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I plan on 10. I personally think that is much for me.How many programs are you all planning on interviewing at??
My concern is that with everything being virtual now, I'm not sure if the old norms of how many is enough still applies. My program directors were telling me that they interviewed a lot more candidates last year than they ever had because the virtual interviews made it cheaper for them to do so. So I'm planning to not turn down interviews until I start having difficulty scheduling them. Of course I am concerned about interview burnout, but I think I just have to power through.How many programs are you all planning on interviewing at??
A few weeks ago, BU mentioned on their website that they would send invitations starting on 8/20/21.I don’t know if everyone is only posting the invites that they personally got. So just in case i wanted to ask, has anyone heard about U Maryland, BU, or Columbia invites going out?
It seems like it would be pretty late for them if they hadn't, but still hoping.
No question is dumb! My seniors have told me it really can not hurt to send out an email expressing interest. They told me a couple of weeks after application. My thoughts:This is a really dumb question but from past threads if a program sent out a batch of interview from here and you haven't heard from them, would people recommend reaching out at a specified time or do programs typically send out 2nd batches of interview invites?
I applied to 15 programs.Out of curiosity, how many programs did you guys apply to?
I'm by no means an expert since I'm in the same boat as you all, but if you if look more closely at the data, it'll show that of the 404 applicants, only 374 had listed ID as their preferred specialty. Meaning that 30 of those were dual-applying with something else, likely a more competitive specialty like PCCM where people tend to apply ID as a backup and do CCM later if they don't match PCCM. And of the 39 unmatched, 13 of those actually matched into another specialty and likely a good portion of those 13 were dual applying. So in reality, the number of unmatched last year was 26. Look closely at Table 5 on page 16.Given that ID is considered one of the less competitive specialties and that there are always unfilled positions each year, what is the main reason for someone not matching? I know that there are multiple factors involved but is it usually as simple as not getting enough interviews?
For example, last year there were 39 unmatched applicants and 51 unfilled positions. I hope none of us have to worry about this but with people interviewing at more and more places due to everything being virtual, I get paranoid about not matching even with 10+ interviews. Do those 39 unmatched applicants typically scramble into one of those 51 spots? Not sure if they ever release that data. I also wonder how many applicants programs interview on average.
I haven't heard from any of these as well. Anyone hear from University of Southern California?I don’t know if everyone is only posting the invites that they personally got. So just in case i wanted to ask, has anyone heard about U Maryland, BU, or Columbia invites going out?
It seems like it would be pretty late for them if they hadn't, but still hoping.
I've heard from the other three LA-area programs, but not them.I haven't heard from any of these as well. Anyone hear from University of Southern California?
Hope you heard from them today too!!I haven't heard from any of these as well. Anyone hear from University of Southern California?
Coming from last years applicants; because of COVID and everything being on Zoom I applied to a lot of programs because cost was only factored into the initial application and no travel, hotel, etc. Plus you don't really have to worry about multiple suits or having to wash your suit as often.I applied to 20 programs. I will probably echo the earlier sentiment that 10 is probably a good number to interview, and even that is on the conservative side (meaning you don't need that much). Even if programs are interviewing more applicants, that doesn't affect the number of applicants in the applicant pool. That being said, the applicant pool did increase from 352 in 2019 to 404 in 2020, but I doubt that number would've grown exorbitantly high this year. And even last year, the people I knew who matched didn't do worst than their 3rd choice.
It's several things -Given that ID is considered one of the less competitive specialties and that there are always unfilled positions each year, what is the main reason for someone not matching? I know that there are multiple factors involved but is it usually as simple as not getting enough interviews?
For example, last year there were 39 unmatched applicants and 51 unfilled positions. I hope none of us have to worry about this but with people interviewing at more and more places due to everything being virtual, I get paranoid about not matching even with 10+ interviews. Do those 39 unmatched applicants typically scramble into one of those 51 spots? Not sure if they ever release that data. I also wonder how many applicants programs interview on average.
Geography because of family/relationships are definitely one of the reasons. If you look at an applicant like myself who didn't care and applied to practically every program except Cali and NYC and getting 15-20 interviews, I'd have to be a complete idiot to not have matched.I'm by no means an expert since I'm in the same boat as you all, but if you if look more closely at the data, it'll show that of the 404 applicants, only 374 had listed ID as their preferred specialty. Meaning that 30 of those were dual-applying with something else, likely a more competitive specialty like PCCM where people tend to apply ID as a backup and do CCM later if they don't match PCCM. And of the 39 unmatched, 13 of those actually matched into another specialty and likely a good portion of those 13 were dual applying. So in reality, the number of unmatched last year was 26. Look closely at Table 5 on page 16.
As for why, could be a good number of reasons:
1.) People who are VERY geographically tied down and applied/ranked only a couple of local programs and didn't get it. We've had a few people in my program in the last couple of years rank only the local program(s) (luckily they got it). But I can see how that can easily not work out well.
2.) Applicants with the perfect storm of bad stats - poor board scores and mediocre letters and no academic activities and coming from a lesser known residency. ID is known to be a less competitive specialty so it doesn't deter the applicants with suboptimal stats like cardiology, heme-onc, GI would. For example, if you know you have a poor application, you wouldn't bother applying to cardiology, but for ID there's always hope.
Charting Outcomes from 2018, granted a bit outdated, shows that you're basically guaranteed a match if you rank 4 programs as a US grad, and about 6 if you're an IMG. And even if you do rank 1-2 programs as a USMD (aka the suicide match), your chances are still pretty high.
Unfortunately, I don't think they release the data of those who went unmatched and took a position at an unfilled program. I could be wrong.
PMed youA general question ... for ID, is Henry Ford or Montefiore a better program ?