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Let it out. I've heard and seen all of those happy acceptances, but I guess, I've got to be the first to start this 🙁 thread. But feel free to make it a 😎 place.


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Ebola Virus said:
Let it out. I've heard and seen all of those happy acceptances, but I guess, I've got to be the first to start this 🙁 thread. But feel free to make it a 😎 place.


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Don't worry, I'm guessing I'll be joining you soon
 
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Don't worry, I'm guessing I'll be joining you soon
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Actually, I think it's a relieve to know ahead of time that the school isn't a best fit for me. I emailed the admission and ask them what to do with my application. Besides, after that, I've received 5 interview invites. So I guess, not all is lost in learning from the rejection.
 
Ebola Virus said:
Actually, I think it's a relieve to know ahead of time that the school isn't a best fit for me. I emailed the admission and ask them what to do with my application. Besides, after that, I've received 5 interview invites. So I guess, not all is lost in learning from the rejection.
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Nice! Congrats on the interviews! I haven't recieved any yet, so I'm getting a little nervous. I thought I was going to be so early in the cycle (AACOMAS verified 6/20) but then I ended up retaking the MCAT and screwed myself over big time....I guess we'll see, maybe this year will be a practice run at applying to medical school, and next year I'll get it right! haha
 
davenp73 said:
Nice! Congrats on the interviews! I haven't recieved any yet, so I'm getting a little nervous. I thought I was going to be so early in the cycle (AACOMAS verified 6/20) but then I ended up retaking the MCAT and screwed myself over big time....I guess we'll see, maybe this year will be a practice run at applying to medical school, and next year I'll get it right! haha
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Thanks, and good luck with your application. I don't see why you're not in a good position, except with a late MCAT, but still you're way ahead of most people who's just submitted their AACOMAS app, or haven't done so yet. Don't worry about receiving interviews, apply broadly and then the last thing you'll have to worry about is not receiving any, but instead, worry about the cost of going to all of those places. :laugh:
 
Let it out. I've heard and seen all of those happy acceptances, but I guess, I've got to be the first to start this 🙁 thread. But feel free to make it a 😎 place.


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...in their defense the email was very nice...
 
Let it out. I've heard and seen all of those happy acceptances, but I guess, I've got to be the first to start this 🙁 thread. But feel free to make it a 😎 place.


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...in their defense the email was very nice..
 
Ebola and Proctodoc, do you have any idea why RVU rejected you post-secondary?
 
avervisal said:
Ebola and Proctodoc, do you have any idea why RVU rejected you post-secondary?
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I can't speak for everyone who was rejected from RVU, but my secondary essays do not convey what they were looking for. Although I have had extensive exposure to osteopathic practices and experience, I had way too much clinical and basic science research. Adcom noticed it in my primary and secondary that I had an interest/strong exposure to what they were not able to fulfill (since I was a first author on a couple of manuscripts and poster presentations, wrote my own grant and was funded by it, etc...). The email they sent was very helpful and I was happy to know that I wasn't a good fit for the school and vice versa. In the end, even if I was accepted to RVU, I wouldn't matriculate b/c I don't think it had what I needed.

Chose what you think is right for you, as I'm not complaining about RVU rejection since I've got 6 interview invites and another one yet to schedule. Instead I applaud RVU for not stringing me along like other schools would, but instead let me know immediately where I stand. Good luck to you in your endeavors.
 
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I'm not even sure how DO rejection work. I mean I'm assuming we all have similar stats (3.5, 25-27) right? Any reason for the rejections? I know MD schools are brutal in their rejection process--cash the check first and then send you are sweet rejection letter. Some don't even bother sending you a secondary.
Most DO schools instead utilize waiting-lists which can be pretty loooong. Is that a better form of rejection or is an outright rejection better?
 
Ebola Virus said:
I can't speak for everyone who was rejected from RVU, but my secondary essays do not convey what they were looking for. Although I have had extensive exposure to osteopathic practices and experience, I had way too much clinical and basic science research. Adcom noticed it in my primary and secondary that I had an interest/strong exposure to what they were not able to fulfill (since I was a first author on a couple of manuscripts and poster presentations, wrote my own grant and was funded by it, etc...). The email they sent was very helpful and I was happy to know that I wasn't a good fit for the school and vice versa. In the end, even if I was accepted to RVU, I wouldn't matriculate b/c I don't think it had what I needed.
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RVUCOM is cordial and forthcoming with acceptances and rejections and they seem to have strong stat requirements. Contrary to your impression, research is a positive thing with regard to RVUCOM in my experience. I received an acceptance there last year and I have extensive research experience as a non-trad with multiple accompanying publications. My stats are also fairly strong with MCAT >30, undergrad cum 3.3 or so, postbacc at 3.5. The only limiting factors for me were family and finances - so KCUMB had to be my choice - otherwise, I'd have been at RVUCOM for a wide variety of reasons.

At least they determined that the "fit" wasn't right early in the game; I had a few schools string me along last cycle and it was very frustrating.

Best of luck.
 
andexterouss said:
I'm not even sure how DO rejection work. I mean I'm assuming we all have similar stats (3.5, 25-27) right? Any reason for the rejections? I know MD schools are brutal in their rejection process--cash the check first and then send you are sweet rejection letter. Some don't even bother sending you a secondary.
Most DO schools instead utilize waiting-lists which can be pretty loooong. Is that a better form of rejection or is an outright rejection better?
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You make a good point with regard to "cashing that check". It's painful.

I can speak from experience: As far as DO schools go, they tend to become more selective when there's a large and qualified applicant pool and/or they know outright (based on interview or pre-qual stats) that youre not a good fit. I'd vote for the outright rejection personally, but waitlists aren't bad if you're in a position to make a choice at the end of the cycle, i.e. not against the ropes with deadlines. Good luck.
 
Well I would prefer the outright rejection because you don't end up getting false hope. i was alt listed at NOVA last year so i spent february till mid summer holding out hope for a spot that wasn't coming. I prefer quick and painful or slow and even more painful any day.
 
Not to pour salt on a wound here....but how did you find out from RVU about the rejection? Snail mail, email, phone...

Sorry for the rejections all, but thanks in advance for any replies 🙂
 
davenp73 said:
Nice! Congrats on the interviews! I haven't recieved any yet, so I'm getting a little nervous. I thought I was going to be so early in the cycle (AACOMAS verified 6/20) but then I ended up retaking the MCAT and screwed myself over big time....I guess we'll see, maybe this year will be a practice run at applying to medical school, and next year I'll get it right! haha
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I'm sort of in a similar position as you. My retake slowed me down in secondaries; now I'm concerned I'm late and maybe even did worse on my retake. Is your posted MCAT (in MDapplicants) your original or retake? How did you mean your retake screwed you over?
 
I dont' think the rejection process is any different between MD and DO. It is between schools that there is a difference. DO schools aren't quite as big on numbers, but there ARE MD schools like that. I just assume my rejection wasn't because of stats but because of how I came off on that day. I would've liked a reason, but I can think of several of my mishaps during the day. I'm not Mr. Osteopathic and KCOM is very steeped in their tradition. While I knew that, I don't hide the fact that I don't believe there really is a difference aside from the extra course.
 
Talk about a bad day. AZCOM and KCOM today
 
well don't u have like 2 one hr interviews at KCOM? It's so easy for them to find a little thing or two to rationalize a rejection..i'm soo nervous for that interview..seems like a lot of pressure to be spot on for that long
 
It really wasn't that bad.
 
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:meanie: REJECTED!!! Why? I called them and they said "You don't know enough about osteopathic medicine." Only one of my interviewers out of 3 asked me why DO. It was the MD of the group, who asked me as she was walking me back to the conference room because she had talked about herself throughout my entire interview.

This school wasn't for me anyway. With 30,000 undergrads so close, I don't know how you'd get any piece. Also, they lost my DO LOR and made the decision before they read what the DO I shadowed said about me.
They told me to shadow a DO for 50-100 hours, and I'd get in next year. I already have over 1,000 shadowing a DO, and I've read several books about osteopathy.

THE WORST INTERVIEWS EVER. 7 hours from home, $300 to apply and disorganized interview, and nothing to show.

Oh well, I have several MD interviews coming up. Maybe they can see past my apparent lack of DO knowledge. Somehow I got into every other DO school I applied to with this apparent lack of knowledge.

WARNING: It seemed pre-determined that I was rejected when I walked in. The interviewers didn't seem interested in me from the start. :laugh: What a joke.

Sorry if anyone is in love with this school. Just felt the need to vent my hatred of VCOM and Virginia Tech.
 
Only 300? Lucky.

I spent close to 800 for kcom and about 600 for azcom!
 
Before someone makes fun of me, I meant peace and not piece.
 
Ouch, guys.

Han14tra, do you think that maybe "It seemed pre-determined that I was rejected when I walked in. The interviewers didn't seem interested in me from the start." <-- could have been attributed to your higher numbers than their average applicants (making this assumption based off your several MD interview invites) so they automatically assumed you were applying DO as "backup" hence the attitude? That is what I am mostly afraid of, and am actually considering withdrawing my DO applications even though I have 2 DO LOR's, etc. but honestly I would be happiest at my state MD school so waiting an extra year might not be such a big deal after all 🙁 And 1000+ shadowing DO hours plus the additional 50-100 just to get in? Is that an exaggeration, or does mostly everyone who matriculates have this minimum requirement??
 
:meanie: REJECTED!!! Why? I called them and they said "You don't know enough about osteopathic medicine." Only one of my interviewers out of 3 asked me why DO. It was the MD of the group, who asked me as she was walking me back to the conference room because she had talked about herself throughout my entire interview.

You could have easily hinted at it. I wasn't asked specifically why DO in one of the interviews either. But I was able to interweave it into the answers I was giving. IMO, I think my stronghold was my anecdotes for OMM and how that was my major reason for pursuing a DO degree.

This school wasn't for me anyway. With 30,000 undergrads so close, I don't know how you'd get any piece.

We were told there is graduate level housing. If you live in those areas you shouldn't have trouble. Also, since you'll more than likely have a car you can live a bit away from campus and the UGs; its cheaper too.

Also, they lost my DO LOR and made the decision before they read what the DO I shadowed said about me.
They told me to shadow a DO for 50-100 hours, and I'd get in next year. I already have over 1,000 shadowing a DO, and I've read several books about osteopathy.

Books can't be the only source of your knowledge for osteopathic medicine. I don't argue you shadowed that much, but that does seem a bit strange they told you shadow more. Maybe your experience wasn't as meaningful as it could have been?

THE WORST INTERVIEWS EVER. 7 hours from home, $300 to apply and disorganized interview, and nothing to show.

The interview wasn't disorganized. We had the welcome and info sessions. We then had our interviews. Next was a tour, which I feel could have been a bit more organized. Lunch was great; the confidential session was a nice touch. The rest of the day flowed well too. The van tour is a bit much, but it was better than walking around.

Oh well, I have several MD interviews coming up. Maybe they can see past my apparent lack of DO knowledge. Somehow I got into every other DO school I applied to with this apparent lack of knowledge.

Now you're just hating. Go have a beer.

WARNING: It seemed pre-determined that I was rejected when I walked in. The interviewers didn't seem interested in me from the start. :laugh: What a joke.

You have to engage your interviewers and find common interests. I was able to find a common interest in every interviewer, even if it was bringing up Dr. W's motorcycle jacket next to his labcoat 😉.

Sorry if anyone is in love with this school. Just felt the need to vent my hatred of VCOM and Virginia Tech.

Thats fine, there are a lot of interviewees. Best of luck and it was nice meeting you at the interview although I don't know who you are.
 
rennykim said:
Ouch, guys.

Han14tra, do you think that maybe "It seemed pre-determined that I was rejected when I walked in. The interviewers didn't seem interested in me from the start." <-- could have been attributed to your higher numbers than their average applicants (making this assumption based off your several MD interview invites) so they automatically assumed you were applying DO as "backup" hence the attitude? That is what I am mostly afraid of, and am actually considering withdrawing my DO applications even though I have 2 DO LOR's, etc. but honestly I would be happiest at my state MD school so waiting an extra year might not be such a big deal after all 🙁 And 1000+ shadowing DO hours plus the additional 50-100 just to get in? Is that an exaggeration, or does mostly everyone who matriculates have this minimum requirement??
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To elaborate, I had 3.52 and 29Q. My "higher" stats didn't affect me negatively. Its all how you present your knowledge of the profession and your reasonings. Also, the MCAT holds less weight than the GPA and interviews... Average matriculating GPA is a 3.5 which is not low.
 
rennykim said:
Ouch, guys.

Han14tra, do you think that maybe "It seemed pre-determined that I was rejected when I walked in. The interviewers didn't seem interested in me from the start." <-- could have been attributed to your higher numbers than their average applicants (making this assumption based off your several MD interview invites) so they automatically assumed you were applying DO as "backup" hence the attitude? That is what I am mostly afraid of, and am actually considering withdrawing my DO applications even though I have 2 DO LOR's, etc. but honestly I would be happiest at my state MD school so waiting an extra year might not be such a big deal after all 🙁 And 1000+ shadowing DO hours plus the additional 50-100 just to get in? Is that an exaggeration, or does mostly everyone who matriculates have this minimum requirement??
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where did you hear about that requirement??? I think somone was yankin your chain.

Bacchus said:
han14tra... I'm really sorry. However, I think you need to wash away the haterade. To renny... I had "higher" stats to be applying their as well, but was accepted.
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Yea, I dont think "My stats are too high" is a legitimate reason to think you were rejected. Its like being "overqualified." If you have high stats, show an interest in the professino, and interview well, why the hell wouldnt they accept you? Somethin must have gone wrong along the way.....
 
Each interviewer asked which schools I applied to and I told them 13 MD schools and 4 DO schools. I said that I was more interested in DO because of learning OMM. Are you suppose to also give them the standard line (I want to be a DO because its holistic, they believe that the body can heal itself if given a nurturing environment, and they focus on prevention). Personally, I think all doctors MD or DO do this so I'm not comfortable giving them this line.

I have spent 1000+ hours shadowing and they did tell me I needed 50-100 more. I did a 10 week internship this summer at an osteopathic hospital and I started shadowing DOs in high school because I knew I wanted to be a DO.

All of my interviews were conversational. I talked to one lady about her traveling in England (since my brother lives there). I talked to the 2nd guy about the curriculum at VCOM, and the 3rd MD interviewer was a radiologist. I mentioned I shadowed a radiologist and she completely went off talking about her research and asked me no questions. Then, when she was walking me back to the conference room, she hurried up and asked me a bunch of questions. What do you in this case? I wanted to tell them about myself, but they kept getting off topic. I don't feel that they really knew who I was. Especially since they lost my DO LOR
 
Also, I don't think the 50-100 additional hours is required. They just thought I, personally, needed to learn more. I called and asked Bea why I was rejected and they were really great about telling me. Hopefully, I'll be more prepared for additional interviews because of their information.

I've calmed down a bit because I wouldn't have gone to VCOM anyway. I've already gotten in to my first choice DO school. It was just good practice I guess.

So for that, thank you VCOM and good luck VCOM Class of 2013. Bacchus, glad to hear you got in. You sound like you're serious about going there.
 
umean2tellme said:
Well I would prefer the outright rejection because you don't end up getting false hope. i was alt listed at NOVA last year so i spent february till mid summer holding out hope for a spot that wasn't coming. I prefer quick and painful or slow and even more painful any day.
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Did you retake the MCAT between applying last year and this year? i can't believe you weren't accepted somewhere last year if you applied with that MCAT, or was there some other significant change?
 
han14tra said:
Each interviewer asked which schools I applied to and I told them 13 MD schools and 4 DO schools. I said that I was more interested in DO because of learning OMM. Are you suppose to also give them the standard line (I want to be a DO because its holistic, they believe that the body can heal itself if given a nurturing environment, and they focus on prevention). Personally, I think all doctors MD or DO do this so I'm not comfortable giving them this line.
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Hi! Just wondering if that actually IS a bad answer. I learned about osteopathic medicine from shadowing a D.O., who gave me a great real life example of the body being connected in so many ways and therefore when dealing with medicine, holistic treatment is better. From there, I have seen osteopathic medicine practiced first hand in the E.R. where I work. Is this a horrible answer?! It's the truth, but, wondering if I should fix this up for my interviews from here on out and talk about OMM instead... ????!
Thanks in advance.
 
I think as long as you can back up your answer with personal experience you'll be fine. I just wouldn't give them a line from an internet website, and that's it.

I shadowed both MDs and DOs, however, and saw no difference other than the OMT. LECOM and WVSOM liked the emphasis on OMT. I think too many applicants just recite what's on osteopathic.org.
 
I have a really hard time with the "Why D.O.?" because my dad is an MD and a damn fine doctor that doesn't "treat the disease". The ONLY difference to me is the first 2 years of curriculum and more residencies at community hospitals rather than academic centers. I tend to talk a lot about having that little extra in my toolkit when the time comes and refining my ability to find landmarks or avoid more drastic treatments. That is probably my biggest problem.....Now that I think about it, the two schools I've been accepted at had MDs interviewing me and laughed and said not to worry when I kind of sheepishly mentioned my dad was an MD.
 
rennykim said:
Ouch, guys.

Han14tra, do you think that maybe "It seemed pre-determined that I was rejected when I walked in. The interviewers didn't seem interested in me from the start." <-- could have been attributed to your higher numbers than their average applicants (making this assumption based off your several MD interview invites) so they automatically assumed you were applying DO as "backup" hence the attitude? That is what I am mostly afraid of, and am actually considering withdrawing my DO applications even though I have 2 DO LOR's, etc. but honestly I would be happiest at my state MD school so waiting an extra year might not be such a big deal after all 🙁 And 1000+ shadowing DO hours plus the additional 50-100 just to get in? Is that an exaggeration, or does mostly everyone who matriculates have this minimum requirement??
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I've got several MD interviews and have above average numbers. It is a shame if an ad com member would treat someone thusly. I've been treated with respect and interest at my DO interviews. (Western and UMDNJ).
 
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:meanie: REJECTED!!! Why? I called them and they said "You don't know enough about osteopathic medicine." Only one of my interviewers out of 3 asked me why DO. It was the MD of the group, who asked me as she was walking me back to the conference room because she had talked about herself throughout my entire interview.

This school wasn't for me anyway. With 30,000 undergrads so close, I don't know how you'd get any piece. Also, they lost my DO LOR and made the decision before they read what the DO I shadowed said about me.
They told me to shadow a DO for 50-100 hours, and I'd get in next year. I already have over 1,000 shadowing a DO, and I've read several books about osteopathy.

THE WORST INTERVIEWS EVER. 7 hours from home, $300 to apply and disorganized interview, and nothing to show.

Oh well, I have several MD interviews coming up. Maybe they can see past my apparent lack of DO knowledge. Somehow I got into every other DO school I applied to with this apparent lack of knowledge.

WARNING: It seemed pre-determined that I was rejected when I walked in. The interviewers didn't seem interested in me from the start. :laugh: What a joke.

Sorry if anyone is in love with this school. Just felt the need to vent my hatred of VCOM and Virginia Tech.
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Thats strange. I got into VCOM last year with exactly 0 hours of DO shadowing.
 
(Better they reject me before I reject them)

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KCOM: MossPoh (post interview)
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Pffff. Who wants to end up there anyway? (I got rejected as well)
 
MrMattOglesby said:
exactly.
i'm glad that they rejected me. I wouldn't want to be accepted to some med school and sit next to some kid who was unhappy cuz he didnt like the place but went anyways cuz it was the only school that let him in.
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Exactly. And the nice thing is that not only are you in somewhere else but you have choices!

It amazes me in the difference of experiences at various schools. After 4 interviews AZ is my favorite. My experience was amazing, and so was the interview. That said I interviewed at another nice school and was completely disappointed due to the interviewers and how it was conducted.

Either way Mosspoh/Matt and others of us are very fortunate to have decisions to make. What a great "problem" eh!? Though I must admit after 2+ acceptances the rejections still sting a little bit even if I didn't like the school.
 
Well I'm glad you guys didn't like the school -- it's currently my #2 choice, so more open seats for me 😀

Congrats to all of you on your multiple acceptances. I hope to be in the same position in a couple months from now!!
 
Rejections always sting. Part of me wants to go "I was accepted to 13 schools!" just to make my end choice even more impressive.
 
I'm still trying to figure how i get rejected from Lecom Bradenton interviewing on the first day of interviews and being one of like 3 in state people there lol. My interview must have truly sucked ass.
 
umean2tellme said:
I'm still trying to figure how i get rejected from Lecom Bradenton interviewing on the first day of interviews and being one of like 3 in state people there lol. My interview must have truly sucked ass.
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anything that stood out in your mind?? Maybe they just felt that from what they learned about you PBL wouldnt be the best way for you to learn or maybe that in the long run you wouldnt be happy at the school?

I'm not goin to take any post-interview rejections personally. The interview is a chance for the schools to evaluate you outside of your GPA/MCAT so they can assess whether or not you will be a good fit for the program. If a school rejects me post interview, then I just take it as them saying "Look RySerr, you are a competitive applicant, which is why we invited you to interview, but we just think you'll end up happier somewhere else (for whatever reason)."

This is especially true when you are interviewing this early in the season. They have to konw that you will be getting acceptances elsewhere, ya know?
 
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