Official 2019-2020 GI Fellowship Application Cycle

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GastriqueGraffin said:
The program wants to be sure that 1. They fill every spot and 2. You’d be a good match. In that order.

If it’s a regional program then they are worried that you will not rank them high if you clearly have no ties. They will likely ask you in the interview why you want to be in that region to see if there’s more to it then you are just applying everywhere. Or if you are overqualified or looking for something more research oriented then you might not come if they are more of a regional program (usually less research oriented). They don’t want to be your “backup”.
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Its challenging to understand which programs are more research-oriented vs clinical focused. Its a catch because you don't want to look unappealing to a program because of "saying the wrong thing" on your personal statement. As an IMG you dont really have the option to pick and chose region, research focus, size, etc. I didnt have a lot of exposure to transplant hepatology or advanced endoscopy in my community residency program and I hope to join a fellowship that is able to provide this. To think that some programs with these opportunities will filter me out because of where I did my residency seems unfair because residency selection was only partially in my hands. The disadvantage is real.
 
mr1226 said:
Its challenging to understand which programs are more research-oriented vs clinical focused. Its a catch because you don't want to look unappealing to a program because of "saying the wrong thing" on your personal statement. As an IMG you dont really have the option to pick and chose region, research focus, size, etc. I didnt have a lot of exposure to transplant hepatology or advanced endoscopy in my community residency program and I hope to join a fellowship that is able to provide this. To think that some programs with these opportunities will filter me out because of where I did my residency seems unfair because residency selection was only partially in my hands. The disadvantage is real.
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I totally get where you’re coming from. I’m just trying to give the perspective of a program to answer a question. There’s a reason why a regional/community program doesn’t just invite the strongest applicants. Also unless you are a trained actor or professional salesman you should not tell a program what you think they want to hear.
 
GastriqueGraffin said:
I totally get where you’re coming from. I’m just trying to give the perspective of a program to answer a question. There’s a reason why a regional/community program doesn’t just invite the strongest applicants. Also unless you are a trained actor or professional salesman you should not tell a program what you think they want to hear.
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Well said
 
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keep In mind that many programs are still in transition of incoming fellows. They will start sending invites soon.
 
AMG-

UTSW: 7/19
Mayo: 7/21
Vanderbilt: 7/21
South Alabama: 7/22
UWash: 7/22
Yale: 7/23
Methodist-Dallas: 7/23
Cincinnati: 7/26
Tulane: 7/26

IMG-Not needing Visa-


IMG-requiring visa-
 
AMG-

UTSW: 7/19
Mayo: 7/21
Vanderbilt: 7/21
South Alabama: 7/22
UWash: 7/22
Yale: 7/23
Methodist-Dallas: 7/23
Mayo - Jacksonville 7/24
Cincinnati: 7/26
Tulane: 7/26
Vermont 7/26
BU 7/26

IMG-Not needing Visa-


IMG-requiring visa-
 
AMG-

UTSW: 7/19
Mayo: 7/21
Vanderbilt: 7/21
South Alabama: 7/22
UWash: 7/22
Yale: 7/23
Methodist-Dallas: 7/23
Mayo - Jacksonville 7/24
Cincinnati: 7/26
Tulane: 7/26
Vermont 7/26
BU 7/26
Oschner 7/26

IMG-Not needing Visa-


IMG-requiring visa-
 
AMG-

UTSW: 7/19
Mayo: 7/21
Vanderbilt: 7/21
South Alabama: 7/22
UWash: 7/22
Yale: 7/23
Methodist-Dallas: 7/23
Mayo - Jacksonville 7/24
Cincinnati: 7/26
Tulane: 7/26
Vermont 7/26
BU 7/26
Oschner 7/26
UNC 7/26

IMG-Not needing Visa-


IMG-requiring visa-
 
ShiShiMD said:
It’s that time again.
Please post your credential (if you like) questions, comments and suggestions for this years cycle.

We wish you the best in this coming season and hope everyone reaches their goals.

(Moderators please make this a sticky)

Thank you all
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Hi, what are the chances for me to match in GI this year?

IMG, J1 visa
Current resident at a good academic university program (temple)
Step 1 257, step 2 260, step 3 240, step 2 cs pass
4 letters, 1 GI, 1 Hepatology 1 PD and 1 IM
3 oral presentations 5 poster presentations (acg/aasld/regional)
one systematic review being worked on

any idea? thanks
 
LUC123 said:
Hi, what are the chances for me to match in GI this year?

IMG, J1 visa
Current resident at a good academic university program (temple)
Step 1 257, step 2 260, step 3 240, step 2 cs pass
4 letters, 1 GI, 1 Hepatology 1 PD and 1 IM
3 oral presentations 5 poster presentations (acg/aasld/regional)
one systematic review being worked on

any idea? thanks
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2 manuscripts are being written, but not completed..
 
Starting to freak out since some people are getting invites so want to know what my realistic chances are outside of my home institution:

American grad, MD, US citizen
Step 1 - 203, Step 2 CK - 211 (CK passed), Step 3 - 227. All on first try.
Mid-tier University Med School
Mid-tier University Residency Program
4 LORs, 3 from GI, 1 from IM PD

14 posters (DDW, ACG, AASLD, ISHEN, ACS), presenter on majority of them
6 oral presentation
2 Published case reports, 3 accepted but not yet published, 4 submitted/under review
2 Published manuscripts, 5 submitted/under review. (Some multi-institutional but only first author on 3 of the 7)
3 Active projects
1 Basic science thesis
6 Food critic articles

Not AOA but recipient of 2 National AOA Research Awards for GI related projects (but honestly MyERAS kinda buried this in the footnotes of the application).

Applied to 70 programs. Any [brutally honest] input would be great. Thanks!
 
LUC123 said:
Hi, what are the chances for me to match in GI this year?

IMG, J1 visa
Current resident at a good academic university program (temple)
Step 1 257, step 2 260, step 3 240, step 2 cs pass
4 letters, 1 GI, 1 Hepatology 1 PD and 1 IM
3 oral presentations 5 poster presentations (acg/aasld/regional)
one systematic review being worked on

any idea? thanks
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I hope one LOR is from their motility department. The head of that department has extremely powerful friends.
 
Dr8sian said:
Starting to freak out since some people are getting invites so want to know what my realistic chances are outside of my home institution:

American grad, MD, US citizen
Step 1 - 203, Step 2 CK - 211 (CK passed), Step 3 - 227. All on first try.
Mid-tier University Med School
Mid-tier University Residency Program
4 LORs, 3 from GI, 1 from IM PD

14 posters (DDW, ACG, AASLD, ISHEN, ACS), presenter on majority of them
6 oral presentation
2 Published case reports, 3 accepted but not yet published, 4 submitted/under review
2 Published manuscripts, 5 submitted/under review. (Some multi-institutional but only first author on 3 of the 7)
3 Active projects
1 Basic science thesis
6 Food critic articles

Not AOA but recipient of 2 National AOA Research Awards for GI related projects (but honestly MyERAS kinda buried this in the footnotes of the application).

Applied to 70 programs. Any [brutally honest] input would be great. Thanks!
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Biggest chance is your home school / Residency program.

You might not even get an interview. Start planning for plan B and Plan C.
 
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American grad, MD, US citizen
Step 1 - 240s Step 2 - 250s CS passed first attempt, Step 3 (pending at time of application)
Top 15 Med School
Top 20 Residency Program
4 LORs, 3 from GI, 1 from IM PD

11 peer reviewed journal publications
3-5 poster presentations (DDW, ACG)
1 book chapter

Not AOA.

Applied to 63 programs.
 
Dr8sian said:
Starting to freak out since some people are getting invites so want to know what my realistic chances are outside of my home institution:

American grad, MD, US citizen
Step 1 - 203, Step 2 CK - 211 (CK passed), Step 3 - 227. All on first try.
Mid-tier University Med School
Mid-tier University Residency Program
4 LORs, 3 from GI, 1 from IM PD

14 posters (DDW, ACG, AASLD, ISHEN, ACS), presenter on majority of them
6 oral presentation
2 Published case reports, 3 accepted but not yet published, 4 submitted/under review
2 Published manuscripts, 5 submitted/under review. (Some multi-institutional but only first author on 3 of the 7)
3 Active projects
1 Basic science thesis
6 Food critic articles

Not AOA but recipient of 2 National AOA Research Awards for GI related projects (but honestly MyERAS kinda buried this in the footnotes of the application).

Applied to 70 programs. Any [brutally honest] input would be great. Thanks!
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I have similar stats, but closer to average step scores, except failed step 2 CS(like a fool, didn't study at all). Also mid-tier US MD and mid-tier IM program. Less research with 5 published abstracts/posters, 5 oral presentations(some state-level, 1 national), 1 manuscript submitted and a couple of national awards in GI related stuff. I'm sure I wasted a bunch of money applying. Debated sending an application, but our chief of GI suggested to 'see what happens.' I'll beg some people I know to put in a word for me to skeem some interviews but even if that works, I highly doubt anyone will rank me after a courtesy interview.

I'm sure lower step scores will weed me out of almost all interviews. This sucks.
 
premedk said:
I have similar stats, but closer to average step scores, except failed step 2 CS(like a fool, didn't study at all). Also mid-tier US MD and mid-tier IM program. Less research with 5 published abstracts/posters, 5 oral presentations(some state-level, 1 national), 1 manuscript submitted and a couple of national awards in GI related stuff. I'm sure I wasted a bunch of money applying. Debated sending an application, but our chief of GI suggested to 'see what happens.' I'll beg some people I know to put in a word for me to skeem some interviews but even if that works, I highly doubt anyone will rank me after a courtesy interview.

I'm sure lower step scores will weed me out of almost all interviews. This sucks.
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That’s something doing a Chief year could have helped out with
 
IMG Green card holder
Step 1 235, Step2 243, CS pass, Step3 221
Community program
4 letters, 2GI, 1 from big top 10 hospitals in country where I did elective, 1 home GI, 1 IM PD and 1 chair.
3 publications, 3 posters all first author (ACG,DDW,ACP) 4 posters regional ACP
Currently working on 3 reviews, a case and 2 IRB approved retrospectives (mentioned them in the CV)

Applied to 150+

I think I wasted 4 grand applying, any [brutal] honest opinion about my chances? Or more frankly shall I do hepatology year or research?
 
LUC123 said:
Hi, what are the chances for me to match in GI this year?

IMG, J1 visa
Current resident at a good academic university program (temple)
Step 1 257, step 2 260, step 3 240, step 2 cs pass
4 letters, 1 GI, 1 Hepatology 1 PD and 1 IM
3 oral presentations 5 poster presentations (acg/aasld/regional)
one systematic review being worked on

any idea? thanks
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your residency program and scores are strong points. Lack of publications does raise eyebrows. You should get 5-10 IVs. Still in house is your strongest chance
 
Dr8sian said:
Starting to freak out since some people are getting invites so want to know what my realistic chances are outside of my home institution:

American grad, MD, US citizen
Step 1 - 203, Step 2 CK - 211 (CK passed), Step 3 - 227. All on first try.
Mid-tier University Med School
Mid-tier University Residency Program
4 LORs, 3 from GI, 1 from IM PD

14 posters (DDW, ACG, AASLD, ISHEN, ACS), presenter on majority of them
6 oral presentation
2 Published case reports, 3 accepted but not yet published, 4 submitted/under review
2 Published manuscripts, 5 submitted/under review. (Some multi-institutional but only first author on 3 of the 7)
3 Active projects
1 Basic science thesis
6 Food critic articles

Not AOA but recipient of 2 National AOA Research Awards for GI related projects (but honestly MyERAS kinda buried this in the footnotes of the application).

Applied to 70 programs. Any [brutally honest] input would be great. Thanks!
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why not apply all 160 programs? Whats the limiting factor?
 
Scope guy said:
your residency program and scores are strong points. Lack of publications does raise eyebrows. You should get 5-10 IVs. Still in house is your strongest chance
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Coming from Temple or any of the ANMS programs, if the applicant has showed interest in motility they are ranked very high.

Interest in motility is getting involved in research, Doing elective, going to the ANMS meetings or conferences and joining ANMS and putting it on the application.

Motility in my opinion is huge game changer.
 
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Crazy342 said:
AMG-

UTSW: 7/19
Mayo: 7/21
Vanderbilt: 7/21
South Alabama: 7/22
UWash: 7/22
Yale: 7/23
Methodist-Dallas: 7/23
Mayo - Jacksonville 7/24
Cincinnati: 7/26
Tulane: 7/26
Vermont 7/26
BU 7/26
Oschner 7/26
UNC 7/26
NYU-7/29

IMG-Not needing Visa-


IMG-requiring visa-
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AMG-

UTSW: 7/19
Mayo: 7/21
Vanderbilt: 7/21
South Alabama: 7/22
UWash: 7/22
Yale: 7/23
Methodist-Dallas: 7/23
Mayo - Jacksonville 7/24
Cincinnati: 7/26
Tulane: 7/26
Vermont 7/26
BU 7/26
Oschner 7/26
UNC 7/26, 7/29
NYU-7/29
USF: 7/29

IMG-Not needing Visa-


IMG-requiring visa-
 
AMG-
Colorado: 7/29
Cincinnati: 7/26
UTSW: 7/19
Mayo: 7/21
Vanderbilt: 7/18, 7/21
South Alabama: 7/22
UWash: 7/22
Yale: 7/23
Methodist-Dallas: 7/23
Mayo - Jacksonville 7/24, 7/25
Tulane: 7/26
Vermont 7/26
BU 7/26
Oschner 7/26
UNC 7/26, 7/29
NYU-7/29
USF: 7/29

IMG-Not needing Visa-


IMG-requiring visa-
 
AMG-
Colorado: 7/29
Cincinnati: 7/26
UTSW: 7/19
Mayo: 7/21
Vanderbilt: 7/18, 7/21
South Alabama: 7/22
UWash: 7/22
Yale: 7/23
Methodist-Dallas: 7/23
Mayo - Jacksonville 7/24, 7/25
Tulane: 7/26
Vermont 7/26
BU 7/26
Oschner 7/26
UNC 7/26, 7/29
NYU-7/29
USF: 7/29
UF Jacksonville: 7/29

IMG-Not needing Visa-


IMG-requiring visa-
 
GastriqueGraffin said:
The program wants to be sure that 1. They fill every spot and 2. You’d be a good match. In that order.

If it’s a regional program then they are worried that you will not rank them high if you clearly have no ties. They will likely ask you in the interview why you want to be in that region to see if there’s more to it then you are just applying everywhere. Or if you are overqualified or looking for something more research oriented then you might not come if they are more of a regional program (usually less research oriented). They don’t want to be your “backup”.
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40% of those who matched are internal candidates.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Landing a GI Fellowship: The Match and the Map - PubMed

A large proportion of gastroenterologists were either internal applicants or local applicants. Further research is necessary to better understand the reasons behind these trends and whether the bias against external or geographically distant fellowship candidates is intended or unintended, as...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
One question on IVs asked is: Have you ever had any conflict or interpersonal issues with anyone in the workplace? I have always found this question difficult and tough to answer. How do people answer this?
 
GastriqueGraffin said:
That’s something doing a Chief year could have helped out with
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Well I was hired as faculty at my med school. So I'm effectively doing the same type of work. I was still debating on taking the hit and take less than half the pay to do and double the work and ask for a chief title, but that doesn't always get you interviews either. I guess I've some time to figure out my next move while on this cush academic job. But not a fan of gen internal med for a variety of reasons so I'll not sure what I'll do next.

But a whopping zero interviews so far. My GI letter just got uploaded so maybe that'll make a difference.
 
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I see that AOA status being mentioned here a few times. How much does it matter on the fellowship application stage?
 
coconutwater16 said:
One question on IVs asked is: Have you ever had any conflict or interpersonal issues with anyone in the workplace? I have always found this question difficult and tough to answer. How do people answer this?
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Everyone has issues with call schedule, clinic and vacation. The most important important factors are to make sure:
1) remember patient care is paramount
2) you deal with issues in a polite and one on one matter
3) out your self in the other persons shoes
4) come to a common ground
5) look at the issue from different angles and perspectives
6) be professional
7) try to see why and how you can help others and your self
8) ask for help
9) never be rude
10) don’t go running to the chief or department head before even trying to fix the issue your self
 
AMG-
Colorado: 7/29
Cincinnati: 7/26
UTSW: 7/19
Mayo: 7/21
Vanderbilt: 7/18, 7/21
South Alabama: 7/22
UWash: 7/22
Yale: 7/23
Methodist-Dallas: 7/23
Mayo - Jacksonville 7/24, 7/25
Tulane: 7/26
Vermont 7/26
BU 7/26
Oschner 7/26
UNC 7/26, 7/29
NYU-7/29
USF: 7/29
UF Jacksonville: 7/29

IMG-Not needing Visa-
7/23 Yale
7/25 MCW Milwaukee

IMG-requiring visa-
7/25 Mayo Jax
 
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AMG-
Colorado: 7/29
Cincinnati: 7/26
UTSW: 7/19
Mayo: 7/21
Vanderbilt: 7/18, 7/21
South Alabama: 7/22
UWash: 7/22
Yale: 7/23
Methodist-Dallas: 7/23
Mayo - Jacksonville 7/24, 7/25
Tulane: 7/26
Vermont 7/26
BU 7/26
Oschner 7/26
UNC 7/26, 7/29
NYU-7/29
USF: 7/29
UF Jacksonville: 7/29
MGH- 7/30

IMG-Not needing Visa-
7/23 Yale
7/25 MCW Milwaukee

IMG-requiring visa-
7/25 Mayo Jax[/QUOTE]
 
Reformatting this into date format, similar to previous years.

AMG
7/18: Vanderbilt
7/19: UTSW
7/21: Mayo, Vanderbilt
7/22: South Alabama, UWash
7/23: Yale, Methodist-Dallas
7/24: Mayo Jacksonville
7/25: Mayo Jacksonville
7/26: Cincinnati, Tulane, Vermont, BU, Oschner, UNC
7/29: Colorado, UNC, NYU, USF, UF Jacksonville
7/30: MGH, Mayo

IMG-Not needing Visa
7/23 Yale
7/25 MCW Milwaukee

IMG-requiring visa
7/25 Mayo Jax
 
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