I saw that there was a similar thread for 2011 that had plenty of useful info so I figured its best to start one for 2012.
hey GTV I bet you did much better than expected, I've seen your kind of posts around, its usually people who did a good job at studying that feel like you do - just wait and get your mind off of it until your results come back.
They changed the score a few months ago to make it more spread out rather than 99 being related to anything over 230. Now a 99 is like impossible
a) that was my original question on this thread if you read above, since usually anything over 230 is a 99, so they must have changed the scoring and I still don't really get it, b) if you're assuming i made up the score, why would i choose a 90? I came on the thread to ask about it, and have tried to provide meaningful advice to those who asked other questions about the step 1. Please respect that.
Apparently, they are phasing out the 2 point score to be nonexistent in the near future. Since June 2011 the 2 point score is not reported to residency programs. Hence, it does not matter anyway.
Took mine on Friday and feel as if I was academically raped. I went through FA 4+ times, did all of kaplan qbank (78%), all of uworld qbank (80%), both uworld practice tests (265+ on both), and all the nbme practice tests (245 on 3, 254 on 5, 247 on 6, 250 on 7, 252 on 11, and 261 on 12). The real deal blew them all out of the water in terms of difficulty. On uworld qbank questions for example they might be 2 or 3 steps that require you to think critically but if you know your stuff you can usually figure them out. On my real test though I was bombarded with1-step questions but over topics I was totally unfamiliar with and were NOT covere at all in FA. I felt like every other question was some obscure minutae of anatomy. I also got plenty ridiculous molecular bio questions that totally threw me through a complete loop. The only saving grace was the microbio, of which there was a lot of. Since the exam I have been looking up questions that I remembered causing me anguish and the incorrect counter is already up to 15. And that's just the ones I remembered and could prove for a fact I got wrong. Going into the exam I was expecting mid 250s, but realistically I might be down into the 220s after that massacre. Hello family med! If you take anything from this rant it is this: at least in my experience FA is NOT adequate. At all. Also, all practice exams are deceptively easy. Beware.
Took mine on Friday and feel as if I was academically raped. I went through FA 4+ times, did all of kaplan qbank (78%), all of uworld qbank (80%), both uworld practice tests (265+ on both), and all the nbme practice tests (245 on 3, 254 on 5, 247 on 6, 250 on 7, 252 on 11, and 261 on 12). The real deal blew them all out of the water in terms of difficulty. On uworld qbank questions for example they might be 2 or 3 steps that require you to think critically but if you know your stuff you can usually figure them out. On my real test though I was bombarded with1-step questions but over topics I was totally unfamiliar with and were NOT covere at all in FA. I felt like every other question was some obscure minutae of anatomy. I also got plenty ridiculous molecular bio questions that totally threw me through a complete loop. The only saving grace was the microbio, of which there was a lot of. Since the exam I have been looking up questions that I remembered causing me anguish and the incorrect counter is already up to 15. And that's just the ones I remembered and could prove for a fact I got wrong. Going into the exam I was expecting mid 250s, but realistically I might be down into the 220s after that massacre. Hello family med! If you take anything from this rant it is this: at least in my experience FA is NOT adequate. At all. Also, all practice exams are deceptively easy. Beware.
Took mine on Friday and feel as if I was academically raped. I went through FA 4+ times, did all of kaplan qbank (78%), all of uworld qbank (80%), both uworld practice tests (265+ on both), and all the nbme practice tests (245 on 3, 254 on 5, 247 on 6, 250 on 7, 252 on 11, and 261 on 12). The real deal blew them all out of the water in terms of difficulty. On uworld qbank questions for example they might be 2 or 3 steps that require you to think critically but if you know your stuff you can usually figure them out. On my real test though I was bombarded with1-step questions but over topics I was totally unfamiliar with and were NOT covere at all in FA. I felt like every other question was some obscure minutae of anatomy. I also got plenty ridiculous molecular bio questions that totally threw me through a complete loop. The only saving grace was the microbio, of which there was a lot of. Since the exam I have been looking up questions that I remembered causing me anguish and the incorrect counter is already up to 15. And that's just the ones I remembered and could prove for a fact I got wrong. Going into the exam I was expecting mid 250s, but realistically I might be down into the 220s after that massacre. Hello family med! If you take anything from this rant it is this: at least in my experience FA is NOT adequate. At all. Also, all practice exams are deceptively easy. Beware.
Not sure if it will make you feel better, but I felt exactly like this last summer right after taking the exam. My practice scores were a bit lower than yours. I ended up scoring in the mid 250's so don't lose hope.
hey buddy , could you help me out , i am bit nervous but what should be done ?? what should i read ??? FA ?? UW ?? kalplan ???
please do reply
So basically a lot of the weird anatomy questions were covered back in my anatomy class (along with 10,000 other things I dismissed as irrelevant for step 1). Besides that the majority of crazy questions I had were not found in FA, kaplan, or goljan. I found answers by just doing internet and pub med searches until I was satisfied that I had found the correct answer. Those questions I truly reacted to by thinking "how in the world could I have possibly anticipated this???" As I mentioned before, some of these questions weren't hard because they required higher levels of critical thinking and data synthesis skills, they were hard because they straight up required knowledge about certain topics that I was plain unfamiliar with. What's more, I have no idea how I would have changed my study skills because it seems that the topics of some of these questions entirely elude all the big usmle study guides and qbanks. If I had another year to study it may have helped to study ALL of my class notes again, but that's just ridiculous....
nbme 5 205 (6 weeks before poor performance in behavioral)
worked hard in BS
nbme 7 235 (4 weeks to exam)
nbme 11 231(2 weeks to exam)
final score 215 (shocked) took exam on 15th February
the nbme were not predictive ,i worked really hard .i am an IMG .i did uworld 2 times ,kaplan 2 times did pathoma.
but my exam was way tougher than any nbme, lot n lot of weird genetics Qs.
pls tell guys can i get IM residency .it is an honor and a dream to come to US and become a doctor .please anyone
Are you a US citizen or will you require a J1 visa when you start residency?
What is going on? Are the multiple negative reports one after the other just a coincidence or is the USMLE getting harder ?!
I am not a US citizen .i will apply for Visa.i have scheduled my step 2 CS exam on 2nd july.
Thanks
Yeah, SDN is pretty representative of the whole population. Two reports on here has a p value of 0.001!
What is going on? Are the multiple negative reports one after the other just a coincidence or is the USMLE getting harder ?!
i am an IMG i don't know how is 215 .is it very bad?
can i still get IM residency .i m in pain .please help .thank you all
i am an IMG i don't know how is 215 .is it very bad?
can i still get IM residency .i m in pain .please help .thank you all
here's my step 1 story. hope it gives you some hope ~~~
background: school makes us do clinical rotations before we take step 1. goal was around 230ish since I want to go into internal medicine, eventually into allergy. gave myself 8 weeks to study. usually a terrible at tests. did below average in almost all of my med school tests and shelf exams.
study method: DIT 2010 videos + FA 2010 (2 passes) + Kaplan Qbank + UWorld Qbank
6 weeks before exam: Kaplan Diagnostic #1 55%
4 weeks before exam: UWSA 1 209
3 weeks before exam: NBME 12 208, Free 150 75%
2 weeks before exam: NBME 11 234, UWSA 2 235 (woah! i think by about here i just about finished my 1st pass of FA)
1 week before exam: NBME 6 212, NBME 7 216 (panic mode)
One and only pass for UWorld = 58%, Kaplan = 61%
Spent the last 4 days cramming FA and doing FA question book.
test: terrible. ran out of time in 3/7 sections. came out crying. had nightmares almost daily for the past 3 weeks. saw really crazy stuff I've never seen before. tons of anatomy and lots and lots of derm. pretty certain i failed. spent hours crying in front of my friends, my parents, the school dean.
final score: 238/85
here's my step 1 story. hope it gives you some hope ~~~
Spent the last 4 days cramming FA and doing FA question book.
test: terrible. ran out of time in 3/7 sections. came out crying. had nightmares almost daily for the past 3 weeks. saw really crazy stuff I've never seen before. tons of anatomy and lots and lots of derm. pretty certain i failed. spent hours crying in front of my friends, my parents, the school dean.
final score: 238/85
Hi naseeha, thank you for posting your experience. You sure made a nice improvement on the big day. Hope we can do the same . Congratulations, mate.
congratulations on a great score...did you just read thru First Aid again before the exam? how helpful was it?
I got my result yesterday and it is 236/84, I took the exam on February 23rd. I am very happy with this score. Here are my stats:
NBME 5 on 29/12/11: 207
NBME 6 on 16/01/12: 219
NBME 7 on 30/01/12: 221
Practice 150 at prometric site on 09/02/12: 83%
NBME 11 and 12 on 15/02/12: 228 and 224 respectively
Kaplan Qbank: 65% total and I completed the whole qbank. I did it timed, tutor, subject wise.
UW: 65% total and I completed 80% of it. I did the majority of it timed, tutor, random.
My exam was heavy with path, physio, pharm and micro. I had about 5-6 biochem questions, about 10 anatomy questions, 5-6 stats questions, and a couple embryo questions. Everybodys exam is different but I shared this for those wondering.
I started off with Kaplan lecture notes, videos and the qbank. After I completed all of that I took my first nbme and scored 207, clearly I didnt remember everything. After nbme 5 I did DIT and started UW and did nbme 6. That increase gave me hope and let me know I was on the right track. After nbme 6 I went through FA again, along with UW questions and then took nbme 7. I only increased two points but I was satisfied since I heard its the hardest one. After nbme 7 I went through FA again and did 11 and 12 back to back. Im glad I did that since it helped me with my endurance on exam day. After 11 and 12 I went though FA one last time in a week and that I think is what helped me increase my score on exam day.
My exams difficulty I feel was similar to a mixture of all the nbmes. To be honest, I think it was actually a little easier than the nbmes. As I was going through my exam I was surprised at how easy it was and how straight forward it was. I was really worried going in since I read other peoples experience saying how their exam was totally different from UW, Kaplan and even the nbmes and they had a lot of questions they had never seen before. Right now I can only recall 1 question that I had no idea what they were talking about and it involved a complicated graph. I think some people over exaggerate about their post exam experience and it isnt good for anybody. If they really felt like that they would score in the 210 range and not in the 250s.
If you guys have any questions dont hesitate to ask.
Hey, congratulations on your excellent score, and I had one question since we seem to be doing similar things to prepare. I am also using kaplan videos heavily in my step 1 study and I was wondering if you found those useful? Did you end up watching all of the videos or just certain topics? Thanks for any input!
Hey, congratulations on your excellent score, and I had one question since we seem to be doing similar things to prepare. I am also using kaplan videos heavily in my step 1 study and I was wondering if you found those useful? Did you end up watching all of the videos or just certain topics? Thanks for any input!
Kaplan videos were awesome. You can prob skip pathology as the guy kind of sucked and goljan is likely all you need.
Congrats on the awesome score!
When u guys watch the kaplan videos, do u annotate into FA?
I annotated nothing into FA. But, I don't necessarily recommend that approach.
took it today, what a beast.
prep included Doctors in Training (waste of time)
First Aid 3x
Uworld once through, then going over my marked and missed questions. Ended at about 84% overall.
NBME 11: 254
UWSA 1 and 2: >265 for both
Have finished most of my clinical rotations except for ob/gyn.
Today's test:
1. Test is wildly variable from person to person so there is honestly no point in listening to what any one individual says about their particular test.
2. The most important thing, more important than memorizing the minutiae of first aid, is actually UNDERSTANDING the concepts that you are learning and knowing how to apply them. They will always find new and confusing ways to test your knowledge so the best thing you can do is make sure you understand the big concepts on a pretty deep level.
3. The easy questions on the exam are VERY easy - much more so than Uworld. The hard questions on this exam are quite hard. I had two questions on the entire exam where I was unable to narrow it down to 2 reasonable answers. They were honestly concepts I had never seen before in my basic science education, first aid, or Uworld.
4. You do not need any resources besides First Aid and UWorld. The questions that I missed were not for lack of knowledge but were due to an ability to understand how they wanted me to think about the question. They are very good at figuring out whether or not you truly understand a concept on a deep level.
5. I found the test to be pretty comparable to the NBME 11 exam and UWSA 1. UWSA 2 is much easier than this exam was.
6. I found that there is usually one to two sections of the exam that are absolutely harder than the rest, those who took it with me agreed. Be mentally prepared for this and don't let it scare you.
7. I honestly have no idea how I did, could be anywhere from 240s-260s, really depends on how I did on the 50/50 questions. This exam is a difficult, humbling, and oftentimes terrifying experience. The most important thing you can do is take this test with a clear mind and be well rested.
8. Will report back with my score in 3-4 weeks. Starting to feel the burden being lifted off but was definitely in a bit of shock after the exam, it is nearly impossible to leave that test feeling good. Even afterwards, when you are done, it won't feel 100% great but I'm just gonna try to completely block it out of my mind until the score comes around. Good luck to those who are studying!
how much prep time used?
6 weeks but really about 5 and a half of actual work.