I saw that there was a similar thread for 2011 that had plenty of useful info so I figured its best to start one for 2012.
257/88
Took it on March 2nd.
Pretty happy.
I also took it on friday.
There were about 30 anatomy questions, half of which were random and convoluted. I thought most of the stems of all the questions were most similar to world questions, but the answer choices were what made thequestions hard. Also, a ton of molecular and cell bio. prob about 5 per block that were 'wtf' type questions.
Was hoping for 240+ but ill be lucky to have pulled 220 I think.
I used:
World, 86% on random 46s
Usmlerx, split by subjects I was studying
Fa
Brs phys
Goljan rr audio and book
Hy neuro
Got a 223 on the cbse we took at school 6 weeks ago before studying.
Nbme 6, 257
Nbme 7, 245
Nbme 12, 257
Should get my scores on the 21St so ill update then.
But I def think fa alone wouldn't cut it. not really sure how I would have studied different tho.
Lets hope the curve is in my favor!
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257/88
Took it on March 2nd.
Pretty happy.
Congratz on that AWESOME score. Mind sharing the resources and techniques you used?
A good lesson in not doubting yourself for future test takers!
I took it monday, was difficult but fair.. I'll post my nbme's and stuff once I get my score. Does anyone know when I should expect it? I looked on the nbme website and they don't have a date listed for my score report yet...should the score report date appear right away?
Thanks!
The post Gannador quoted basically has the resources I used.
Such a relief to be done with..
An 86% on Uworld questions?? That's ridiculous!
LOL there was no way you were ever going to get a 220.
Congrats, that's a huge improvement for 6 weeks. Would you mind telling us how you distributed your study time during that period?
That was really funny!
Sorry to edit your posts, didn't want that link to remain around.
So my study plan was basically as follows:
I had just shy of six weeks to study and wanted to make two passes.
First pass:
Broke up each subject and system as far as I could (i.e. Cardio anatomy, cardio phys, cardio, pharm, etc.). I would study each of those sections individually mostly in first aid and brs text only using outside refs if I needed clarification. I then would take all the questions over that specific section of the system in USMLErx q-bank and review only missed questions or marked questions that I got right. Each afternoon I would review all the path from that system in goljan text. That was basically what I did the first 2.5 weeks to try and re-build my foundation. It was more time intensive than the second half but I got through about 3,000 (the whole USMLErx bank) in that time. Studied a solid 7-8 hours a day with a day off each week at some point. Took NBME 6 at the end of first pass. If applicable, each morning to get started I would take the pharmacy pre-test questions on the drugs from what I studied the prior day.
Second pass:
My mornings would be either 3 or 4 blocks of random questions on UWorld. I would then review again only the ones I got wrong or marked and happened to get right. If it was a concept I wasn't quite getting I would spend a few more minutes reviewing, but I usually just read the explanation pretty well and moved on. Afternoons were spent reviewing each system/subject again in first aid to make sure I got through it all again as well as listening to all the goljan audio. Took NBME 11 about a week into this and 12 about another week later. Again, a full or half day off each week.
General things I felt helped:
-Dropped whatever I was doing at 11am each day to workout and eat - super key in keeping me sane I think.
-Got rid of call of duty for the time I was studying, since it would have ruined me and taken all of my time
-Set an absolute cut off time of like 5/6pm to make dinner (this was more so the first pass, second pass I sometimes decided to review casually after dinner for like an hour)
-Used a huge whiteboard to keep a running list of equations and mnemonics that I had a hard time remembering so I could glance at it every day
And I for sure think its quality over quantity of time studying. There were only a handful of days I actually studied more than 7 or 8 hours of actual study time. If I was being unproductive towards the end of the day - I called it quits or took a break and watched TV then got back at it. I tried to only be at my desk or with books when I was studying. Don't get intimidated by people who say they are/were studied 10-14 hours a day because no one can get quality time in like that consistently - just make the time you are studying count.
I think that is basically it. Let me know if you have more questions.
I guess the last thing is I would say not too stress too much too early on about missing practice questions since the utility of the q-banks in my opinion is to learn and get used to taking questions - the NBMEs are for gauging your ability.
Cheers
elektroshok, How long did your first pass/2nd pass take?
UW average: 80ish percent first pass, high 90s second pass. Always did timed random full blocks.
Kaplan: No particular pattern to how I did these. I mostly did them on my phone while at the gym or when I had some down-time.
UWSA1: 259
NBME11: 262
UWSA2: 264
NBME 12: 263
Real thing: 260
All of my scores are in a tight distribution because I always wait until the end of a study period to start taking full-length practice exams. I basically followed the Taus method and studied for a very long time. I think that my school (UVA) made it very easy to study for classes using board review materials because they didn't test weird minutiae, but rather clinical presentations and broad concepts, so I took advantage of that. I also think that going to a system-based fully integrated school helps with step one because it prepares you to be ready to answer a random mixture of pathogenesis, pharm and management questions once you've localized the organ system. I also had a little bit less than two months of dedicated prep time. There isn't much I can add to the collective wisdom on the board. The test was very similar to what the gold-standard prep material and question banks prepare you for.
Exceptions: there were a number of drugs that I had never heard of and some side effects that weren't in first aid, but I just shrugged those off and chose at random. It would have taken way too much time to learn dozens of atypical drugs. On the score distribution sheet I scored very far to the right on pharm, which makes me think that the questions where they point blank ask you the MOA for "drug X" that you've never heard of could just be experimental to see if the schools have started to teach them. There were also many more dentistry questions than I would have expected. I had at least four, and I don't think they were experimental because the questions were well-developed.
Otherwise it was a very fair test and it felt like it went by very quickly. Good luck to everyone and thank you to all the students who took the time to type up their impressions and strategies!
real deal: 251/87
uworld: 74% one pass, random
CBSSA: 252
NBME7: 233
NBME11: 247
Mainly did Uworld + FA during the last 4 weeks.
Overall, I thought the STEP1 was extremely fair, and I thought that it was easier than the NBME's. The answer choices just seemed to be more obvious to me. I guess I just didn't like some of the questions in the NBME's for some reason.
The exam hardly required any memorization, the ones that did were MAJOR.
The day before the exam, I felt like I didn't know/remember anything... I even wanted to postpone the exam... so don't panic if you have this feeling, trust in your studies
I personally felt that I only had 4-5 anatomy questions, 4-5 direct pharm questions, 4-5 micro questions, (and these were MAJOR topics/drugs~metronidzole/bacteria... don't waste your time on the tiny details/symptoms!!! especially not the last several weeks) and the rest seemed to be well distributed... with probably >90% being from FA + uworld alone.
But, I think the key is to do well during your first 2 years.
I felt like I would have scored the same, even with only 2-3 weeks dedicated study time, but who knows.
I wish everyone the best of luck!
The exam is a lot more basic/simple than most people probably anticipate.
are you saying you had 4-5 questions total of each on your exam or just per section??? Congrats and great score!
I'm pretty sure that they meant total. I would agree, I felt like my exam had pretty low anatomy and pharm (maybe 10 total for pharm and <5 for anatomy).Maybe one embryo q....
Huh, good to know. Does "anatomy" include neuroanatomy? And how was the micro?
I took NBME 1 effectively "pre-study" (just started reviewing biochem last week) and made a 190. I have around 9 weeks to my test, 4.5 of which will be dedicated study. Is it realistic to make a jump to 220-230 with that schedule? I know it's probably the SDN bias going on, but everyone on here seems to have started with very good practice scores. :-/
I took NBME 1 effectively "pre-study" (just started reviewing biochem last week) and made a 190. I have around 9 weeks to my test, 4.5 of which will be dedicated study. Is it realistic to make a jump to 220-230 with that schedule? I know it's probably the SDN bias going on, but everyone on here seems to have started with very good practice scores. :-/
That's definitely reasonable.
We took one at my school and I scored somewhere around a 185 without studying at all. I think after 3 weeks of studying I hit 226 on NBME 6.
Is this SDN bias real? It seems like everyone is 250+, kind of depressing. I will feel disappointed with a 240.
Took the beast yesterday. I'll give y'all a detailed write up when I get my score back. A couple of quick thoughts though.
Broader range of difficulty then the NBMEs and UWorld. More nobrain easy questions, a few more WTF questions also. On the whole I felt that first aid and Uworld (I also did kaplan and GT) were adequate, but there will still be plenty of things you're not sure of even if you memorized first aid word for word. The easier questions are pure fact regurgitation, while the trickier questions find new ways to ask questions, or compare topics that force you to make judgement calls based on the information you know. Even if you know the underlying information cold, you'll still be not 100% on the answer. The topics were pretty well dispersed for me, nothing seemed particularly over or under represented. I'd say just knowing the facts and common presentations will get you to that 230-240 range, while going above requires an ability to use your understanding of physio and path to make educated guesses about how disorder X will cause paremeter Y to change and so on. My NBME scores were very solid (250 nbme 11 pre-designated period, 265 nbme12 2 weeks away, 272 nbme 13 5 days before, and 265/265 on UWSA 1/2). On all those tests though, there were lots of educated guesses like I was talking about. How many of those turn out your way is huge, hence the fact that I'm still pretty nervous about how things will turn out (shooting for a very competitive residency, so need the scores).
Be warned that the heart sounds bit is a little tricker then kaplan. They allow you to listen from all four points, making you interpret the sounds rather then saying "loudest at the lower left sternal border". Its actually a pretty cool system, you can see the patients carotids pulse in time w/ the heart sounds (and yes it was bounding on the aortic regurg patient).
Here's my stats- I had 6 weeks to study
CBSE (before studying): 205
NBME 6 (3 weeks out): 221
NBME 11 (2 weeks out):238
UWorld on random: 74%
Real thing: 250
First 2.5 weeks went through all of FA and did UsmleRx questions corresponding to each section. Took NMBE 6.
Second 2.5 weeks did 3-4 blocks of 46 questions random on UW in the am, went through a section in FA in the afternoon/evening. Listened to Goljan + read RR Pathology once the first pass and again during the second pass.
Here's my stats- I had 6 weeks to study
CBSE (before studying): 205
NBME 6 (3 weeks out): 221
NBME 11 (2 weeks out):238
UWorld on random: 74%
Real thing: 250
First 2.5 weeks went through all of FA and did UsmleRx questions corresponding to each section. Took NMBE 6.
Second 2.5 weeks did 3-4 blocks of 46 questions random on UW in the am, went through a section in FA in the afternoon/evening. Listened to Goljan + read RR Pathology once the first pass and again during the second pass.
I took the exam 4 weeks ago, still feel adept at commenting on the content.For the guys who took the test recently - would you mind telling us a bit about the breakdown of questions? Seems like a couple of people have said that the test was very light on anatomy (including neuroanatomy), micro, and pure pharm questions... was that your experience also?
For the guys who took the test recently - would you mind telling us a bit about the breakdown of questions? Seems like a couple of people have said that the test was very light on anatomy (including neuroanatomy), micro, and pure pharm questions... was that your experience also?
I know i am very late to the party but i have accepted it. I have accepted the fact that EVERY score that is being posted or will be posted here will be >235. *SMH*
235? lol. You would be lucky to match into a Family Medicine residency in South Dakota with a 235.
For the guys who took the test recently - would you mind telling us a bit about the breakdown of questions? Seems like a couple of people have said that the test was very light on anatomy (including neuroanatomy), micro, and pure pharm questions... was that your experience also?
235? lol. You would be lucky to match into a Family Medicine residency in South Dakota with a 235.
Oh, SDN. The only place where less than a 250 means you should consider flipping burgers...
I'm pretty sure I don't even know what a good score is anymore because of this site
No joke, I was at a dinner with some classmates and residents and someone mentioned they got a 230-something and was promptly congratulated by everyone for a solid job well done. First I thought they were joking, then I thought everyone was trying to make them feel better. Thanks, SDN.
Hint: a 230 is a good score. Not derm good, but good.
I have a friend who seemed pretty disappointed with a mid-230s score. She wants to go into EM. I think she spent too much time on SDN...