NYU vs. Midwestern IL

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Hi all,

I've already put my first deposit down for NYU and have some time before putting a deposit down for Midwestern IL. Really leaning towards NYU. I am not concerned about the cost, but would anyone like to give their input for choosing one over the other?

Thanks!
 
Personally, the only negative I have about NYU is obviously the price. Other than that, it offers so much (diversity, city life, excellent clinical education, outreaches). As far as class size goes, I'm pretty indifferent about the large class since they do split up the class into groups for certain things(but then again, you're still gonna have massive lecture classes). Since cost isn't really a concern for you (besides MWU-il is barely cheaper than NYU), I would definitely attend NYU if you don't mind a large class size. Also not that it really matters in dentistry, but you'll be going to a school that is internationally known. But, at the end of the day, it's up to you where you think you will be the happiest. I can't really speak for MWU-il since I never interviewed there though.
 
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No I don't mind large class sizes at all. That's what my undergraduate life was like and I didn't mind it, especially not now since I am not competing for anything any longer. Yeah, I agree with you on all those points! Thank you for your insight. Are you a D1 at NYU?
 
go to NYU. i'm a d3 and i can say that you learn a lot. probably more than you will at a newer, less established school
 
Don't know much about MWU, but I interviewed at NYU. Since cost doesn't matter, go to NYU. If I could attend multiple dental schools, NYU would be one of them. I spoke with a D2 on HPSP there and he feels confident about his clinical experience.
-convenience of shadowing dentist from various specialties under the same building
-new renovations (new building: joined with nursing school; more study spaces (I assume lack of study areas is a problem)
-summer research program before D1 if you're interested in settling down and getting familiar
-preclinic looks like a factory, but there's faculty per row for you to ask questions
-you are assigned to a group practice with group practice directors and upperclassman aka mentors
-in neighborhood of nice restaurants
-more recognized name(?)

This was my first acceptance, so I almost went here and imagined myself attending.
 
GoSeahawks said:
No I don't mind large class sizes at all. That's what my undergraduate life was like and I didn't mind it, especially not now since I am not competing for anything any longer. Yeah, I agree with you on all those points! Thank you for your insight. Are you a D1 at NYU?
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No but i will be attending NYU this fall unless i get off the waitlist for another school.
 
Hi there!

I'm a D2 at MWU and here's what I can say about MWU:
My opinion may be biased, because I go to this school. But, based on my experience so far, I love the school. I went to other schools for interviews (not including NYU; I didn't apply there), but I think MWU-IL was the best among them.

What I like (and impressions at the interview):
1. Friendly and happy staff and students. You can definitely feel how friendly and happy they are at the interview. Everyone was very easy to talk to and all of them seems to be very enthusiastic about the school. Yes, other schools I interviewed at displayed similar friendliness, but imho, MWU-IL showed the most genuine excitement about the school.
2. State of the art technology. They also have really good looking clinic and SIM clinic. Some things we have in our SIM clinic include: CAD/CAM and milling machine and dental microscope. If you have a chance to take a look and compare, you will see how advanced our technologies are.
3. Low student : staff ratio. It is about 6:1 (Especially true for DENT/ Clinic courses)
4. There is no specialty program, meaning: we get to work with more procedures, because we are not competing with specialty students to find patients.
5. Being a school with different health disciplines, they can offer interprofessional study.
6. I love the 4 seasons they have in midwest.
7. Downers Grove is a good place to stay. It's close enough to Chicago, but far enough to be away from the traffic and other distractions. In addition, the living cost is relatively cheaper than a lot of other bigger cities.
8. Even though it is a new program, I have the confidence that they will be great. I really think that they have what it takes to be successful.
9. We have really high Boards pass rate (only 124 out of 125 students passed on the first try last year).
10. There are a lot of D4s who got into residency/ specialty programs. I am personally involved in ASDA and I know for a fact that all our ASDA D4s exec members got into their top residency programs of choice.
11. They have plenty of research opportunities for students. I'm doing a research myself.

However, I understand that there may be some disadvantages:
1. Not much experience. It is a new program (We are going to have our second graduating class this summer). Thus, we do not really know about the quality of the graduates. However, I can tell you that we have wonderful faculties! MWU as an organization have had the other health programs for a long time now. Plus, we have our sister school (MWU-AZ) who is more established. So, in my opinion, they have the experience and the support system needed to be a good program.
2. The clinic is not located at the campus. It's about 10 minutes drive.
3. Snow.

It's almost two years and I love it even more here. Things get boring from time to time and you'll get burned out (trust me, it's normal you just have to get out of it), but in general, I think I made the right decision going to MWU-IL.

Hope that helps in making your decision. Feel free to contact me if you wanna know more! 🙂
 
I would go to NYU over MWU. I interviewed at MWU, but I did not interview at NYU.

Here are a few concerns I had about MWU...
1) The clinic is a ghost town. When I went there for my interview there were barely any patients. It could be said that it was not a busy time of day for them, but I was not impressed at all with the clinical exposure they claimed to offer.
2) The clinic is not even attached to the school. We took a tour bus to the clinic and it wasn't located on campus, so expect to drive. You figure if you are paying $100K+ a year they could at least hook it up with a shuttle.
3) MWU is not established as other schools. They seemed to still have obvious problems in their clinic and students didn't seem overly happy.
4) MWU has a CEO and not a president. If that tells you anything MWU is run like a business.
 
tarheel616 said:
I would go to NYU over MWU. I interviewed at MWU, but I did not interview at NYU.

Here are a few concerns I had about MWU...
1) The clinic is a ghost town. When I went there for my interview there were barely any patients. It could be said that it was not a busy time of day for them, but I was not impressed at all with the clinical exposure they claimed to offer.
2) The clinic is not even attached to the school. We took a tour bus to the clinic and it wasn't located on campus, so expect to drive. You figure if you are paying $100K+ a year they could at least hook it up with a shuttle.
3) MWU is not established as other schools. They seemed to still have obvious problems in their clinic and students didn't seem overly happy.
4) MWU has a CEO and not a president. If that tells you anything MWU is run like a business.
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If I may respond to these concerns:
1) We admit patients at specific times. Everybody starts at the same time and goes to lunch at the same time. So, if you visit the clinic at the wrong time, you won't see anybody there. lol. Also, keep in mind that there are only D3s and D4s in that 6 stories building and that for the most part, lectures are not held there.
2) Yeah, this was something I'm not really a fan of. However, the driving is not a concern for me. People mostly drive to school anyway, because the public transportation is not the best in the suburb. My concern is that it kind of detaches the upperclassmen from the D1s and D2s.
3) MWU as an org. is pretty established. The med school was the first one built (founded in 1900). Yes, the dental school is new, but that doesn't mean that it has a low quality of education. And, speaking about the patients, I have never heard any upperclassmen complained about not having enough patients. As for the students being not overly happy, I'm not seeing that too. Students get stressed out for sure, but that's just dental school. Depends on when your interview is, students can be overwhelmed by the exams/ boards. lol.
4) It is a private school after all. If you can get into a public school, you should go there. But, to tell you the truth, I haven't had any problem of it being "run like a business." One thing I noticed is that they constantly try to make the "brand" better (e.g. continuous improvement of the facilities and pushing for better boards passing rate over the years). But, as I said, it hasn't been a problem for me. If anything, I will benefit from going to a "good brand" d-school.

Hope this helps.
 
MBlue16 said:
If I may respond to these concerns:
1) We admit patients at specific times. Everybody starts at the same time and goes to lunch at the same time. So, if you visit the clinic at the wrong time, you won't see anybody there. lol. Also, keep in mind that there are only D3s and D4s in that 6 stories building and that for the most part, lectures are not held there.
2) Yeah, this was something I'm not really a fan of. However, the driving is not a concern for me. People mostly drive to school anyway, because the public transportation is not the best in the suburb. My concern is that it kind of detaches the upperclassmen from the D1s and D2s.
3) MWU as an org. is pretty established. The med school was the first one built (founded in 1900). Yes, the dental school is new, but that doesn't mean that it has a low quality of education. And, speaking about the patients, I have never heard any upperclassmen complained about not having enough patients. As for the students being not overly happy, I'm not seeing that too. Students get stressed out for sure, but that's just dental school. Depends on when your interview is, students can be overwhelmed by the exams/ boards. lol.
4) It is a private school after all. If you can get into a public school, you should go there. But, to tell you the truth, I haven't had any problem of it being "run like a business." One thing I noticed is that they constantly try to make the "brand" better (e.g. continuous improvement of the facilities and pushing for better boards passing rate over the years). But, as I said, it hasn't been a problem for me. If anything, I will benefit from going to a "good brand" d-school.

Hope this helps.
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Nuff said.
 
I interviewed at both schools and I liked both!

My biggest question is for the WREB though since I'm from CA(and possibly the NERB?) since I know for MWU the WREB isn't offered at MWU-IL. You would have to go to Chicago and take it at the dental school there. NYU offers both NERB and WREB so they have an advantage for that. Also (if an NYU student can confirm this) I was told by admissions and faculty that at NYU they will actually save board certified patients and cases when you take your regional exams so you don't have to be as stressed looking for your own (obviously you should still keep backups). At MWU-IL, there is no official system that saves patients for regional exams but I was told by a D4 that the school will still help you find patients.

Obviously there is more to both schools than just how convenient that make your regional exams but for me that is a factor.

From what I saw NYU is better if you want to specialize mainly because the specialties are in the same building so you can have exposure in order to place into your desired specialty. There is also an honors program built around helping you get into specialities. On the flipside I feel like MBlue16 mentioned, no specialties means you get more complex cases and more experience in those cases for yourself at MWU.
 
About the WREB: Yeah.. it's a bit bothersome if you decide to do it. However, it's not impossible. I know a current D4 who just done with it. He actually went to MWU-AZ to complete it.
I'm also from California and was thinking about taking WREB as well. Just know that you are not going to be alone in this. By the time you need to take the WREB, pretty sure we will have enough information to help you better with it.
 
Might be too late, but definitely go to NYU. I've heard that MWU-IL grads only do 2 crowns..............
 
NYU is about to lose accreditation. My GP told me so...
 
I worked with 3 new grad doctors from UIC, Midwestern, and Indiana. I feel the Dr from Midwestern was better. Had more confidence in his skills and and he got the least amount of complaints lol.
 
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