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Hello everyone. I am a second year who will write the exam in June 2011. Meanwhile let this be a good thread where everyone share their study progress and recent trend of the exam.
I just took my first NBME (#11), and I was surprised at how difficult the behavioral "what is the right thing to do?" type questions were. Wow. What is everyone studying for behavioral, b/c that section in FA is obviously not sufficient. I have BRS Behavioral, haven't read that, should I? It's long, surely there's something else out there that would work also...don't wanna spend too much time on that. Any advice?
Thanks for the update! I got a quick question. How important did you feel RR Goljan and his audio were? I don't have much time left and I'm trying to stick with the most useful stuff only. And how many images did you have? Thanks!
I used this http://www.visiblebody.com/ during anatomy class in MS1...soo helpful and mostly accurate. Much better that using an atlas at times.... heres a demo http://www.visiblebody.com/tour_demos
They used to have a 1 month free trial which I used like 6 times with different email addresses...no more trial now. But its only like 15 bucks for 5 months if you're a student.
Thanks!
I looked at their 1 minute demo and it looks good. But there were no labels at all. In the real thing is every structure labeled? And how is it for neuroanatomy?
Anyone know if you can bring up the lab values and have it be to the right side of the questions at all times? I normally do this on NBMEs to decrease the width of the question stems
I ask b/c I hate how in the NBMEs, the text extends all the way across the monitor... and you have to scan the whole width of your screen for each line.
Also, is there a way I can see the tutorial somewhere online before the test so I can use those 15 mins for break? I hear there's a buncha keyboard shortcuts
bump if anyone has any insight... taking the beast tomorrow![]()
bump if anyone has any insight... taking the beast tomorrow![]()
Wow. Wrote the exam today. Everything seemed like a blur. I was so happy it looked exactly like uworld, but then again, as I was pacing through it, I was getting down and sadder cause it was just as hard; harder even.
Didn't get any MRI. I got mostly endo (the inc, decreased type of relationship), lots of elderly with meds and how they affect each other, some micro, maybe 10 biostat questions; genetics like 2-3 pedigrees and 2 questions about a couple's offspring's chances of getting such a disease if one is a carrier- you know the drill. The harder part is that the vignette would ask you about a certain disease- no buzzwords or anything and then the choices given to you would be the description of what type of mutation might have happened. And then the rest are mostly pathophysiology where Uworld questions I think are good at.
I think the worst for me, is that it was timed, and I didn't really have time to do all of it. I didn't get tired, I even did 2 blocks at a time, cause it really literally went too quick for me. If only I have some more minutes just so I could go back to the other questions I missed,but, don't we all? *sigh*
My advice would be to have a solid knowledge of everything. Know the basics. Don't waste time reading tons of material, especially if you have a good background. You need to know FA cover to cover, and memorize by heart, as if you're seeing a patient when you read the questions.
And get 8 hours of sleep before.
Here's hoping the best for all of us. God bless us all.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Do you think that maybe nerves and being anxious contributed to you feeling like Step was harder than UW? I don't often hear that.
Just took it today came out feeling like all of dreams were crushed.
I was surprised at just how similar it was to Uworld, it's the EXACT layout which is great, I didn't get a lot of anatomy questions [lol which is good since I didn't bother reviewing the innervation of the lower limbs] it didn't really seem that hard knowledge wise I just didn't know a lot of things.
Preparing for the worst case scenario and so I'll start back studying after my week vacation.
if you're talking only about the ethics questions, then BRS has a nice section on that, but the kaplan chapter in the BSP book is really good as well. If the UW questions aren't enough, if you have the kaplan qbank/rx take a look at those. Those type of questions are kind of a mix between knowing what's right + knowing what they're looking for (actually, I guess that's just about every damn questions haha). Repetition of questions is key for those IMO.
unless you planned on failing it, you don't get to retake the exam
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do scores come out tomorrow?
yup....expecting mine sometime in the morning.....😱
I took it yesterday as well. My question prep consisted of doing all of Kaplan Q bank, UWorld, NBME 7 and UW sim exams 1 and 2. Other than that, I spent most of my time going through First Aid. I got through all of it twice, and some of it 3 times. I feel like for the bulk of it FA is sufficient, the rest comes from test taking ability that you gain by doing as many practice questions as possible. With that said, there is ALWAYS gonna be something that you don't know and you just try to narrow the answer choices down and make an educated guess.
I would say the difficulty felt very similar to UWorld. I only had 2 heart sound questions, one was very straightforward, the other didn't seem to have an answer choice that made sense. Several genetic pedigrees, all the pharm save 1 drug was out of FA (2009). Biochem was pretty much out of FA, except for a weird question about tRNA that I may have just been reading wrong. Only one behavioral science question that I wasn't moderately sure about. I felt like the lab results were really long for several questions and it required you to check like 15 values just to make sure you aren't missing something. Not too many calculations, although I did have one difficult one about Vd that I still don't know how to do.
I didn't have any problem with timing, although I'm generally a fast test taker. From what I read on the NBME site, most of us taking it in late May/all of June will have to wait until July 13 for our scores. That's really disappointing, but if I can come close to the scores I got on practice tests, I'd be willing to forgive it 🙂.
Quick question. When you say FA covered the bulk. Do you mean like a little over 50% or like the vast majority of it (80-90%)? And did you get any strange anatomy questions? Thanks!
I just took my first NBME (#11), and I was surprised at how difficult the behavioral "what is the right thing to do?" type questions were. Wow. What is everyone studying for behavioral, b/c that section in FA is obviously not sufficient. I have BRS Behavioral, haven't read that, should I? It's long, surely there's something else out there that would work also...don't wanna spend too much time on that. Any advice?
yup....expecting mine sometime in the morning.....😱
Did you take it May 4th, or the week before that?
I just want to get a feel for whether it's taking 3 weeks or 4 for most people. I took it on the 4th, and would love to get my score today.
i havent heard of it taking 4 weeks for anybody, its pretty much always been 3. I took it on the 5th. Man, last night was the worst sleep ive had in a looong time. I just want to get it over with already!
i havent heard of it taking 4 weeks for anybody, its pretty much always been 3. I took it on the 5th. Man, last night was the worst sleep ive had in a looong time. I just want to get it over with already!
nice job!Just got mine. 230/99.
A little lower than predicted by the standard methods, but I am happy with it.
Just got mine. 230/99.
A little lower than predicted by the standard methods, but I am happy with it.
Should be next week, at least as I understand it.Wrote it on the 9th...sweating bullets![]()
Awrite then, back to vacation mode. Autobots, roll out!Should be next week, at least as I understand it.
Just got mine. 230/99.
A little lower than predicted by the standard methods, but I am happy with it.
Just got mine. 230/99.
A little lower than predicted by the standard methods, but I am happy with it.
just took it today...and didn't feel too good afterwards.
I was marking about 10 questions per block and after I got home I checked some of the unmarked questions (aka questions that I thought I got right), and found out they were wrong...there were like 8 of those. and then I stopped checking cause i don't wanna feel more depressed. sigh...I was hitting high 230s in the practice test, but at this point, I'll be lucky to get above 230. I guess i'll found out in 6 weeks..the wait is killing me
just took it today...and didn't feel too good afterwards.
I was marking about 10 questions per block and after I got home I checked some of the unmarked questions (aka questions that I thought I got right), and found out they were wrong...there were like 8 of those. and then I stopped checking cause i don't wanna feel more depressed. sigh...I was hitting high 230s in the practice test, but at this point, I'll be lucky to get above 230. I guess i'll found out in 6 weeks..the wait is killing me
Test was insane. I got destroyed. Way harder than UW or the NBMEs. I went in there feeling pretty good since I was doing well on the last few NBMEs, and I had heard 11 and 12 were a good representation. Man, I was wrong: the real deal made NBME 12 look like a joke. I would mark 6-7 questions per block on the NBMEs.
On the real deal: For 5 out of the 7 blocks, I marked 18-22 questions, basically half the block :/ Block 1 was the worst for me. I ended up marking questions 1-10 consecutively. Very very demoralizing. I was surprised by the lack of giveaways. There were maybe 2 questions/block that were considered "easy." No giveaways, no high yield topics. Question stems were twice as long. The answer choices were very very close. I think this was what stood out the most. With the NBMEs, very few questions had close answer choices. There were so many Qs where I had to narrow down the answer from 3 choices.. never had this happened before.
Content wise: good stuff first: barely any anatomy, easy embryo,easy pharm
Bad: Surprisingly, the hardest was Microbio on my test. The most random bugs: the little random details you wouldn't expect anyone to ask... bugs I'd never encountered on any other practice question. Lots of biochem: some was fine, some were tricky.There wasn't that much Immuno, but damn it was ridiculous. Random cytokines/Interleukins that were not in FA. The biggest problem I had with the test was that you couldn't get that far with "reasoning" ... you either knew it or you didn't. I got unlucky in some areas. For ex, endocrinology is probably my strongest subject. So I didn't spend much time studying random details that simply never really appeared on practice questions. I ended up having 5-6 questions on IGF-1, something I glanced at maybe once in my studying.
Overall hardest test I've ever taken. If I absolutely had to pick one source that was similar, I guess it'd have to be UWorld. Practice NBMEs were not very helpful for preparation for the test. The test was all details... the more you know, the longer you studied, the better you'd do I guess. You've gotta know everything. Score prediction: 20 points lower than practice tests.
Test was insane. I got destroyed. Way harder than UW or the NBMEs. I went in there feeling pretty good since I was doing well on the last few NBMEs, and I had heard 11 and 12 were a good representation. Man, I was wrong: the real deal made NBME 12 look like a joke. I would mark 6-7 questions per block on the NBMEs.
On the real deal: For 5 out of the 7 blocks, I marked 18-22 questions, basically half the block :/ Block 1 was the worst for me. I ended up marking questions 1-10 consecutively. Very very demoralizing. I was surprised by the lack of giveaways. There were maybe 2 questions/block that were considered "easy." No giveaways, no high yield topics. Question stems were twice as long. The answer choices were very very close. I think this was what stood out the most. With the NBMEs, very few questions had close answer choices. There were so many Qs where I had to narrow down the answer from 3 choices.. never had this happened before.
Content wise: good stuff first: barely any anatomy, easy embryo,easy pharm
Bad: Surprisingly, the hardest was Microbio on my test. The most random bugs: the little random details you wouldn't expect anyone to ask... bugs I'd never encountered on any other practice question. Lots of biochem: some was fine, some were tricky.There wasn't that much Immuno, but damn it was ridiculous. Random cytokines/Interleukins that were not in FA. The biggest problem I had with the test was that you couldn't get that far with "reasoning" ... you either knew it or you didn't. I got unlucky in some areas. For ex, endocrinology is probably my strongest subject. So I didn't spend much time studying random details that simply never really appeared on practice questions. I ended up having 5-6 questions on IGF-1, something I glanced at maybe once in my studying.
Overall hardest test I've ever taken. If I absolutely had to pick one source that was similar, I guess it'd have to be UWorld. Practice NBMEs were not very helpful for preparation for the test. The test was all details... the more you know, the longer you studied, the better you'd do I guess. You've gotta know everything. Score prediction: 20 points lower than practice tests.
Hang in there... Maybe you got the test that will have a humongous curve. Your experience is freaking me out a little though...
Your practice test scores were awesome...I'm sure this score will be very similar to your practice tests. Even if your score drops 10 pts, you're still in a great position.lol sorry didn't mean to do that... I'm hoping it had a good curve. Many other people had "fair" tests. You don't really know.. so go in there confident.
Looks like we had a fairly similar experience. Lets keep our fingers crossed that the curve will be generous and that it wasn't simply us getting slammed on our weaknesses.Test was insane. I got destroyed. Way harder than UW or the NBMEs. I went in there feeling pretty good since I was doing well on the last few NBMEs, and I had heard 11 and 12 were a good representation. Man, I was wrong: the real deal made NBME 12 look like a joke. I would mark 6-7 questions per block on the NBMEs.
On the real deal: For 5 out of the 7 blocks, I marked 18-22 questions, basically half the block :/ Block 1 was the worst for me. I ended up marking questions 1-10 consecutively. Very very demoralizing. I was surprised by the lack of giveaways. There were maybe 2 questions/block that were considered "easy." No giveaways, no high yield topics. Question stems were twice as long. The answer choices were very very close. I think this was what stood out the most. With the NBMEs, very few questions had close answer choices. There were so many Qs where I had to narrow down the answer from 3 choices.. never had this happened before.
Content wise: good stuff first: barely any anatomy, easy embryo,easy pharm
Bad: Surprisingly, the hardest was Microbio on my test. The most random bugs: the little random details you wouldn't expect anyone to ask... bugs I'd never encountered on any other practice question. Lots of biochem: some was fine, some were tricky.There wasn't that much Immuno, but damn it was ridiculous. Random cytokines/Interleukins that were not in FA. The biggest problem I had with the test was that you couldn't get that far with "reasoning" ... you either knew it or you didn't. I got unlucky in some areas. For ex, endocrinology is probably my strongest subject. So I didn't spend much time studying random details that simply never really appeared on practice questions. I ended up having 5-6 questions on IGF-1, something I glanced at maybe once in my studying.
Overall hardest test I've ever taken. If I absolutely had to pick one source that was similar, I guess it'd have to be UWorld. Practice NBMEs were not very helpful for preparation for the test. The test was all details... the more you know, the longer you studied, the better you'd do I guess. You've gotta know everything. Score prediction: 20 points lower than practice tests.
omg this is depressing