Okay, so I am on my Ob/Gyn rotation as a third year and it is my first rotation. Just a little about me, I am a 24 year old YOUNG looking (18 yo or so looking) male. Point is, I don't look like someone a year or two from being a "doctor" doctor. Well since Ob/Gyn deals with a very sensitive area of the body and subjects, some of the residents and doctors I follow would always ask patients if they mind if I come in or stay and watch. They would usually say something short like "POR is a medical school student, is it okay if he comes in?" (of even worse, leave out the "medical" part and just call me a "student." But literally more than half the time they ask, the patients say no to even me watching the most basic things, let alone doing anything, which I really need and am supposed to be doing. Especially today at one clinic, I spent more than half the time outside the room sitting in the nurses station than actually watching learning how to be a ob doctor, like I'm supposed to be doing! It was supposed to be my big "first Ob" visit clinic day, but I was not able to see any! 0 for 8 new mothers today! And the same goes to some of the residents on my L and D shifts when they do various procedures, like pap, pelvic exams, GBS, FFN's, cervidil etc, I cannot even go in the room (the other person on my team is a female and she has no problem seeing and doing everything of course!). The thing is, some of the doctors and residents (especially older ones) I get to follow in clinic or on L and D don't really even ask and I just go in and watch. For example, this one who would say once I have a glove on and a lubricated speculum in hand "POR is going to do the Pap smear." And that's the only time I get to do anything. I understand the July thing with residents, but that shouldn't have much to do with me being in the room and watching/learning. My question is, I feel that the way the doctors and residents I follow ask the patients by just saying "he's a student, can he stay" really is just asking for the patients to say "no." I really feel that they should at least tell them WHY I should be there and how soon I am to becoming a doctor so they don't think I'm just some high schooler or premed shadowing or something. I don't think most patients really know what "third year medical school student" really means "2 years until doctor." Even some people in my family do not know that I'll be a "doctor" in two years, so why would patients? I honestly feel that if I were to go into Ob/gyn (which I'm thinking about since I like the medicine, surgery, and patient follow up aspect of it), I would have little experience with sensitive issues like Pap smear and anything like that to really know if I want to go in the field. What should I do to get more experience, or at least not kicked out of every room for observing procedures and learning? Would you think it would be cool if I go up to the residents and ask them to give a little blurb to the patients for me, or do what the old doctors tend to do (not really even asking, but more or less telling the patients I'll be there and letting the patients object)? How should I ask them to introduce me to inspire confidence, age, and to project the "I'm supposed to be there to learn" aspect in patients? Or what should I try to say myself to patients? Also, any good ways to look older? I have glasses that I do not usually wear (they are black/Indie or Weezer-esque, so I don't think they'd help much, but they do look kinda nerdy). Should I grow facial hair, which I'm not sure I even can? Any suggestions? Thanks! Edit: Note, I took out the mention of being black from the post description of myself, just to avoid making it stick out like a sore thumb! Maybe it's an issue, maybe not. Either way, race and internet discussion boards don't mix well, so forget I mentioned it. EDIT: PLEASE JUST LET THIS THREAD DIE!!!