Odds of Getting Into OOS Over IS

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Now we all know that you have a higher chance of getting into your IS school. However, how often does it happen where you do NOT get into your IS but get into an OOS school. Now this might depend on the schools but so far I am applying to UF (IS), wisconsin, missouri, ncstate, possibly cornell.

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It absolutely does happen. Schools have somewhat different criteria for what they're looking for. I'd suggest considering KSU and ISU as additional OOS options since they take a lot of OOS folks.
 
I know one person who was in-state at Purdue and got into Kansas State but not Purdue. I know someone else who was waitlisted at Purdue (also their in-state) and ended up getting in, but got into both Western and Illinois first.

So, it is certainly possible. Schools look for different thing, and if you end up getting waitlisted, out-of-state waitlists move A LOT more than in-state ones.
 
I personally know 2 people who were rejected from Georgia as their IS and one is now at Kansas, the other at Tennessee. Both had very good stats.
 
Cornell is my in-state. I was accepted to Ohio State, UPenn, Tufts, Kansas, UDublin and Edinburgh...but not Cornell.
 
The only place that rejected me was my in-state, so it certainly does happen.
 
Yup, was accepted at 5 schools but not my in-state which also happens to be UF 🙁. I think it happens quite a bit especially for the more populous states.
 
I didn't get into my instate either (waitlisted at UTK)...so it is worth it to apply to more than your instate school. I was accepted at Miss. state and i'm waitlisted at Auburn
 
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Also got rejected to my IS but accepted at Iowa state and waitlisted at another OOS. It definitely happens and is the argument for applying OOS.

However only apply to OOS if you would actually plan to go (ok with extra $$$ and living away from family, friends). Turning down an OOS acceptance looks bad on next years application.
 
I too got rejected by my IS school NCSU (twice) and got into Auburn OOS/non-contract.
 
I'm another one who was rejected from IS (Michigan State) and accepted OOS at Western (doesn't really count as "out of state" though) and Iowa State. Would have liked to go to my IS simply for financial reasons, but I am perfectly happy with the way that things turned out. The rough part about being IS is that if you get waitlisted. Schools don't generally go too deep into their IS waitlist because not many that are IS opt to decline their seat.
 
i was waitlisted at my IS, vmrcvm. I have known a total of 6 friends who were rejected from there and are currently attending OOS schools.
 
I am another one. Declined twice from my IS FL and accepted OOS at LSU and Tuskegee. I second doing your research about OOS. Applying to many schools to increase your chances is good but if you wouldn't actually go to them, its not worth the money, time or stress. I only applied to these 3 because these were the ones I would go to if accepted. Also, make sure you have or can come up with a good answer as to why you applied OOS when you have an IS. This was brought up in both my OOS interviews (in a condescending way IMO for one of them) Good Luck :luck:🙂
 
Same thing happened with me with my IS, which is UF, (but they hate me so it was expected) but I was waitlisted for Mizzou and Tennessee and was just called off the waitlist for Tennessee. I think in my case, one of the biggest reasons why I was rejected from UF (and why they seem to hate me) is because UF tends to favor its own students and not anyone else, even if they're instate and since I didn't go to UF, I was not favored. poo on you, UF
 
NiennaDimple14 said:
I think in my case, one of the biggest reasons why I was rejected from UF (and why they seem to hate me) is because UF tends to favor its own students and not anyone else, even if they're instate and since I didn't go to UF, I was not favored. poo on you, UF
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Not always. I did my undergraduate at UF and was still rejected. In my file review, he said I was qualified and a good candidate; there were just too many better candidates. 🙁
 
Thanks for the replies guys! I guess I should look at what schools look at before making that assumption.

In reference to UF I hope they dont hold it against me that I am not a UF grad, I went to USF for my undergrad.
 
jtom said:
In reference to UF I hope they dont hold it against me that I am not a UF grad, I went to USF for my undergrad.
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I went to USF for my undergrad too. I would just not listen to the advisors or even the professors when they tell you about your chances of getting into UF for vet school are...or even what your chances for getting into vet school the first or second or even the third time are. It was depressing.
 
jtom said:
Thanks for the replies guys! I guess I should look at what schools look at before making that assumption.

In reference to UF I hope they dont hold it against me that I am not a UF grad, I went to USF for my undergrad.
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Nah, I really don't think they are biased towards schools. Some people say they favor UF students and then some say they favor non-UF students. So, I'd say it just boils down to nil. As a UF student who got rejected I sure didn't recieve any favoritism 😛.
 
http://www.vetmed.ufl.edu/education/dvmadmissions/documents/Stats-2013.pdf

Just to make sure i'm reading this right, that table shows the number of matriculated students that came from each college, right? If so, wow. UF has 50 spots for c/o 2013. i would say something is fishy about that. assuming the total class is around 100 people, 50% came from one school? correct me if i'm wrong because this just blows my mind.

fyi-i am not a FL resident and i did not apply to FL. i just did some investigating myself because i was curious. if i read the table wrong please let me know!

edit: looks like FL's total class size is 88?? really? 50/88 matriculates came from the same school? someone answer me, is this right??? so crazyyyyy if it is
 
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BlacKAT33 said:
http://www.vetmed.ufl.edu/education/dvmadmissions/documents/Stats-2013.pdf

Just to make sure i'm reading this right, that table shows the number of matriculated students that came from each college, right? If so, wow. UF has 50 spots for c/o 2013. i would say something is fishy about that. assuming the total class is around 100 people, 50% came from one school? correct me if i'm wrong because this just blows my mind.

fyi-i am not a FL resident and i did not apply to FL. i just did some investigating myself because i was curious. if i read the table wrong please let me know!

edit: looks like FL's total class size is 88?? really? 50/88 matriculates came from the same school? someone answer me, is this right??? so crazyyyyy if it is
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Yea, it's right. However, it's not too far of a stretch to say that a lot of the FL in-state applicants go to UF.
 
BlacKAT33 said:
http://www.vetmed.ufl.edu/education/dvmadmissions/documents/Stats-2013.pdf

Just to make sure i'm reading this right, that table shows the number of matriculated students that came from each college, right? If so, wow. UF has 50 spots for c/o 2013. i would say something is fishy about that. assuming the total class is around 100 people, 50% came from one school? correct me if i'm wrong because this just blows my mind.
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Same thing with Michigan State...if I'm not mistaken--the c/o 2013 had 37 students who did their undergrad at MSU (out of 75 spots I believe). The way that I rationalized it was that students who have known that they want to go to vet school for a long time, so they attended MSU for undergrad because they knew that it had a vet school. Those students also probably obtained tons of experience hours and such. Unlike myself needless to say 😳. It's just something that can be tracked-- Little kid wants to be vet, works in clinics throughout HS, goes to MSU, gets great grades, and there you have it--one excellent candidate! Everyone that I know that went to MSU as an IS, went there for undergrad...not saying that that means anything though.

ETA: What I said is kind of along the same line as what zxz130 just posted
 
jpeterman13 said:
Same thing with Michigan State...if I'm not mistaken--the c/o 2013 had 37 students who did their undergrad at MSU (out of 75 spots I believe). The way that I rationalized it was that students who have known that they want to go to vet school for a long time, so they attended MSU for undergrad because they knew that it had a vet school. Those students also probably obtained tons of experience hours and such. Unlike myself needless to say 😳. It's just something that can be tracked-- Little kid wants to be vet, works in clinics throughout HS, goes to MSU, gets great grades, and there you have it--one excellent candidate! Everyone that I know that went to MSU as an IS, went there for undergrad...not saying that that means anything though.

ETA: What I said is kind of along the same line as what zxz130 just posted
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well i'm glad this didn't apply to me: My "IS" school is in a diff state so I never had that luxury unless I paid OOS tuition for undergrade
 
BlacKAT33 said:
well i'm glad this didn't apply to me: My "IS" school is in a diff state so I never had that luxury unless I paid OOS tuition for undergrade
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funny thing...I didn't even get into my Michigan State out of high school! My grades weren't good enough 🙄...it was pathetic.
 
I think it really depends on the schools that you are applying to and what your IS school happens to be. If you are applying to schools like Iowa & Ohio, which offer a large number of seats for OOS students, they your chances for OOS could be better than IS. I ended up being flat out denied by my IS last year but interviewed and was waitlisted with two OOS schools. Also, it is important to note that IS schools vary greatly on the number of residents they accept.

Example: (From 2011 VMSAR)

Mississippi had 67 IS applicants in 09-10 of which they took 42 - so 63% of IS applicants got in.

VS.

Penn - which had 242 IS applicants of which they took 65 - so only 27% of IS applicants got in.
 
This year UC Davis had 546 IS applicants and accepted 144, so 26%, about on par with Penn even though there are a lot more seats and ISers make up most of the class. I definitely know people who didn't even get an interview here but got in or waitlisted OOS.

Also of note, 45 in the incoming class did undergrad here. HOWEVER, 158 from the school applied, more than any other school by far.
 
I did look at the UFL webpage and yes it does appear most of those accepted are UF grads, which I had no idea was the case. They clearly are biased towards their grads. While it could be worse in that I could not be a florida resident, it is a bit disconcerting that so many seats are taken up by one school, a school I did not go to. I did see though they did accept a few usf grads and a decent number from other florida public schools but this still makes me nervous.

All I can do is try.
 
LOL Florida is getting some heavy press on this page.

I also was not accepted by UF as my in-state (was offered an interview off of the waitlist that I declined) and was accepted at Mizzou.

As another also, I graduated from USF, as well. Small world. 🙂
 
To be fair, it could just be that most pre-vet folks decide to attend the university that has the vet school, so there are more applicants from there. That's certainly the case in Oklahoma - way more pre-vetters choose to attend OSU over OU.

So, who knows, but I don't know if it's fair to assume that Florida is biased based on what people are saying here. We didn't have may UF folks on the forums this year for one reason or another... if we did (as we have in years past) I'm sure they would be balancing out the comments a bit more.
 
twelvetigers said:
To be fair, it could just be that most pre-vet folks decide to attend the university that has the vet school, so there are more applicants from there. That's certainly the case in Oklahoma - way more pre-vetters choose to attend OSU over OU.

So, who knows, but I don't know if it's fair to assume that Florida is biased based on what people are saying here. We didn't have may UF folks on the forums this year for one reason or another... if we did (as we have in years past) I'm sure they would be balancing out the comments a bit more.
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Agreed. The acceptance rate for students from a particular undergrad school is much more relevant that the number of seats given to students of that school.

Even then (as Nyanko so gently pointed out in the UC vs Cal State disparity in the UC Davis thread) there is the question of the likelihood of stats and/or the quality of candidates being largely comparable.
 
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