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Just got my score back after an exhausting 4 weeks of waiting.

For some background: I took step 1 and failed with a 185, studied again and retook it and got a 216.

For Step 2 I did UWorld primarily as well as a bit of OME.

I did all the practice exams, however to be honest I did take the NBME exams half heartedly because everyone told me they were very poor at predicting.

NBME 6: 196
NBME 8: 198
NBME 7: 203
Free 120: 81% (untimed)
UWSA1: 222 (I think I was tired that day)
UWSA2: 226 (surprised it was higher??)

Real deal: 237!!!!

Not the most amazing score in the world, but hopefully good enough improvement from Step 1.

Good luck everyone!


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Took my exam 28 dec 2018. Got scores today: 261.

Left the exam feeling like I failed. Everything was a blur. Trust your practice scores.

Uworld: 1st pass 69%, 2nd pass 94%
Amboss: 69%
Kaplan: 76%
Kaplan simulated: 78%, 86%
CMS forms: 80-90% for all except psych; psych was difficult imo
NBME 6: 247 (3 months out), 7: 262, 8: 27x (low 270s) 7 and 8 done 3-4 days out
UWSA1: 290 (super inflated as I did zanki which covers UWSA)
UWSA2: 27x (super inflated as I did zanki)

I’m an MD-PhD IMG student who did the exam before completing any core rotations. I have only done 3 months of (med and surg) rotations prior to taking the step. Studied 1y part-time (during my last PhD year) and used it to ease the transition back into medicine after PhD. Have not done any psych, obs/gyn, or paeds. Did not find any one in a similar position as I was so just thought I would share my experience: it is possible to do okay even without completing core rotations although I would advice against it. Exam was very difficult and I left the exam thinking that the only thing that I could have done to improve my scores was more time on the wards.

Resources:
- SU2M and MTB (only used it as I had not been doing medicine for 4 years due to PhD so needed something to help relearn a lot of things I had forgotten)
- onlinemeded
- zanki and WiWA (very good resources; highly recommend; did both; WiWA is more comprehensive)

Step 1: 261 (2014; done during first year of PhD)
 

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Took my exam 28 dec 2018. Got scores today: 261.

Left the exam feeling like I failed. Everything was a blur. Trust your practice scores.

Uworld: 1st pass 69%, 2nd pass 94%
Amboss: 69%
Kaplan: 76%
Kaplan simulated: 78%, 86%
CMS forms: 80-90% for all except psych; psych was difficult imo
NBME 6: 247 (3 months out), 7: 262, 8: 27x (low 270s) 7 and 8 done 3-4 days out
UWSA1: 290 (super inflated as I did zanki which covers UWSA)
UWSA2: 27x (super inflated as I did zanki)

I’m an MD-PhD IMG student who did the exam before completing any core rotations. I have only done 3 months of (med and surg) rotations prior to taking the step. Studied 1y part-time (during my last PhD year) and used it to ease the transition back into medicine after PhD. Have not done any psych, obs/gyn, or paeds. Did not find any one in a similar position as I was so just thought I would share my experience: it is possible to do okay even without completing core rotations although I would advice against it. Exam was very difficult and I left the exam thinking that the only thing that I could have done to improve my scores was more time on the wards.

Resources:
- SU2M and MTB (only used it as I had not been doing medicine for 4 years due to PhD so needed something to help relearn a lot of things I had forgotten)
- onlinemeded
- zanki and WiWA (very good resources; highly recommend; did both; WiWA is more comprehensive)

Step 1: 261 (2014; done during first year of PhD)
what's the reason you didn't take it after your clerkships? this sounds like a lot of work at the tail end of your phd.

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what's the reason you didn't take it after your clerkships? this sounds like a lot of work at the tail end of your phd.

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Good question. Mainly because I wanted to use it to get “back in shape” for medicine as I felt that I had forgotten most of what I had learnt during my pre-clinical years. Also I wasn’t too happy with how my PhD went so I wanted something else to show for it (I am in the process of getting my main work published but it’s nothing game-changing).

It was mad trying to juggle thesis + studying but I spaced out the studying over 1 year and I was consistently writing up my publication as I did experiments so all I had to do for the thesis was transfer what I had written for the publications over. My school allows us to submit a thesis by publications so that helped.

Looking back, I would advice people who want to optimize their scores to do it after core rotations. But at the same time I am glad that I have step 2 out of the way so my focus this year will be on applying for electives and getting my clinical skills up to snuff + some time on the side to do a little bit of research as well.
 
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Good question. Mainly because I wanted to use it to get “back in shape” for medicine as I felt that I had forgotten most of what I had learnt during my pre-clinical years. Also I wasn’t too happy with how my PhD went so I wanted something else to show for it (I am in the process of getting my main work published but it’s nothing game-changing).

It was mad trying to juggle thesis + studying but I spaced out the studying over 1 year and I was consistently writing up my publication as I did experiments so all I had to do for the thesis was transfer what I had written for the publications over. My school allows us to submit a thesis by publications so that helped.

Looking back, I would advice people who want to optimize their scores to do it after core rotations. But at the same time I am glad that I have step 2 out of the way so my focus this year will be on applying for electives and getting my clinical skills up to snuff + some time on the side to do a little bit of research as well.
My two cents: take step 3 ASAP... it is extremely similar to step 2CK and you clearly know the material inside and out! Congratulations on such a great score!
 
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Got score back from 12/23.

Step 1: 270

Took a year off between 3rd and 4th year, currently half way through ms4 yr. Went through UWorld once, 84%. Didn't take any of the practice NBMEs, and totally forgot about the free 120 lol.
UWSA 1: 272 (2 days out)
UWSA 2: 265 (1 day out)

Step 2 CK: 268

The real thing definitely felt very very difficult, was running low on time and marking a bunch of questions
 
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My two cents: take step 3 ASAP... it is extremely similar to step 2CK and you clearly know the material inside and out! Congratulations on such a great score!
Thanks for the advice! I will definitely aim to do step 3 by the end of the year. :)
 

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Got score back from 12/23.

Step 1: 270

Took a year off between 3rd and 4th year, currently half way through ms4 yr. Went through UWorld once, 84%. Didn't take any of the practice NBMEs, and totally forgot about the free 120 lol.
UWSA 1: 272 (2 days out)
UWSA 2: 265 (1 day out)

Step 2 CK: 268

The real thing definitely felt very very difficult, was running low on time and marking a bunch of questions
Congrats on the great score!!! Echo the marking a lot of questions. I think I marked about 50% of the questions on every block.
 

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Got my score today and it was 237. Scores 242 on both UWorld self assessment exams (Scored 236 on Step 1)

The exam was very difficult to prepare for in my honest opinion - I would have given myself 2-3 more months and studied more UpToDate instead of reading through Master The Boards (it was useless, way too simplistic for the exam). UWorld was alright. USMLE-rx also trash. I treated myself at an exclusive Japanese restaurant (and oh boy it was good) the day before my exam and ended up with a horrible food poisoning during my 9 hour USMLE 2CK exam ... Eat exotic foods AFTER the exam :D

Goodluck you guys
 
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Got my score today and it was 237. Scores 242 on both UWorld self assessment exams (Scored 236 on Step 1)

The exam was very difficult to prepare for in my honest opinion - I would have given myself 2-3 more months and studied more UpToDate instead of reading through Master The Boards (it was useless, way too simplistic for the exam). UWorld was alright. USMLE-rx also trash. I treated myself at an exclusive Japanese restaurant (and oh boy it was good) the day before my exam and ended up with a horrible food poisoning during my 9 hour USMLE 2CK exam ... Eat exotic foods AFTER the exam :D

Goodluck you guys
your suppose to treat yourself AFTER the exam not before LOL :) anyways congrats on the score best of luck
 

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Good question. Mainly because I wanted to use it to get “back in shape” for medicine as I felt that I had forgotten most of what I had learnt during my pre-clinical years. Also I wasn’t too happy with how my PhD went so I wanted something else to show for it (I am in the process of getting my main work published but it’s nothing game-changing).

It was mad trying to juggle thesis + studying but I spaced out the studying over 1 year and I was consistently writing up my publication as I did experiments so all I had to do for the thesis was transfer what I had written for the publications over. My school allows us to submit a thesis by publications so that helped.

Looking back, I would advice people who want to optimize their scores to do it after core rotations. But at the same time I am glad that I have step 2 out of the way so my focus this year will be on applying for electives and getting my clinical skills up to snuff + some time on the side to do a little bit of research as well.
thanks for sharing. i'm about 6 months out from returning to M3 year from the PhD and was just going to lightly to moderately pre-study/refresh my memory (OME, SU2M, Case Files). it really takes a lot of balls in my mind to take step 2 ck before the clerkships! congrats!
 

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thanks for sharing. i'm about 6 months out from returning to M3 year from the PhD and was just going to lightly to moderately pre-study/refresh my memory (OME, SU2M, Case Files). it really takes a lot of balls in my mind to take step 2 ck before the clerkships! congrats!
You’re definitely on the right track with OME, SU2M! In retrospect, perhaps more stupid than ballsy but glad it kinda worked out in the end. Hope your PhD went well and you’re excited to be back in Medicine. Hang in there! Almost at the finish line. Best of luck for everything.
 
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Took my exam 28 dec 2018. Got scores today: 261.

Left the exam feeling like I failed. Everything was a blur. Trust your practice scores.

Uworld: 1st pass 69%, 2nd pass 94%
Amboss: 69%
Kaplan: 76%
Kaplan simulated: 78%, 86%
CMS forms: 80-90% for all except psych; psych was difficult imo
NBME 6: 247 (3 months out), 7: 262, 8: 27x (low 270s) 7 and 8 done 3-4 days out
UWSA1: 290 (super inflated as I did zanki which covers UWSA)
UWSA2: 27x (super inflated as I did zanki)

I’m an MD-PhD IMG student who did the exam before completing any core rotations. I have only done 3 months of (med and surg) rotations prior to taking the step. Studied 1y part-time (during my last PhD year) and used it to ease the transition back into medicine after PhD. Have not done any psych, obs/gyn, or paeds. Did not find any one in a similar position as I was so just thought I would share my experience: it is possible to do okay even without completing core rotations although I would advice against it. Exam was very difficult and I left the exam thinking that the only thing that I could have done to improve my scores was more time on the wards.

Resources:
- SU2M and MTB (only used it as I had not been doing medicine for 4 years due to PhD so needed something to help relearn a lot of things I had forgotten)
- onlinemeded
- zanki and WiWA (very good resources; highly recommend; did both; WiWA is more comprehensive)

Step 1: 261 (2014; done during first year of PhD)
Hey, congrats! Did zanki have uwsa information in the normal deck or are you talking about the separate subdeck?
 

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You’re definitely on the right track with OME, SU2M! In retrospect, perhaps more stupid than ballsy but glad it kinda worked out in the end. Hope your PhD went well and you’re excited to be back in Medicine. Hang in there! Almost at the finish line. Best of luck for everything.
Do you think SU2M was necessary? I don’t like the layout of that book
 
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Hi, I have CK in 2 days and I'm freaking out/thinking about pushing my test back. I scored 255 on UWSA1 and 244 on UWSA2 but was tired. I haven't finished UWorld and haven't read any books and I'm thinking about pushing my exam back. I start rotations again Feb 4th and will not have time to study. Don't know what to do. I scored a 230 on Step 1 but didn't study much (got really lucky...have no idea how that happened considering I had a panic attack during the test). Also, for Step 1, I got 240 and 242 on the UWSAs but 230 on the exam...wondering how predictive the UWSAs are for Step 2...any advice will help
 
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Hello Y'all,

I'm a UK FMG, graduated in 2012, and currently doing my best to crack the nut that is the US medical system. My aim is Ortho but it's probably a pipe dream. Step 1 score an incredibly average 231. Anyhow...

8 weeks dedicated (ended up being 10). Started off with OME, paid, went through the pre material, lectures and questions to build a solid foundation. Tried to do a block of Uworld a day on tutor mode during this time. I bought MTB and the other book everyone uses but I didn't read either fully. MTB lacked so much info and the other one is just horrible to read.

NBME 6 at week 6 233. Two more weeks of OME.

Sat UWSA, scored 255 on part 1 and 241 on part 2. Decided to push my exam date from 4 days away to 2 weeks away to give myself time to finish uworld. I'd done about 30% at that point with around 65% average.

Smashed uWorld for 2 weeks, completed it and then started working through some of my incorrects.

2 days out - UWSA 1 again (I had bought it over a year ago, long story) scored 274. Took the FRED and got 93.3%. Looking in good shape right?

Took the test 2 days later... aaaaaaaaand....

Fairly certain I bombed it today. Tons of questions were really vague, not comparable to uWorld IMO. There seemed to be a general paucity of information, lots of terms and a quite a few conditions I wasn't familiar with. Tons of public health, modifiable risk factor type questions and best answer q's that I honestly had no idea about. Couldn't even narrow it down to the classic 50-50 situation with most of the tough ones.

Anyway, result comes back in four weeks. Apologies for being a tease. I'll update you then.
 
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Hello Y'all,

I'm a UK FMG, graduated in 2012, and currently doing my best to crack the nut that is the US medical system. My aim is Ortho but it's probably a pipe dream. Step 1 score an incredibly average 231. Anyhow...

8 weeks dedicated (ended up being 10). Started off with OME, paid, went through the pre material, lectures and questions to build a solid foundation. Tried to do a block of Uworld a day on tutor mode during this time. I bought MTB and the other book everyone uses but I didn't read either fully. MTB lacked so much info and the other one is just horrible to read.

NBME 6 at week 6 233. Two more weeks of OME.

Sat UWSA, scored 255 on part 1 and 241 on part 2. Decided to push my exam date from 4 days away to 2 weeks away to give myself time to finish uworld. I'd done about 30% at that point with around 65% average.

Smashed uWorld for 2 weeks, completed it and then started working through some of my incorrects.

2 days out - UWSA 1 again (I had bought it over a year ago, long story) scored 274. Took the FRED and got 93.3%. Looking in good shape right?

Took the test 2 days later... aaaaaaaaand....

Fairly certain I bombed it today. Tons of questions were really vague, not comparable to uWorld IMO. There seemed to be a general paucity of information, lots of terms and a quite a few conditions I wasn't familiar with. Tons of public health, modifiable risk factor type questions and best answer q's that I honestly had no idea about. Couldn't even narrow it down to the classic 50-50 situation with most of the tough ones.

Anyway, result comes back in four weeks. Apologies for being a tease. I'll update you then.
I feel the same way...I think I took it the day before you .I keep on remembering questions I got wrong...the list keeps going up. Seriously having bad anxiety about it... I'm fairly certain I failed.
 
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I feel the same way...I think I took it the day before you .I keep on remembering questions I got wrong...the list keeps going up. Seriously having bad anxiety about it... I'm fairly certain I failed.
Acute stress disorder. I'm ready for 2 CK.
 

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Took my exam 28 dec 2018. Got scores today: 261.

Left the exam feeling like I failed. Everything was a blur. Trust your practice scores.

Uworld: 1st pass 69%, 2nd pass 94%
Amboss: 69%
Kaplan: 76%
Kaplan simulated: 78%, 86%
CMS forms: 80-90% for all except psych; psych was difficult imo
NBME 6: 247 (3 months out), 7: 262, 8: 27x (low 270s) 7 and 8 done 3-4 days out
UWSA1: 290 (super inflated as I did zanki which covers UWSA)
UWSA2: 27x (super inflated as I did zanki)

I’m an MD-PhD IMG student who did the exam before completing any core rotations. I have only done 3 months of (med and surg) rotations prior to taking the step. Studied 1y part-time (during my last PhD year) and used it to ease the transition back into medicine after PhD. Have not done any psych, obs/gyn, or paeds. Did not find any one in a similar position as I was so just thought I would share my experience: it is possible to do okay even without completing core rotations although I would advice against it. Exam was very difficult and I left the exam thinking that the only thing that I could have done to improve my scores was more time on the wards.

Resources:
- SU2M and MTB (only used it as I had not been doing medicine for 4 years due to PhD so needed something to help relearn a lot of things I had forgotten)
- onlinemeded
- zanki and WiWA (very good resources; highly recommend; did both; WiWA is more comprehensive)

Step 1: 261 (2014; done during first year of PhD)
Out of all the qbanks/practice test you used, which felt like the real thing in regards to question style? I’m debating on going through amboss in these last two weeks but haven’t decided yet.
 

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Out of all the qbanks/practice test you used, which felt like the real thing in regards to question style? I’m debating on going through amboss in these last two weeks but haven’t decided yet.
None of them were similar tbh. Amboss is good to nail down concepts but quite demoralizing. It is a harder qbank than UW in my opinion in that the questions are a little more twisted and meant to "trick" you which is unlike the actual step 2. Step 2 questions were not tricky per se (e.g. there wasn't any amoxicillin for Lyme disease <8y rather than doxycycline type questions for me).

That said, I would recommend it if you are done with Uworld, and do not have any glaringly weak subject/topic, just to see more questions. Practice as many questions so you get really comfortable with timing. I had no problem with timing; had about 10-15 mins to spare at the end of each block to go over my flagged questions and I attribute that to doing loads of questions.

Also do not overthink. I got a couple wrong because I read too much into them. E.g. best diagnostic modality for PE in healthy kidneys is CT (although it should technically be spiral or CTPA). Do not overthink CT vs CTPA vs spiral CT. The questions on step 2 are not tricky.

CMS is good as well. One thing that stood out about step 2 was the number of ethics questions (I had about 2 every block). I had 2 drug advert questions in total as well.

All the best.
 
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Failed step 2 CK with 203 (6 months ago). Retook it and just got my score yesterday.

UWSA 2 = 213 (2 weeks before exam)
Free 120 = 99/120 (%82.5) (3 days before exam)

Step 2 CK = 222.

So happy for you! In same boat, failed now rewaiting for my new score. Still felt crushed after exam but hoping my efforts paid off this time. Did u feel just as bad when u walked out second time?
 

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So happy for you! In same boat, failed now rewaiting for my new score. Still felt crushed after exam but hoping my efforts paid off this time. Did u feel just as bad when u walked out second time?
What were your practice scores first time?
I scored nbme 6 170, uwsa1 230 and uwsa2 245. Test next week and I’m scared af. Been really hard to sleep knowing it’s coming up. Anytime I take a practice test I feel like I stepping on egg shells and I imagine that’s how I’ll feel for the real thing lol
 
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The biggest lesson I learned was that I needed confidence, i know it sounds cliche, but after failing the first time I got a tutor and we went over every topic and tbh I had a sound knowledge base but I KEPT CHANGING ANSWERS DOUBTING MYSELF. So I stopped changing answers, gained some confidence after doing all of uworld again, and better test strategies. You need stamina so eat carbs before bed so u can actually sleep. You will be nervous no way around it, but let that be ur driving force not ur hinderence. Im sure you will do fine, trust all ur hard work will pay off
 

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The biggest lesson I learned was that I needed confidence, i know it sounds cliche, but after failing the first time I got a tutor and we went over every topic and tbh I had a sound knowledge base but I KEPT CHANGING ANSWERS DOUBTING MYSELF. So I stopped changing answers, gained some confidence after doing all of uworld again, and better test strategies. You need stamina so eat carbs before bed so u can actually sleep. You will be nervous no way around it, but let that be ur driving force not ur hinderence. Im sure you will do fine, trust all ur hard work will pay off
Doubting myself is definitely one of my bigger problems and waste a lot of time!
 
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My two cents: take step 3 ASAP... it is extremely similar to step 2CK and you clearly know the material inside and out! Congratulations on such a great score!
hello, i want to ask if step 3 on the cv helps if one does poorly on step 1? or would they filter out based on low step 1 score and not care about step 3?
 
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hello, i want to ask if step 3 on the cv helps if one does poorly on step 1? or would they filter out based on low step 1 score and not care about step 3?
I'm not sure if this is the correct forum for this question but from what I've heard/experienced, step 3 doesn't really make a difference for interviewing purposes. IMO, if you did poorly on step 1, you need to focus on acing step 2 ck and then plan based on that. If you score poorly on step 1 and step 2 and then ace step 3, I don't think it helps. If you scored poorly on step 1, aced step 2ck and aced step 3 then you could argue that step 1 was a fluke and the others are a closer representation to your abilities. Even then, a poor step 1 score is difficult to salvage and you'll need to apply broadly (also depends on what your definition of "poor" is and what you're applying to). You can PM if you want
 
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So I gave my exam on the 9th and have been waiting for my results since 4 weeks. I tried the Step 3 trick to apply and for the past week I couldn't apply and today I can. I hope that's a positive sign that I passed!!! I have been stressing out ever since I came out of the exam that I didn't so I'm hoping that the fact that I can register for my Step 3 means I passed!

About what time eastern time were you able to sign up for step 3 on Tuesday ( the day before your exam?). Im trying 3 am still no progress im hoping that later in yhe day it will change
 
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Just got my score back today, thought I may as well add to the data since we are starting a new year.

NBME form 7, 2 days prior - 262
NBME form 8, 1 week prior - 252
UWSA 2, 2 weeks out I think - 269
NBME form 6, approx. 6 weeks prior - 241
UWSA 1, approx. 2 months prior - 260
Uworld average, 1st pass - 76.6% - did not do the questions a second time, but rather just speed read through all the explanations in the last 2 weeks. Would highly recommend that as opposed to wasting time going through the questions themselves again.

Step 2 CK score - 268

Overall Uworld 2 weeks out was pretty accurate so based on that data I'd say Uworld slightly overpredicted where I was at that time, and NBME definitely underpredicted, though not massively in the case of form 7. I also was feeling sick and not 100% on test day so not sure if that factors into things at all but definitely happy with my score regardless :).
 

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This forum did a great deal to ease my Step 2 worries so....

UWorld first pass: 69%
UWSA 1 2.5 weeks out: 240
UWSA 2 1.5 weeks out: 248

Real Deal: 248 :)

Resources:
OME
I started to read MTB and honestly found it to be rife with outdated/incorrect info as compared to UWorld.

Best of luck to those studying for this beast. For your reference I felt like I bombed the exam, this seems to be the norm so don't freak if you feel the same on test day.