Hi! I'm a high school senior from Illinois that just got into NYIT's dual admission DO program. I was excited to hear that I got in, but honestly I don't know very much about the school/program and its credibility. I've read a lot of bad on-line reviews, but I'm hesitant to give it up is because a dual program is a great opportunity. Should I go to NYIT or go the traditional route at my other choice, Marquette (majoring in biomedical science as a pre-med)? If you have any experience with the school that would be greatly appreciated! Thank you so much for your help!
NYIT's dual admission DO program
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Only experience I've got with NYCOM is working with an excellent attending trauma surgeon from there. I don't want to put words in the guy's mouth but his feelings on the school seemed mixed. He also went there when you were so young you probably were struggling with multiplication tables, so I'm sure much has changed. NYCOM is regarded as a fairly decent DO school and has a decent postgraduate training infrastructure, but both the undergrad and DO school are quite expensive.
You could always take the direct admit and if things look really good simply apply MD down the line and give up your offer, but I would only do this if you like the idea of NYIT as an undergrad school.
You could always take the direct admit and if things look really good simply apply MD down the line and give up your offer, but I would only do this if you like the idea of NYIT as an undergrad school.
Hi thank you for answering! I'm not really worried about the NYCOM DO school portion, but rather with the undergraduate portion. After reading some reviews about the quality of the undergrad school, I'm worried that I won't be able to get the required MCAT score to continue to the DO school. The required MCAT score is supposed to be higher than the average I believe... They said that last year it was 28 - is that an achievable score?
Yes, 28 should be very achievable for anyone considering medical school, unless you have some serious standardized test taking issues (which some do; it's not a reflection on their ability to be a doctor).
I'm not sure if you're asking about BS/DO programs in general or just your specific one, but my advice if you're concerned about the undergrad portion would be to be sure you go to an undergrad where you'd be happy regardless of whether or not you end up in med school. Right now you may be 100% sure med school is for you, which is great, but college is a time where you're supposed to grow and explore and try new things. You're not supposed to be the same person in four years as you are now. In fact, if you were, there'd be a problem! You certainly may decide to continue to pursue medicine, but you may decide that another path is better for you. I really think that any undergrad you attend should be able to accommodate both possibilities. If that can happen with your undergrad dual admission portion, great; if not, I would seriously consider going the more traditional route.
It sounds like you're enthusiastic about the med school but tentative about the undergrad portion, which is quite a big a red flag for me.
Ultimately wherever you go, college will be what you make of it. Study hard, get good grades, and have fun!
I'm not sure if you're asking about BS/DO programs in general or just your specific one, but my advice if you're concerned about the undergrad portion would be to be sure you go to an undergrad where you'd be happy regardless of whether or not you end up in med school. Right now you may be 100% sure med school is for you, which is great, but college is a time where you're supposed to grow and explore and try new things. You're not supposed to be the same person in four years as you are now. In fact, if you were, there'd be a problem! You certainly may decide to continue to pursue medicine, but you may decide that another path is better for you. I really think that any undergrad you attend should be able to accommodate both possibilities. If that can happen with your undergrad dual admission portion, great; if not, I would seriously consider going the more traditional route.
It sounds like you're enthusiastic about the med school but tentative about the undergrad portion, which is quite a big a red flag for me.
Ultimately wherever you go, college will be what you make of it. Study hard, get good grades, and have fun!
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First of all congrats on getting into the program. I have a good amount of information about the program so message me if you want details about that.
I would have to advise against the program however. Its an excellent opportunity but it has to many flaws. I will describe them below. However my one caveat is if NYIT gave you a full scholarship I say go for it. If they didn't then forget about it. Here is why you shouldn't attend.
1) its not much of a guarantee. Its nice that it cuts out ECs but you got to do those anyway or else you have no shot at applying out if you feel you would rather go somewhere else. And if you have a 3.3 28 MCAT you are competitive at all DO programs.
2) attrition. Very few students who start this program will end up at NYIT is my guess. Many because they couldn't make the MCAT and many because they went somewhere else. The chances are that most likely you will be in a situation where you aren't going to NYIT making dual pointless. Its only works out really if you are from the area and know you want to go to NYIT med anyway and want to do zero ECs. That is really the best part of the guarantee as they give little in terms of numbers.
3. The other good thing is that it could potentially cut off a year but I think it is a negative because college is fun and you want to enjoy it. Not cut it short.
4. Dual students struggle in med school. They are as a whole not as well prepared. The hoops are there for a reason trying to avoid them could end up badly for you.
So overall unless there is severe fiscal factors in play (free undergrad) I say skip it! If you do want to do dual I would recommend PCOM's program as the med school is cheaper and they are actually giving a much sweeter deal. Its with usciences and i would recomened that program. Also why I still wouldn't advise NSU's program I would say it is better then NYITs and offers a lot of money at the undergrad level if you apply for scholarships. All 3 of those med school are good though. I wouldn't recommend LECOM's program as I don't have confidence in the quality of the rotations at that medical school. Also kcom has a program. Its good since there is no MCAT I believe but you should realize where you are geographically.
As far as NYIT 's ability to prepare you for the MCAT I doubt they will do a great job of it but if you buy the books and dedicate yourself to the exam and understand youre gonna have to work harder then others for it I think you can get the score you need.
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Your classes at any college will not prepare you for the MCAT. They simply make you familiar with the topic. The tests are completely different often focusing on mathematics, whereas the MCAT focuses on critical thinking and retaining a large volume of information for the test. At worst, you'll need to take an mcat course.
