I saw that there was a similar thread for 2011 that had plenty of useful info so I figured its best to start one for 2012.
The bold is not what I've said. FA may have covered ~60% +/- 10% of my exam, but that doesn't mean the remainder was minutiae. There are quite a few questions that require your external knowledge integrated with strong problem-solving skills.
FA does not build your pathology. You need BRS Path, Webpath and many QBank Qs to cover this area. FA's coverage of path is mere cursory.
I say I had a lot of minutiae on my exam. Probably about 20 questions fell into this category. They either required you know some small factoid, or you had to know what you were looking at without the help of the vignette. I'd say two of the hardest questions on my entire exam included images. Other difficult questions had patients with presentations I had never seen before. In fact, one of the most challenging questions on my exam had to do with a vitamin.
I still can't believe that you actually found almost 30% of your test difficult. After all of this studying.
Kaplan QBank is definitely not 95% FA. KQB was the hardest of any resource I had used while prepping for this exam, and it had a ton of low-yield info. It definitely helped with my molecular biology, which interestingly was very high-yield on my exam.
The bold is not what I've said. FA may have covered ~60% +/- 10% of my exam, but that doesn't mean the remainder was minutiae. There are quite a few questions that require your external knowledge integrated with strong problem-solving skills.
The bold is not what I've said. FA may have covered ~60% +/- 10% of my exam, but that doesn't mean the remainder was minutiae. There are quite a few questions that require your external knowledge integrated with strong problem-solving skills.
FA does not build your pathology. You need BRS Path, Webpath and many QBank Qs to cover this area. FA's coverage of path is mere cursory.
I say I had a lot of minutiae on my exam. Probably about 20 questions fell into this category. They either required you know some small factoid, or you had to know what you were looking at without the help of the vignette. I'd say two of the hardest questions on my entire exam included images. Other difficult questions had patients with presentations I had never seen before. In fact, one of the most challenging questions on my exam had to do with a vitamin.
This is incorrect. You don't need all those sources to cover path. ALL you need on top of FA for path is Pathoma. I can't believe you didn't use Pathoma during your 10 months of studying. Dude, seriously?? lol, I'm honestly in shock you never used Pathoma. *bangs head over and over and over* Pathoma was amazing. It honestly is just as important to use as FA and UWorld qbank. Ugggghhh
The bold is not what I've said. FA may have covered ~60% +/- 10% of my exam, but that doesn't mean the remainder was minutiae. There are quite a few questions that require your external knowledge integrated with strong problem-solving skills.
FA does not build your pathology. You need BRS Path, Webpath and many QBank Qs to cover this area. FA's coverage of path is mere cursory.
I say I had a lot of minutiae on my exam. Probably about 20 questions fell into this category. They either required you know some small factoid, or you had to know what you were looking at without the help of the vignette. I'd say two of the hardest questions on my entire exam included images. Other difficult questions had patients with presentations I had never seen before. In fact, one of the most challenging questions on my exam had to do with a vitamin.
Phloston, in retrospect, would you still say UsmleRx over Kaplan Qbank?
For all recent test takers, assuming you have tried both because I don't know how you can know otherwise (unless you do with a reason .. then that's fair), UsmleRx or Kaplan Qbank?
Also - I'm doing GT, not sure if that changes anything but perhaps GT is similar enough to UsmleRx....
I was going g to ask how BRS path compares to patjoma and if one is more dense or better. I'm trying to avoid goljan.
Phloston ), if you had only a few days to spare for Kaplan, which sections would do from the QBank given you have already completed UWorld?
would you say that uworld covers most >85% of the pathology on the exam not seen in FA, since everyone claims it to be hi-yield
@Phloston, would you say that understanding and knowing ALL the info in the UW explanations w a good thorough understanding of FA would be enough for 220?
Phloston, congrats homie on taking the exam. Was Neuroanatomy really that high yield? How many questions would you say were on your exam?
pathoma is by far the best resource. stuff ive learned from that book has even helped on shelf exams.
Good job Phloston. Congrats on all your hard work.
Now that you are done with the test, what do you think is the highest value for time in last two weeks ?
Do you still think FA, UW and NBME or would you include anything else as well ?
I think people would read your posts if you don't use as many smileys.
Pholston's so hot right now.
I think phloston got tired. We know that step exams are lengthy and suucks our brain like anything...let him take some rest. He will guide us once gets refreshed.Congrats for finishing great exam Mr.phloston
Phloston, why do you recommend BRS path? I don't think I've heard of anyone recommending it.
Agreed. Phloston is a good guy and all and gives great advice, but his failure to use Pathoma shows a huge flaw in his study methods. He used 3 different sources instead for path that are way more time consuming and therefore insufficient for Step 1 studying. I'm sure he did well on Step 1, but he had 10 months.
For example, many suggest BRS Physiology. Goljian audio is great too but only if you do it earlier in the year.
Good job Phloston. Congrats on all your hard work.
Now that you are done with the test, what do you think is the highest value for time in last two weeks ?
Do you still think FA, UW and NBME or would you include anything else as well ?
You nailed the exam. What do you suggest for images CT , MRI
Phloston, you say neuroanatomy was heavy on the exam. What is on your opinion the best resource to study neuroanatomy from for someone with not the best background?
Thanks
Hey phloston, sorry to barrage you with questions.
I heard you say micro cards were good and I did go through them once. Do you think they are useful to keep using in the final few months of prep or did you just use FA?
Agreed. Phloston is a good guy and all and gives great advice, but his failure to use Pathoma shows a huge flaw in his study methods. He used 3 different sources instead for path that are way more time consuming and therefore insufficient for Step 1 studying. I'm sure he did well on Step 1, but he had 10 months.
I just think on every post Pholston writes about Step 1 studying now, he should also include a disclaimer that he had 10 months to study. The average med student has 4-6 weeks, which means efficiency and time management are of the utmost importance. Trying to follow his study plan and use the resources he used would be more completely foolish for most students. Only IMGs have 10 months to study for that test so of course they can go through all the resources available. The typical student needs to find a few main resources and stick with them. Most ppl generally agree those sources are FA, Pathoma, UWorld Qbank, and maybe another supplement for an area you're weak in. For example, many suggest BRS Physiology. Goljian audio is great too but only if you do it earlier in the year.
Congrats to phloston finishing, but jeez people, just keep in mind he's taken just as many step exams as anyone else who's sat step 1. take everyone's advice with a grain of salt.
Untrue. Pathoma just became popular over the last year or two. You can't expect everyone to start choosing it over the other tried-and-true methods. I didn't use it either and did perfectly fine on the exam. It's a great resource, but you don't HAVE to use it. Honestly I still prefer the goljan BOOK over Pathoma, but again it's a personal preference
How did you feel about the pharm on the exam-I am 2 weeks out, have finished uworld/FA and some other resources, but not sure how to allocate my time in terms of pharmacology-was it super high yield or focus on other things?
Pholston's so hot right now.
Pharm was probably the lowest-yield topic on my exam. I literally may have had only 5-8 questions that were drug-related. However three notably stand out as being of hard-level difficulty.
All of that HY stuff at the end of the micro chapter never showed up. I had only one question that involved antibiotics, and it also happened to be one of the most obscure questions I have ever seen. This was one of the five or so questions I had encountered that was in the <20% answering correctly category. My pharm was very strong going in, and I pretty much had no idea what this question was even asking. Firstly, it required making a diagnosis that was very low-yield (i.e. nothing in FA or even the QBanks), and then on top of that, I couldn't believe that they were seriously testing how to treat it. Plainly said, if I had had another year to study, I still never would have covered this treatment. I had only briefly passed upon the condition twice or three times during the past three years, and this was through external reading. There were five drugs listed, and based on the vignette, I was fairly certain four of them just couldn't have been right. The fifth drug I had never heard of before, and this is even after having gone through the low-yield drugs in Brenner and Lange pharm cards. I went with this latter drug. And btw, I'm avoiding looking it up or researching anything from the exam I'm still not entirely sure about. The last thing I want is to prove myself wrong and have to live with that for the next several weeks. But the drug sits in my head, and I just wonder whether it was right.
I also had one (as I had mentioned in an earlier post) that was on a low-yield side-effect of a drug, where they were trying to trick you into selecting something else. So know your side-effects.
The third hard one had to do with drug toxicity. It started off with a straightforward vignette, but then gave a sentence of additional information that just seemed to contradict what I would have expected. Basically I felt four of the drugs listed were blatantly wrong, but the fifth drug, although its toxicity side-effects closely mirrored the first several sentences of the vignette, the last line was just very odd, so I left that question not 100% whether I was right.
But yeah, drugs were minimal on my exam. However, pharmacokinetics presented in about 6 or 7 questions. So in combination with the 5-8 I had in relation to actual drugs, there was a total of only about 15 pharm question on my Step1. The pharmacokinetics questions were all of easy-level difficulty.
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In terms of your prep and/or last two weeks, just know the drugs in FA. That's it. A low-yield drug could always present itself, but there's nothing you can really do about that.
what is FA ?
I think this post and my experience show how variable the Step 1 exam is. I had 4-5 straight up "what drug to use" question per section on my test. With maybe 1 pharm kinetics question. Just want to throw that in there so that people don't get lead down the wrong road.
Phloston, thought you said the important thing was that you learned stuff and not the numerical score. So you should look it up and annotate on to your FA.
Hey Phloston, my Step 1 experience was different from yours, do you think I should sue Prometric or the NBME for conning me?
Got your PM, hopefully these lawyers are good for the money they're asking.
Have you considered a hunger-strike instead?
I don't want to come off the wrong way by saying this, but I was fortunate that my UWorld percentile was 97 for pathology after the first pass. I only say that because people should know that BRS Path, Webpath and USMLE Rx/Kaplan QBank Qs made that happen. I went through BRS Path and Webpath during MS2, and I think any MS2 student should get through those resources as a must.
Rocketbooster, I'm also not sure if you're aware that in each one of your last four or five posts, you have mentioned my prep-time. I think that's interesting because if there's anyone on this forum who should have learned by now how the IMG vs AMG timelines differ, it would be you.
The AMG MS1/2 curriculum is heavily basic sciences-oriented and thereby geared toward this exam. The Australian curriculum doesn't focus on a fraction of the material covered in FA (let alone the fact that FA is only a fraction of what needs to be known for this exam). Therefore, I believe "the 10 months of study" that you're claiming is excessive is in actuality no more than the equivalent of an AMG prepping during his or her MS2.
Not necessarily true. I can only speak for my own school, but our curriculum is not very well geared to the boards. There's tons of extra crap, minutiae, that had no relevancy to boards. Everyone in my school complaints about it. It's probably a big reason our school's average is usually below the average national Step 1 score lol. I definitely did not start studying 10 months in advance during my M2 year. I started studying early in the spring before my test, but because I actually had school I only had time to do Goljan audio and 100 pages of FA over 4 months haha.
I'm not saying your path materials were not good. I'm just saying using that many resources is too inefficient for AMGs, who only have 4-6 weeks of dedicated study time. My IMG friends have substantially longer, so in their case I'm sure your methods are great. Since so many ppl are now reading your advice as godsend, I suggested that you include your 10-month study time so they have a better idea what your studying entailed. For the typical AMG, 3 path sources is ridiculous. They should stick with Pathoma, or Goljan's path book if they want to go crazy with it.