I have been working as a graphic artist for a few years before i went pre med so having a DO after my name is a huge deal for me and the doc's i have shadowed have all been DO's. Sorry for calling TouroNY nycom as i applied to both and get the name confused.
 
bodave2 said:
I dont care MD vs DO and this is not a troll post. I have been working as a graphic artist for a few years before i went pre med so having a DO after my name is a huge deal for me and the doc's i have shadowed have all been DO's. Sorry for calling TouroNY nycom as i applied to both and get the name confused.
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I fail to see the correlation. Could you explain?
 
serenade said:
I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure about my stats. The residency data I got from AAMC and the class size was put up by Ross students.
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Ross accepts between 850-1000 students per year, depending on the year.

There are only 7,400 or so total IMGs from every country in the world that match in the US. There are 30 or so caribbean medical schools, with about half of them trying to get US citizens with the promise of turning them back to america. Most are not as big as Ross. Some are bigger (SGU).

needless to say when you add in every other country in the world except for canada (who can freely enter the US system if they wish to fill out the paperwork), those 850-1,000 kids dont have such good odds to all make it to the 7,400 spots. Especially when you consider a considerable proportion of those spots go to long-time doctors from other countries who wish to practice in america and need to undergo residency before they can do so. It even further limits the spots for americans who landed at one of the schools in the carib.

While your numbers may not be accurate, the sentiment was correct, i'd think.
 
MLT2MT2DO said:
I fail to see the correlation. Could you explain?
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well as a pre-med undergrad there are those who still feel MD is superior to DO. Students in my classes who are younger fail to understand your reputation is made by your actions and not your name tag. As an older student (almost 30) I have no ego to please, I'm in this for the medical education to help others not for bragging rights. The fact i was a graphic artist has no meaning in its self, it could just as well been at burger king.The fact I have been around the block and understand being a doc is about a lot more than status as many young undergrads feel.
 
bodave2 said:
I alredy have my down payment for sept 2011 in at AUC. I just got a call from Touro COM, NY and I'm in there as well. I have heard that US DO > FM school. I did not like New York when i was there for the interview, I am more a small town boy than a NY city boy. I have never been to AUC or St. Maartin and it will be a stab in the dark. I assume it will be more my style as islands tend to be more chill overall. I have $1600 to AUC for my spot and it will be 2k more to hold my spot in NY. One factor is I am married and NY would allow my wife to come and stay with me and work, she is an RN. On the down side, I think med school might be a battle better won alone on the island. My wife can stay here in Florida and send me cash.
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if you're a small town type of person, why not go to NY school and do your first 2 years, and then do your rotation at a small town in the US and do your residency in a small town and practice in a small town. so it's just the first 2 years.

in addition to what everyone has been saying, would you choose a AUC over a US MD school??? NO...so don't choose AUC over a US DO school...simple as that
 
bodave2 said:
well as a pre-med undergrad there are those who still feel MD is superior to DO. Students in my classes who are younger fail to understand your reputation is made by your actions and not your name tag. As an older student (almost 30) I have no ego to please, I'm in this for the medical education to help others not for bragging rights. The fact i was a graphic artist has no meaning in its self, it could just as well been at burger king.The fact I have been around the block and understand being a doc is about a lot more than status as many young undergrads feel.
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Thank god there are so many older guys coming to SDN lately (I am about ur age). It seems like most of us hang around in pre DO too which is why this forum is a lot more fun to post in. Actual perspective on life goes a long way. (not do hate on any younger guys because you are fun to "talk to" as well).

MD does have advantages over DO not going to lie there. But how much of an advantage depends on the school you go to. However its not going to be in curriculum..because it is the same. Its going to be in rotations most likely, and the slight (albeit dying) stigma attached to the DO degree. But that stigma is greater for IMGs most likely.
 
bodave2 said:
well as a pre-med undergrad there are those who still feel MD is superior to DO. Students in my classes who are younger fail to understand your reputation is made by your actions and not your name tag. As an older student (almost 30) I have no ego to please, I'm in this for the medical education to help others not for bragging rights. The fact i was a graphic artist has no meaning in its self, it could just as well been at burger king.The fact I have been around the block and understand being a doc is about a lot more than status as many young undergrads feel.
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It read as though you were drawing a correlation of being a graphic artist to why you want DO after your name. Guess I misunderstood. I'm the same age as you, and really MD, or DO it doesn't really matter. Once I didn't get into my state school (aka cheap tuition) it became which school fit best.
 
swimchick said:
If you check out ValueMD (the IMG equivalent of SDN), just about every user there will tell you that US DO is a far better option than Carib MD.

I had a choice between SGU and US DO. As you can tell by my signature, I'm going with the DO option 🙂 All of my IMG friends (many of whom secured decent university-based residencies) told me I'm making the right decision.

Ultimately, this choice is up to you. If you choose Touro NY, AUC will refund $1000 of your seat deposit (stated on their website).
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Haha, so a for-profit school will refund your deposit, but DO schools--most of which are not-for-profit--charge outrageous deposits that are never refundable; this is incredibly disgusting
 
bodave2 said:
well as a pre-med undergrad there are those who still feel MD is superior to DO. Students in my classes who are younger fail to understand your reputation is made by your actions and not your name tag. As an older student (almost 30) I have no ego to please, I'm in this for the medical education to help others not for bragging rights. The fact i was a graphic artist has no meaning in its self, it could just as well been at burger king.The fact I have been around the block and understand being a doc is about a lot more than status as many young undergrads feel.
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Do yourself a favor and go DO man. Saves a lot of headache and allows you to be with your family. The only sacrifice you will have to make is living in NY, which isn't a bad sacrifice at all. Besides, it's only for a couple years.
 
ubcvan said:
if you're a small town type of person, why not go to ny school and do your first 2 years, and then do your rotation at a small town in the us and do your residency in a small town and practice in a small town. So it's just the first 2 years.

In addition to what everyone has been saying, would you choose a auc over a us md school??? No...so don't choose auc over a us do school...simple as that
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+1!!!!!
 
Wow some of those people are idiots. It's funny, I wonder how many of them will get actually get a residency. There are some sane minds on that thread though.
 
LastPolarBear said:
Wow some of those people are idiots. It's funny, I wonder how many of them will get actually get a residency. There are some sane minds on that thread though.
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The thing is one of the posts was from an administrator form AUC and even (s)he said to always go US MD/DO over Caribbean yet they still cling to their beliefs... also, my fav statement....

"PCOM is 2nd only to kirksville and AUC is just as good as them."
 
GotMyHairDid said:
http://www.valuemd.com/american-university-caribbean-auc/207983-touro-com-ny-auc.html

here's the link for that thread it gets really really good after the 2nd page. I'm literally laughing my ass off.
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Its like brain washing down there. The amusing part is that everyone who is a sane minded person is on clinical rotations, a resident, or an attending. Everyone who has insane-o ideas are 'on the island' students and one guy on a residency board.

for a cat IM. Which if i were to order all residencies from easiest to hardest Cat IM would prob be second easiest. And this guy is talking about how his carib guys are superior etc etc. attempting to move past that hes saying this from a residency that, while possible to do amazing things from, is considered the easiest path into hospital medicine.
 
this is my favorite from someone named AUCMD2013

"Anyone willing to work decently hard can secure a prematch. The only people who worry about being screwed out of a residency are those who are lazy and don't plan on working hard. I just don't see how a person can do well get great step scores out of a Caribb MD school and not get a residency that they're satisifed with. DO is for people who are planning to slack or just don't believe in themselves all that much. At least that's how it seems based on these comments by people supporting going the DO route. Absolutely nothing is mentioned about why being a DO may intrinsically be better, only that cowardly talk about how you're more likely to end up with a residency. "
 
Who are these fools!
"The power of the MD lives on. Touro is a joke"

"american students are a buncha poindexters who carry themselves like their stools don't smell"

??!?!?!?

These people are crazy.
 
LOL the justifications and reasoning in that thread is priceless.
 
Brachyury said:
Haha, so a for-profit school will refund your deposit, but DO schools--most of which are not-for-profit--charge outrageous deposits that are never refundable; this is incredibly disgusting
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I agree with you this DO deposit thing is crazy!!!!!

I would still NOT go to a medical school that is in the Caribbean. I would just pay the deposit.
 
livedie said:
I agree with you this DO deposit thing is crazy!!!!!

I would still NOT go to a medical school that is in the Caribbean. I would just pay the deposit.
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Brachyury is 100% wrong. AUC's deposit is non-refundable. The very definition and context of deposit means that it is non-refundable. So it is no different. I figured since no one (til now) bit on brachyury's ridiculous comment that it didnt need to be corrected. The deposit is $ 1600 and only $600 is refundable assuming you jump through some hoops and tell them months before the enrollment date.
 
christina30 said:
Who are these fools!
"The power of the MD lives on. Touro is a joke"

"american students are a buncha poindexters who carry themselves like their stools don't smell"

??!?!?!?

These people are crazy.
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Lol, I saw that too. These people are MD supremacists. MD Power!
 
DocEspana said:
Brachyury is 100% wrong. AUC's deposit is non-refundable. The very definition and context of deposit means that it is non-refundable. So it is no different. I figured since no one (til now) bit on brachyury's ridiculous comment that it didnt need to be corrected. The deposit is $ 1600 and only $600 is refundable assuming you jump through some hoops and tell them months before the enrollment date.
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That is not true some MD schools do return your deposit. I say the some because I do not want to say all, but all the American MD schools I have dealt with there is either no deposit or there is a refundable deposit.


thanks for clearing that up about AUC I do not know much about the Carib schools because I did not apply to any of them. I heard too many horid stories.
 
I think what a lot of people don't understand about the caribbean is that the culture shock will be profound. For alot of people, this might be their first time on their own..now they have to deal with living in foreign place, not speaking the local language, having to shop for groceries and toiletries differently. And I haven't even gotten started on the risks of not matching since a whole bunch of new schools are opening in america without a concomitant increase in residency spots.
 
DO for sure. The cost of the deposit seems daunting now but is a drop in the bucket in a year, let alone 4 years of school.

Congrats.
 
GotMyHairDid said:
Always DO, no exceptions. I saw you posted this on the ValueMD forum which got you some interesting replies.

The difference between a DO and a MD is minimal these days, and you can get into any residency as a DO. Is there some discrimination still? yes. But it's few and far between. However, the discrimination against IMG is SO MUCH MORE, to use a number.... 6.022 x 10^23 and the bare minimum.

Also, I always get a good laugh at their adverts.

In one of my classes, there's a poster for Ross that has some really nerdy guy blankly staring off into nothing and it says his name John Doe, MD '04
with his real name then it says Neurosurgery Resident

I laugh so hard... because of 2 things, first the fact that he's probably the only Caribbean IMG that got into Neurosurgery ever. Second that they use specifically Neurosurgery because every pre-med I know is like "OMG, I'm gonna be a Neurosurgeon like on Grey's Anatomy".

Also, a girl I worked with went to AUC last year and flunked out, now she's at SABA and she's flunking there...

The point is these "schools" accepted pretty much everyone, knowing that only a small amount (like under 30 percent) will actually pass and even less will get residencys.

So you're paying 40K + a year for just tuition, not even living expenses to get an "MD" you won't be able to do anything with.

....Go US MD/DO always, no exceptions. Don't backdoor your way into medicine through the caribbean.
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I saw a similar ad on the DC metro a year or so ago. I figure at least it's an ad for an educational program. In philly all the ads are for bail bondsmen and personal injury lawyers.
 
Ok OP, let me get this straight.- you don't like New York. In fact, you would leave your WIFE behind here in the US for several years, so that you, a "small-town" guy can avoid the "big-city" life of New York and attend medical school on a small, impoverished, island, which you have never been to or set eyes on, in the hopes that it might match your small town tastes. Nice story, Bro.

I hope the OP is just a troll- because the thought of someone leaving their spouse behind while they travel to a foreign country so they can get an MD over a DO- that just scares me.
 
NurWollen said:
I hope the OP is just a troll- because the thought of someone leaving their spouse behind while they travel to a foreign country so they can get an MD over a DO- that just scares me.
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This reminds me of one of the most heartbreaking postings I saw on SDN a few years ago. A pre-med student didn't want to apply to his local DO med school (which is a very good school - Western COMP), because of the DO initials. But due to his grades, he wasn't competitive for California MD schools and would have to apply out-of-state. However, his young son lived in his city with the child's mother, so by going out of state to pursue an MD, he would have had to give up custody of his son. I was pretty incredulous that there was even a decision to be made at all, but he actually seemed to be strongly leaning towards applying to MD only. 🙁 I truly cannot imagine someday trying to justify towards my child why some stupid initials were more important that raising him or her and seeing him or her grow up. I have read a lot of odd posts on SDN, but that is one unforgettable past discussion I don't think I can wrap my head around and probably never will. I can only hope that applicant thought things through a bit more and made a very different decision.
 
I do not understand either how anyone would choose a MD carib title over a DO title. I am not trying to be hypocritical I did choose MD schools over DO schools. If I did not have that choice, I would gladly go to a DO school. Its not just about the letters its also about the DO logic. There are some DO's that practice OMM, but as someone who hopes to do ER or Internal Medicine in a hospital I do not see when it would fit in. My primary care Dr is a DO he never explained to me that he can do OMM, nor did he try to practice it on me.I hear medical school is hard enough, but isn't OMM studying an additional curriculum? Part of me is also scared what if I do not pass OMM and it brings my grades down, or the COMLEX for OMM what happens to my residency options? I hate asking this but I do not understand why when DO's graduate they want to do a MD residency, and if there is not difference between the two letters why the distinction then?
 
willen101383 said:
Whether or not hes a troll who ill throw down my .02. DO>Carribbean ALWAYS. I too know a great guy who just wasnt cut out for med school. He went to AUC and made it to the end of his M1 year but ended up failing the year. He never went back...and now is stuck with those loans to pay off.

If that MD is really that important to you then go. Ill stick with a DO after my name...and know that I live in a house that I own...have a toilet,running water,heat,reliable electricity, can go to Wegmans and get anything I want to eat, etc. Oh and no toxoplasmosis, strange tropical diseases, etc.

I am not a city boy either..and personally hate NYC...but 4 years is not very long. I am 2 weeks away from my 3rd trimester of M1 and it seems like orientation just ended. FLIES BY.
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whoa! back up! Don't you go to PCOM? Where is there a Wegmans around here?

/Won't miss Superfresh when/if I move out of Philly.
 
WingedOx said:
whoa! back up! Don't you go to PCOM? Where is there a Wegmans around here?

/Won't miss Superfresh when/if I move out of Philly.
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I live in abington! So there are 3 wegmans around philly. One out 422 in collegeville. One up 611 in warrington. One in downingtown. And while you are in downingtown hit up victory brewery restaurant. Oh and all the area wegmans are selling 6 packs now and have INSANE selections.
 
willen101383 said:
I live in abington! So there are 3 wegmans around philly. One out 422 in collegeville. One up 611 in warrington. One in downingtown. And while you are in downingtown hit up victory brewery restaurant. Oh and all the area wegmans are selling 6 packs now and have INSANE selections.
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damn... to far away from center city for me. All my friends in Rochester are using Wegmans as bait for me to come to do residency at UR.
 
OP, medical school is tough on your spouse, even in the best relationships. My spouse is making a huge sacrifice for my career. Not only do they pay the bills, as your wife will be doing, they forgo having your attention, buying that new car, etc. I was willing to do go to whatever school would have the least impact on my family. Even though I go to school in the same area as my family, it is still very difficult on them and me to balance my need for studying with their needs for me being around and participating.

I think your wife needs to have a huge say in where you go. If I were in her shoes, I would probably not be too keen on you being away in the islands while I was working my bum off to get you through school.

Good luck with your decision and congrats on your acceptances.
 
for those of you that think DO is better than the big 4 caribs check the match lists, they say about all of it. Also yes many in the carib don't make it but that isn't any fault of the school's, it's of the students for not applying themselves. I have yet to see anyone who truly applied themselves fail out.

Ross-- http://www.rossu.edu/medical-school/residencyappointments.cfm
AUC -- http://aucmed.edu/alumni/residency-appointments.html
SGU -- http://aucmed.edu/alumni/residency-appointments.html

compare those to one of the biggest DO programs

http://www.pcom.edu/student_life/student_affairs_main/match_2010_phl.html

not that much different and a larger % of carib placements were better known places than PCOM. Just saying to all those that think 100% hands down DO > Carib MD do some research. It's the person not the school when you are Carib MD OR DO now and days.
 
DoctorMedic said:
for those of you that think DO is better than the big 4 caribs check the match lists, they say about all of it. Also yes many in the carib don't make it but that isn't any fault of the school's, it's of the students for not applying themselves. I have yet to see anyone who truly applied themselves fail out.

Ross-- http://www.rossu.edu/medical-school/residencyappointments.cfm
AUC -- http://aucmed.edu/alumni/residency-appointments.html
SGU -- http://aucmed.edu/alumni/residency-appointments.html

compare those to one of the biggest DO programs

http://www.pcom.edu/student_life/student_affairs_main/match_2010_phl.html

not that much different and a larger % of carib placements were better known places than PCOM. Just saying to all those that think 100% hands down DO > Carib MD do some research. It's the person not the school when you are Carib MD OR DO now and days.
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Le sigh...

Could you possibly post a match list for ALL students that began as MS-1s at those caribbean schools? That'd be swell!
 
DoctorMedic said:
for those of you that think DO is better than the big 4 caribs check the match lists, they say about all of it. Also yes many in the carib don't make it but that isn't any fault of the school's, it's of the students for not applying themselves. I have yet to see anyone who truly applied themselves fail out.

Ross-- http://www.rossu.edu/medical-school/residencyappointments.cfm
AUC -- http://aucmed.edu/alumni/residency-appointments.html
SGU -- http://aucmed.edu/alumni/residency-appointments.html

compare those to one of the biggest DO programs

http://www.pcom.edu/student_life/student_affairs_main/match_2010_phl.html

not that much different and a larger % of carib placements were better known places than PCOM. Just saying to all those that think 100% hands down DO > Carib MD do some research. It's the person not the school when you are Carib MD OR DO now and days.
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Below you will find a list of the positions that have been reported to us by the NRMP (and a few placements outside of the match reported to us directly from our graduates).

That is all, thanks.
 
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