NYU Oral Surgery Honors Program

[tanneric]

For anyone who currently goes to NYU, is in the honors program, or graduated from it, can someone shed some light on this? I have my mind set on oral surgery, so I want to prepare for it from day one. I know the usuals - keep your grades up, pass the boards, and pimp out your resume - but does anyone know the answers to the following...

1.) How many students do they take every year? I believe the website says 2, but just want some verification, because some of NYU's stuff seems a bit dated.

2.) What are the most important factors in determining who gets selected? For example, is it grades in particular courses, research experience, demonstrated interest, consistent exposure, etc.?

3.) If you've been accepted, or rejected from the program, would you mind sharing your stats? I'd like to gauge what I'd need to aim for to even have a shot at it. (Please don't answer this with "get an A in all your classes," because even the illustrious Harvard has rejected even the seemingly "perfect applicant" and I'm sure many of us can attest to the fact that perfect grades guarantee nothing, even without achieving them)

4.) If anyone out there graduated from the program, did having that honors program under your belt help secure an oral surgery residency (assuming you applied to an oral surg residency)? or if you didn't do this program and applied to oral surgery residencies, was it looked down upon (not sure if school's know what NYU offers)?

Thanks for all the responses!

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[NoPresident]

Here's what I know:

1.) Officially they accept 6 students into the D4 Honors OMS Program but in the past they've allowed one extra.

2.) What you listed is pretty dead on, in my opinion the order of importance goes something like this:
a.) grades/class rank
b.) board score (NBDE I previously, NBME now)
c.) research/ECs/interest & face-time w/ OMS faculty

3.) I'm only a D2 but I think the conventional wisdom applies (top 10-15%, 90+ board score, etc.). At NYUCD the cutoff for top 10-15% correlates roughly w/ a GPA of 3.7.

4.) From what I know almost everyone that gets into the honors program matches somewhere. Intuitively this makes sense because an applicant's competitiveness is evaluated similarly to national standards when applying to OMS programs. That said, there are students that don't get into the honors program who still match somewhere. I think this year there were ~10 students that matched and, as I said, the honors program accepts 6-7.

Hope that helped a bit tanneric, feel free to PM me too.

Cheers!

 

[imrealgerman]

Here's what I know:

1.) Officially they accept 6 students into the D4 Honors OMS Program but in the past they've allowed one extra.

2.) What you listed is pretty dead on, in my opinion the order of importance goes something like this:
a.) grades/class rank
b.) board score (NBDE I previously, NBME now)
c.) research/ECs/interest & face-time w/ OMS faculty

3.) I'm only a D2 but I think the conventional wisdom applies (top 10-15%, 90+ board score, etc.). At NYUCD the cutoff for top 10-15% correlates roughly w/ a GPA of 3.7.

4.) From what I know almost everyone that gets into the honors program every year matches somewhere. Intuitively this makes sense because an applicant's competitiveness is evaluated similarly on nation standards when applying to OMS programs. That said, there are students that don't get into the honors program who still match somewhere. I think this year there were ~10 students that matched and, as I said, the honors program accepts 6-7.

Hope that helped a bit tanneric, feel free to PM me if too.

Cheers!

Best answer to any question on sdn. Thanks! As for the NBME, is this taken along with the new pass/fail NBDE or an alternative or what? I've seen this exam come up in other threads, but they were upwards of a year old, so I didn't think asking them would help lol

 

[NoPresident]

Best answer to any question on sdn. Thanks! As for the NBME, is this taken along with the new pass/fail NBDE or an alternative or what? I've seen this exam come up in other threads, but they were upwards of a year old, so I didn't think asking them would help lol

I don't know about that, but thanks! So, as far as the NBME is concerned, it's offered once a year (Sept. 8th this year) and yes you'll have to pass the NBDE I and as well. For example, since I'm finishing up 2nd year I'll take the NBDE I in late August and then the NBME Sept 8. NYUCD has a break between summer and fall semester during which you must take the NBDE I (Aug 22-31). Needless to say I'm not looking forward to taking two hugely important and stressful exams within weeks of each other but there's nothing to do about it I suppose.

There are some newer threads on SDN with some solid info on the NBME or you can also check out this website: http://www.nbme.org/students/index.html