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yeah bro, i live in Queens. im about 30 minutes away from the school if I take the Long Island Expressway lol
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iunno man, a lot of people haven't heard back from them that applied at the same time I did. I'm hoping they get back to us before the end of January so I won't have to waste a $1000 deposit on another school. I am willing to waste it if I do get accepted to NYCOM though, i wont have to move away, i wont have to cook, and i wont have to miss my family. family as in mom, dad, brothers and sisters lolol im still young!
You can do rotations where ever you want. NYCOM gives you the choice of rotating through their 32+ hospitals (which is an awesome system), or any other hospital you can get approval from. NYCOM also has a global health track/ program. They take you to Ghana or costa rica in the summer of your 1st or 2nd year, and they also actively encourage at least 1 international rotation. The global health office will help you set up a international rotation if you are interested.
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Get over yourself. Anyone that says "I have a pretty good chance" at so and so school is just being full of themselves. With your stats, nothing is a guarantee, not even if you had perfect scores across the board. Its a lot more than numbers; its a complete picture.
Maybe your "stellar" scores dont compensate for your other lack of credentials. Going to medical school and becoming a doctor is not about numbers, its about treating patients. Quite frankly, if you cant speak to patients, no matter how smart you are, they will not come back to see you.
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I hope you know I'm just saying that because I believe that I am competitive. Key word "believe". I've already gotten into other schools but I really like NYCOM and I hope they send me an interview invite soon.
I know my stats aren't amazing and that schools look at the complete picture. I know all this stuff your telling me. Just because I think I have a good shot at this school doesn't mean you need to come on your high horse and put me down. I know where I stand. Shows a lot about your personality.
If you look through these threads, all I do is give people hope and wish them the best. I never put people down cause thats not how we soon-to-be doctors should be acting. You need to get over yourself.
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chill. whiny post.
praying for you!AND EVERYONE ELSE WAITING FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF DECISIONS TO BE MAILED! It will be okay guys! Once you all make it, we'll all celebrate!
Thanks, that means alot. I called the admissions office today and they said they sent out a letter on the 15th. Hopefully its a "good news" letter and I'll be recieving it soon. I'll let you know what happens.
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Medical school will humble an attitude like this. One thing you will realize in med school is that there are always people who are smarter then you and know more then you (myself included).
I wish you nothing but the best, at any school you decide to attend. All schools offer an excellent education, what separates one student from another is how much they really want it.
Just a quick word of advice, and this goes for everyone, not just the angry Asian. 'Dont think that you are better then everyone else and are so smart because you are in medical school, you are no better then the homeless man on the street.' I heard this the first day of school and have vividly seen it play out. We had several students during the first couple weeks of school walk around like big shots because they "knew a lot" and would dazzle other students by reciting verbatim from memory professor's slides. Guess what? Those students are no longer here.
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It seems you are the "angry" one, not angryazin".
The kid has competitive stats and simply stated that fact. He didn't say he was the world's strongest applicant and that any school that didn't accept him would be insane. So what exactly is the problem?
You say that "anyone who says they have a pretty good chance at so and so schools is just being full of themselves". How did you arrive at that ridiculous conclusion. So someone who takes a genuine look at their stats and concludes that they have a solid shot at a particular school is full of himself? Thats news to me.
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Its no where close to as large of a student body as LECOM, but LECOM flings their students around across several campuses and curricular pathways. In terms of one single location, NYCOM probably is the largest. However, you do have the choice between LDP and DPC (PBL), and that will split up the class somewhat - though, DPC is only 40 or 60 students I believe.
Supposedly, from friends I know who go there now, its not hard to seek out professors. For some you may need to do a little hunting but its doable, and not much of a different experience if you previously came from a large educational program. I'm unable to comment on tutoring though. Hopefully, someone else here can answer that part.
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I've arrived at this "ridiculous" conclusion by speaking to fellow classmates and others. I have friends who applied across the board to medical schools, allopathic and osteopathic with stats 35+ MCAT, 4.0 GPAs, publications, all the jazz and still get rejected at all schools (plural) they applied to; even though they thought they had a "pretty good shot" at those schools. Now guess what, these people are re-applicants because of their cocky attitude. There are students with what pre meds would call "sub par" stats and they are great students, some even surpass super star students with great MCATs and GPAs.
A lot of schools know this, and hence look at the applicant as a whole. How you did in college is in no way a predictor of how you will do in medical school.
Relax SDF1. This is called overreacting.
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Yeah I agree. This is supposed to be a friendly forum you know. I understand what your talking about how the stats don't really indicate how a student will do in med school. But just chillax a bit, we don't know each other and theres no need to make people feel bad.
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Has anyone who sent out check heard anything back from NYCOM??? I sent out my deposit check with forms last Monday and nothing has happened so far....
I see nothing in AZN's post that warrants such an incendiary response; he was just stating that his application is competitive for NYCOM, which it is. The criteria for application to medical school is indeed multifaceted, but you cannot deny that the primary reason that an interview is granted is usually one's grades and MCAT. Perhaps you should do some introspection to see why you would responded in such an unpleasing manner.
NYCOM is the 3rd largest Medical School in the country, and the largest Osteopathic Medical School. LECOM is technically not considered one school, but one organization with multiple schools/branches, otherwise you would be correct longshanks. Finding professors is easy, they all have office hours, and they all respond quickly to emails, some even give out their home phone #s. Tutoring is also available if you feel you need it, and mandatory if you fail a class. NYCOM also has learning specialists that can help you with your studies, and even help you to create a study plan if necessary. NYCOMs goal recently was announced by the Dean, the goal is to make NYCOM the #1 Osteopathic school in the US over the next 5 years. They wont leave you behind...
Thanks for all your help NYEMMED. Are you a current student? Could you comment on the size of the lectures? Are they giant? Is it hard to get a good seat? Is it only DO students or are there people from other disciplines as well? Is attendance required? Are lectures available online after class? For how long? How often are exams given for the lecture based pathway?
Sorry so many questions- just want to know what I'm getting myself into!
Also, what do you feel are the best and worst parts of NYCOM?
Thanks again!
Sorry so many questions- just want to know what I'm getting myself into!
Also, what do you feel are the best and worst parts of NYCOM?
Thanks again!
I am currently a 2nd year at NYCOM. The lectures are about 270 students, the rest are in DPC. Seats are not an issue at all, the lecture halls are huge, you will see them when you interview. The lectures and all 3 NYCOM buildings (except for the anatomy lab, which PA students have their anatomy lab at a completely different time, and have their own cadavers. The PA students are not allowed to use the anatomy lab while the Medical Students are using it) are DO students only. Occasionally a few PA students use the NYCOM medical library, or silent study area, but only until security checks their IDs and asks them to leave. Attendance is officially required, They really only check attendance for Labs such as OMM, DPR (doctor patient relations, your actual hands on clinical training) and ICC( Institute for clinical competence, here the students are assessed by actually seeing patients, or using one of the STAN patient simulators). Lecture attendance is not actually taken, they do count how many students are in class each day, then if there is not at least 70% of the class present they send out an email and will actually start attendance for a few weeks. All lectures are video recorded and are posted usually about an hour after class, they are permanently available and do not expire. The professors can also write on their computer monitor and it will transfer right onto the power point slide on screen, this is also recorded in the video stream. Exams are variable by each system. As a first year your exams will be every 2 weeks in the intro to medicine course (first 6 weeks). Then there are typically 2-3 exams per system, about 3-5 weeks apart.
Worst- Not fully mac friendly (still need windows) This is supposed to be changing for the class of 2015, they are making the campus mac friendly. New neuroscience faculty is needed, they are already hiring new faculty though. Scheduling- some students get annoyed with the scheduling. Sometimes there is 1 hr of class before a holiday break, etc. Sometimes the ICC emails the students with only 3 days notice of a clinical exam coming up.
Best- NYCOM is affiliated with 32+ hospitals throughout NYC, LI, NJ, CT, and upstate NY. It gives us plenty of ability to rotate practically anywhere we want, in any field we want. NYCOM also has many rare rotations that other schools do not have, ENT, Optho, Infectious Diseases, neurosurgery etc, etc...NYCOM also has their own residencies called NYCOMEC, basically 23+ hospitals that offer residencies in the NY, NJ area with priority given to NYCOM students. NYCOM also has a great reputation around the NY area, it seems all medical staff in the hospitals are very impressed with NYCOM students. NYCOM has really good match rates in both the Allopathic and Osteopathic matches. (about 60% of NYCOM students go allopathic) about 75% of NYCOM students get into a specialty, and the match list has amazing places such as, cornell, NYU, johns hopkins, Cleveland clinic, Stanford, Mayo clinic etc... NYCOM has 3 STAN simulators which are several million dollars each, we get to learn how to run codes, ACLS, etc on these robots.
In all im very happy with NYCOM, several years ago they made a bunch of changes to the curriculum and many other areas which really propelled the students, and placed NYCOM among the top Osteopathic Medical schools. If I had to choose again I would still choose NYCOM.
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I am a first year DPC student who has found some time to answer questions, now that winter break has begun. I'd be happy to do my best to answer any general or DPC related questions you may have.
Hey thanks NYEMMED for taking the time to write that very informative and awesome response.
I have some questions for you BurlapSocks (sounds itchy). Could you please comment on what a typical day is like for a DPC student? I know it is a lot of independent study, but my question is really how does this work. I know you are presented with a case and you have "learning objectives", but then what? Do you just go home and read everything and anything you can about whatever it is you think the patient might have? I guess I'm just not really sure how you are supposed to approach this type of learning. I can definitely see the advantage of this pathway because you learn to learn, not just to memorize, but how do you know if you're reading enough or the right things? How much guidance do you get from faculty? Do you feel disadvantaged in any way or do you think you have the upper hand against lecture based students? How does your knowledge get tested? Do you feel like you study more than lecture based students?
I know, lots of questions. Any input would be helpful.
I have some questions for you BurlapSocks (sounds itchy). Could you please comment on what a typical day is like for a DPC student? I know it is a lot of independent study, but my question is really how does this work. I know you are presented with a case and you have "learning objectives", but then what? Do you just go home and read everything and anything you can about whatever it is you think the patient might have? I guess I'm just not really sure how you are supposed to approach this type of learning. I can definitely see the advantage of this pathway because you learn to learn, not just to memorize, but how do you know if you're reading enough or the right things? How much guidance do you get from faculty? Do you feel disadvantaged in any way or do you think you have the upper hand against lecture based students? How does your knowledge get tested? Do you feel like you study more than lecture based students?
I know, lots of questions. Any input would be helpful.
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We have group three times a week, MWF, for two hours, and then have a clinical skills lab once a week for three hours. We also must attend the OMM labs and lectures, as well as anatomy labs and lectures with the lecture-based students. Often, we have OMM lab or anatomy lab before group, so the day will begin at 8AM (OMM) or 9AM (for anatomy), and will go until 3PM when group is concluded. Anatomy labs are 3 hours, while OMM labs are 2 hours. There may be a few hours in between the conclusion of OMM lab and group to reread or review.
As far as how group works, we are presented with a case, and will let the case guide us as far a how we will create learning issues that we will be learning about and discussing. For example, if the patient has an upset stomach, and has taken tylenol to ease the pain, we will go into the anatomy of the GI, histology of the stomach cells, pharmacology of tylenol, etc. Most of the group time is used to discuss these issues, and some time at the end is alotted to order tests. Based on this, we narrow down our differential diagnoses. The tests may also lead to learning issues. If a patient is breathing rapidly, we may wish to take a look at the respiratory system. If there are elevated red blood cells, we may make the histology of blood a learning issue.
After we decide on a few issues, I then proceed to read the textbooks until I am prepared to discuss these issues the next time we meet. It may be difficult at times to know that you are reading the correct things. You may come into group having read something that others have not, though this is a good thing and will generate discussion. You may learn that you have not read enough, and will have to open another book and re-examine the topic to get a good understanding of the material.
We have two faculty members who sit in, and are supposed to help us with maintaining the process of group discussion, but will not tell us if we are saying incorrect things in group, as that is the responsibility of the rest of the group. They may comment that a learning issue is not to their liking, but will more often than not say nothing when bad issues are chosen. You will find out how not to choose learning issues when you bite off more than you can chew. The quality of group discussion will reflect this.
I think that the information we do learn is cemented more effectively than if I were still in lecture. I say still, since we all took the introductory course together. For me, it takes twice as long per day to have a good grasp of the material, than I did when I had lectures during intro. We are tested on the learning issues that we come up with, twice a semester. There is a large test that combines multiple-choice questions, with fill-ins, and essays. In my opinion, it is more difficult than the exams I had during intro. Of course, we also take the anatomy and OMM exams, as well as the anatomy and OMM portions of the multiple choice exams the lecture students take. As there are fewer exams, there is less room for error, and one cannot hope to master the material one weekend, or even one week before an exam.
I think the biggest advantage to the DPC program is the clinical practicum, wherein we are placed into the offices of physicians in the middle of first year. I also think that having a large variety of cases and the process of creating learning issues makes it more interesting than sitting in a lecture hall, listening to the 15th hour of rheumatology lectures.
Anymore interview invites? I'm guessing more will come after the first deposits are due and people don't pay. From previous posts it seems that's Jan 21 for NYCOM? I sent my secondary app right after receiving the email (early Sept.) and have heard nothing.
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Same here- are you in state?
ya, you?
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No OOS I would have thought the In State people would be called sooner but hopefully we may hear in January...
No OOS I would have thought the In State people would be called sooner but hopefully we may hear in January...
ya makes me wonder if it means I'm never going to get an invite. At least I allready have a good school in my pocket.
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Stay in touch with them. Write them update/interest letters if necessary and appropriate. If they are your top choice, then write a letter of intent further along in the season when there is some waitlist movement.
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Also a first year, and must say @ Burlap Socks, those 15 hours of rheum lectures were pretty amazing - Dr. Simon is a damn legend!! (And I recommend to you NYCOM hopefuls that end up here, to attend Dr. Simon's lectures in the future - he's the man!)
good luck, guys~! Just dropping in because it's winter break and I am snowed in!
good luck, guys~! Just dropping in because it's winter break and I am snowed in!
if you don't mind me asking, what were your stats like?
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Holding out hope for a fellow NYer Heroes. Where do you hang your hat?
Brooklyn, Thanks man! Good luck to you too.
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They are ok academic side but was hoping extracurriculars would seal the deal.
3.5 overall gpa, around a 3.3 for sci and 3.7 non sci, 26 mcat (will retake if i do not get in) however people have informed me at multiple schools that my mcat should not exclude me from osteopathic schools. I have two years experience working in a hospital lab as a medical technologist, I volunteered as a hospice care worker for about six months plus i've volunteered in a clinic just doing clerical work on top of other volunteer activities. Oh, and i have research experience. If I don't get in i'm going back to school full time.
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The 26 MCAT is a little bit on the lower end for NYCOM (certainly not a bad score, but they've been trying to raise their standards & minimum MCAT score/GPA), and might be the reason for the waitlist, assuming your interview went well, since your GPA and ECs are relatively competitive. Obviously they liked you enough to interview you, and that's always good! Stay positive, though - and don't get discouraged. Keep in mind that NYCOM's waitlist tends to move really slowly, and really late - so be patient and good luck! 🙂
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I also got waitlisted. I have very similar stats as AMRED. I was hoping the fact that I am an ER tech for almost 3 yrs, along with other EC's would set me apart enough to get me accepted. NYCOM is definitely my top choice. Oh well, hopefully the both of us are ranked high on the list and get accepted.
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interview invite today! in state!
Going weds, jan 26..anyone else that day?
Going weds, jan 26..anyone else that day?
When were you complete?
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Back in mid september..maybe a week after they sent out the secondary (although it seems that completing the secondary didn't really matter as long as you complete it by the interview date)
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does anyone know if they're sending out interviews each week at this point?
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I would say about 15-20. On my interview day there were about 10 in the morning and another 6 in the afternoon. But it overlapped a lot because there was a major accident on the LIE in addition to rain that made people late (including admissions and financial aid people) and for a very disorganized schedule.
I will see you there! The woman on the phone said there was a spot for tomorrow but I'm OOS...sounded like I took the last spot for the 26th
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