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I've always wanted to start one of these...So here we go!
My stats:
M2
Test time: June 2018
Goal score: 270
My stats:
M2
Test time: June 2018
Goal score: 270
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Really? I’ve heard Pathoma >> B&B though. I would only reference B&B if I reaaaally don’t understand something. Also, yes I’m definitely going to include my lecture material but those will be after I’ve gone through Pathoma/FA to figure out what’s high vs. low yield.
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Slightly below average US MD student about to start second year. Curious on any advice to my plan.
Curriculum type: M1 normal, M2 abnormal
Test date: Early May 2019
Dedicated period: 5 weeks
Goal: 250+
Will have done most/all Zanki cards related to my first year by the time school begins (~10k with ~4k matured). Will be continuing Zanki throughout the year and aiming to finish all new cards a week before dedicated. I'll be supplementing classes with UWorld, FA, Pathoma, Sketchy, and B&B (if absolutely necessary). I'll aim to finish a first pass of UWorld by dedicated so I can do a second pass during it.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
What's the opinion on NBME 13?
Took 16 and 19 also. This felt easier.
is this year’s average still 229? Reading this thread I feel like national average is at least 245 and I can only do rural FM with my 230
It's a curved exam...they're not gonna have the average be in the 240s
do you have any evidence to buttress your assumption that this exam is curved? the average has been slowly rising. it didnt this year apparently and it certainly wont jump to 240 overnight but as first aid is gaining in girth so is the exam average.
I'd assume that all exams of this nature are curved like the MCAT..SAT....it is not a raw score you're getting back. An 85% may mean a 240 one year and may mean a 235 another year.do you have any evidence to buttress your assumption that this exam is curved? the average has been slowly rising. it didnt this year apparently and it certainly wont jump to 240 overnight but as first aid is gaining in girth so is the exam average.
For those that took their Step1 in Mid July, did anyone's permit disappear yet??
I took mine on July 18th, not sure if my score's coming out this week or next week, but I've heard that the "Print Permit" link disappears a couple days before the score is released. If that link is gone, it means you passed. If it's still there...it means you supposedly failed.Took July 20.
not sure what permit disappear means tho
Took the test on June 25th.
I did three qbanks because I like questions.
USMLERx: 74%
Kaplan: 77%
UW: 84%
Didn't do a second pass through UW.
NBME 13: 248
NBME 15: 248
NBME 16: 257
NBME 17: 259
NBME 18: 268
NBME 19: 261
UWSA1: 275
UWSA2: 273
Actual: 260
Congrats! Mind giving a timeline for the qbanks, practice tests, and your preparation?
we know nothing about what score we are getting back so far. in fact we just recently found out what the %iles are and i believe the general consensus on the boards here was that the distribution was bell-shaped prior to that.... so you may very well be right. but you may very well be wrong.I'd assume that all exams of this nature are curved like the MCAT..SAT....it is not a raw score you're getting back. An 85% may mean a 240 one year and may mean a 235 another year.
all those getting results back still have a 229 on their results. why would that change now unless we have a major wave of IMGs doing well above their traditional average which i believe is below the US med student average.I guess we won't figure out until NBME releases this year's data. But I assume it should still be around 230
I started ~6-7mo out during Christmas break by trying to nail biochemistry in first aid. I majored in biochem during undergrad (graduated more than 6 years ago), and I'm convinced that no medical school can actually teach biochemistry well. (Plus biochem tends to be taught early in first year anyway, so people forget it by the time Step1 rolls around) That being said, I felt relearning all the biochemistry actually laid a nice foundation for a lot of the material later on (like learning all the integrated pathways of the folate/B12 cycle and where drugs play a role etc.)
Next came the QBanks. I did NOT use qbanks by section. I ONLY randomized the questions. Review answers to right and wrongs ALWAYS.
I started USMLERx after Christmas break with randomized tests from the material I'd learned from my previous semester and gradually tried to integrate topics as I went along. I used FA to try and learn some topics as I went because I didn't want to rely solely on the QBanks for information. Lectures also provided a foundation for material. I completed USMLERx by the end of my spring break in March.
During the second half of my second semester, I focused primarily on doing the Kaplan QBank. By the time of my lecture exams in May, I felt like I didn't need to study much for my exams because I had learned a lot of information just by doing the QBanks. That being said, I kept doing Kaplan questions but devoted some more time to studying for my lecture exams. By the time I finished my lecture exams, I had finished Kaplan. I hear from people "don't do Kaplan because it's too detailed." My response to that is this: If it's too detailed, then clearly you must have a deeper level of understanding or better knowledge of a subject to do well and learn from it.
Post Kaplan/Post Lecture exams: I took the weekend off and then spent our 6 week dedicated study period doing 80 UWorld questions per day. I saved UW for last because I do believe that UW is the most precious resource that's available. By this time, I felt like UWorld was merely enhancing my knowledge and filling in the gaps to concepts I'd not fully understood, but I wasn't trying to learn new things I'd never seen before (ie not trying to master all of biochem w/in 6 weeks, which a lot of people tend to do and then blame the school for not teaching them well enough)
All NBMEs and UWSAs were done over the course of the six weeks whenever I felt like testing my knowledge. I did the last three NBMEs back to back for three days close to the end of the study period.
By the time I had finished UW, I was so sick of doing questions.
By the time the actual test rolled around, I was numb to the idea of doing another 280 questions that my test anxiety was far below what I thought it was going to be.
As for other resources:
1. Pathoma was essential. Know it back to front as well as you can. I read and watched videos as needed. I used Goljan Rapid Review Pathology as a supplement because sometimes it explained things better than Pathoma. Pathoma is a highly condensed book of high yield material. Path was actually the best section per my score report.
2. I listened to Goljan Audio every morning. He's funny and he has a nice way of helping you remember things.
3. Sketchy Micro because I'm not going to sit around and memorize all these random tidbits about random microbes without any context. I was actually excited to get micro questions on the test.
TLDR: My tips:
1. Master biochemistry early and review it little by little until the actual test so you don't completely forget it.
2. Tackle weaknesses early
3. Don't memorize anything worth understanding
4. Do questions on random
5. Study with someone to keep you on track (I did the exact same study plan with my girlfriend, and we both scored 260! We were dumbfounded)
6. Take the year seriously.
7. Find balance
8. Remember: it's one exam - work your a-- off and feel proud after you get your score. Scoring higher can only help you in the long run.
Typos galore and bad grammar just happened.
Pretty devastated. Need some advice guys.,,,
Test date: July 12th
Real deal: 232
M3 here. Australian IMG hoping to match gas and IM. Now I'm not sure if I should still try to match anaesthesia or go for community IM or FM. Thoughts please?
Dedicated: 7 weeks
Finished DITx1
First Aid x2
Kaplan videos x0.5 during second year
USMLE Rx x1 during second year
Pathoma 1.5
UWorld x0.9 (300 questions left) average 72%
UWSA1 198 - 7 wks prior
NBME 18 222 - 2 wks prior
UWSA 2 251- 4 days prior
Free 120 (back to back with UWSA 2)- 87%
Pretty devastated. Need some advice guys.,,,
Test date: July 12th
Real deal: 232
M3 here. Australian IMG hoping to match gas and IM. Now I'm not sure if I should still try to match anaesthesia or go for community IM or FM. Thoughts please?
Dedicated: 7 weeks
Finished DITx1
First Aid x2
Kaplan videos x0.5 during second year
USMLE Rx x1 during second year
Pathoma 1.5
UWorld x0.9 (300 questions left) average 72%
UWSA1 198 - 7 wks prior
NBME 18 222 - 2 wks prior
UWSA 2 251- 4 days prior
Free 120 (back to back with UWSA 2)- 87%
What did you expect with a 222 NBME 18 2 weeks out.. actually you should be happy with the 10 point increase in 2 weeks.. many people fall around the NBME 18 score..some below and few more..
IM is totally do-able.. get a few first authored pubs if you can.. that will ease the process..else 232 is more than the IMG mean of IM matched applicants..
you did better than two and worse than 1 of your practice tests. did you expect a miracle?What did you expect with a 222 NBME 18 2 weeks out.. actually you should be happy with the 10 point increase in 2 weeks.. many people fall around the NBME 18 score..some below and few more..
IM is totally do-able.. get a few first authored pubs if you can.. that will ease the process..else 232 is more than the IMG mean of IM matched applicants..
shoot took mine july 17th and its still there.....good luck to you though!FYI I took my Step1 on July 18 and my Permit just disappeared today
Thank you for the great write-up. I have been using RX and Kaplan alongside classes, and saving UW for dedicated. I’ve been reviewing all the correct and incorrect answer choices to every question and it’s been taking me about an hour to an hour and a half for every 10 questions.
What was the pace like for you doing questions?
Thank you for that!! Which qbank, Kaplan or Rx, do you think was more useful/representative of the exam after having done all three?
FYI I took my Step1 on July 18 and my Permit just disappeared today
did your permit link disappear or do you mean when you clicked on you permit link did it say something like error permit not available?
What you're describing is what I had yesterday. But today, the permit link is no longer there.
People have been saying for years that if your permit link disappears a couple of days before your score release date, it means you have passed. If it's still there, you failed. I'm not sure how accurate that is now, but it seems like that is the consensus.what does it mean if the permit link disappears? mine is still there but i just took the exam earlier this August.
I’m devastated. I scored thirty points below my practice test average. A 207. I’m a DO and I’m worried al my options are gone but family med
NBME 13: 215
NBME 18: 223
NBME 19: 225
UWSA 2: 234
Took Step 1 today and I honestly feel like I'm going to get 200s. At this point, I just want to pass
People have been saying for years that if your permit link disappears a couple of days before your score release date, it means you have passed. If it's still there, you failed. I'm not sure how accurate that is now, but it seems like that is the consensus.
I signed up via NBMEdo you mind me asking if you signed up via nbme or ecfmg, i'm ecfmg so i'm hoping the delay is due to that and there is still hope/maybe i'll sleep tonight
Yep that's the one. It's supposed to disappear completely as a button option.Sorry if this is a stupid question, but are you guys referring to the "print permit" link?
People have been saying for years that if your permit link disappears a couple of days before your score release date, it means you have passed. If it's still there, you failed. I'm not sure how accurate that is now, but it seems like that is the consensus.
Just took Step 1
UWSA 1 228 2 weeks prior
UWSA 2 224 1 week prior
I keep thinking about the questions I got wrong and its driving me up the wall.
I made some silly mistakes and I keep thinking that its going to tank my score and I'm literally on edge.
I know I got a lot of the hard questions correct, but I feel so annoyed that I missed some easy questions.
I literally have no idea how I did. I feel like it could go either way. I could have bombed it or aced it. Its such a weird feeling.
Literally I was on autopilot most of the exam.
I'm not sure how they even grade it, I know I missed some questions, but I really have no idea how many.
The wait is agonizing!! Literally every day that goes by I feel like I might have failed!
Anyone else feel this way? and any AUGUST test takers here?
I don’t know if it was earlier on in this thread or on Reddit but there were at least 2 people that failed who had their permits disappear the Monday that they got their stores.
Darn I still have the link but it leads to the following:
Application error: Permit is not available. The candidate may have sat for the exam or the registration is no longer active.
I took mine Saturday the 21st and I am not sure if we should be expecting scores this week or not. My permit is still there.
Darn I still have the link but it leads to the following:
Application error: Permit is not available. The candidate may have sat for the exam or the registration is no longer active.
Hopefully it really means good news. My test date was July 23. I still have the link.permit just disappeared as an IMG on ECFMG test date July 17th
i'm getting the same message and i took my test 3 days ago
how do you deal with the wait?