USMLE Official 2021 Step 2 CK Experiences With Scores Thread

[EMDoc22]

All right y'all, let's get this party started. Here's to a smooth sailing third year, no Prometric drama with Step 2, in-person aways and interviews, and no CS/hopefully PE.

School: bone wizard

Step 1: mid 230s
Level 1: mid 570s

Step 2 goal: 250+
Level 2 goal: 600+

Interests: EM, OB/GYN (distant second)

Rotations (in order): Peds, IM, FM, Psych, Neuro, Surgery, EM, OB/GYN and then several electives mixed in

Resources: UWorld, Online MedEd, Tzanki deck since it's shorter and the Step 1 decks burned me out, might check out B&B for Step 2 when it comes out since Dr. Ryan saved my butt on Step 1

My rotations go until the end of June and unfortunately my schedule is pretty backloaded with my final 3 rotations being EM, OB and ICU so I guess that means I'll be taking Step 2 in early July. Obviously I'm not sure how auditions/aways will be playing out next summer and if PE will be a thing so a lot up in the air right now in terms of scheduling. My school does COMATs for our shelf exams but I don't plan on using any DO-specific resources for COMATs or Level 2 as I've heard UWorld is all you need.

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[calivianya]

Officially scheduled the trifecta from hell, all to be completed in a 16-day period. My school doesn't finish third year rotations until the end of June so I'm currently scheduled for Step 2 and Level 2 CE in mid July so I have some time to study. My last rotation is ICU and my classmates have said we're done by 2:00ish each day (and no shelf exam) so I'm hoping maybe that'll be enough time to study and I can take them at the end of June instead. I just really don't want to be studying for boards during audition season. Might be a little too ambitious but we'll see.

I’m on the same timeline as you - last rotation is finishing 6/18. I’m waiting to get my permit for step 2... my school still hasn’t cleared us to register for comlex level 2 PE/CE, so it’s gonna be a while before I sign up for those, but at least I should have my step 2 permit soon.

I guess I’m going to be targeting somewhere between July 7th-16th for all three.

I’m still just not sure how scheduling is going to go. They were talking about taking our dedicated month because of COVID delays, so it’s possible that if I take time to study, that’s going to go against the few weeks of “free time“/admin time we’re supposed to get, so I wouldn’t have any weeks to take off for interviews later.

Not sure whether it would be better to skip dedicated to have time for interviews or not. I’m hoping maybe they’d at least let us have a virtual rotation next fall so if I lose that free time, I could at least be doing a virtual rotation during peak interview season. Not sure what I’m going to do otherwise, honestly.

 

[ohmanwaddup]

I’m on the same timeline as you - last rotation is finishing 6/18. I’m waiting to get my permit for step 2... my school still hasn’t cleared us to register for comlex level 2 PE/CE, so it’s gonna be a while before I sign up for those, but at least I should have my step 2 permit soon.

I guess I’m going to be targeting somewhere between July 7th-16th for all three.

I’m still just not sure how scheduling is going to go. They were talking about taking our dedicated month because of COVID delays, so it’s possible that if I take time to study, that’s going to go against the few weeks of “free time“/admin time we’re supposed to get, so I wouldn’t have any weeks to take off for interviews later.

Not sure whether it would be better to skip dedicated to have time for interviews or not. I’m hoping maybe they’d at least let us have a virtual rotation next fall so if I lose that free time, I could at least be doing a virtual rotation during peak interview season. Not sure what I’m going to do otherwise, honestly.

I just want to figure out what the hell is going on with PE. I tried to schedule last week and every thing was booked till late September.

 

[iforget2]

Officially scheduled the trifecta from hell, all to be completed in a 16-day period. My school doesn't finish third year rotations until the end of June so I'm currently scheduled for Step 2 and Level 2 CE in mid July so I have some time to study. My last rotation is ICU and my classmates have said we're done by 2:00ish each day (and no shelf exam) so I'm hoping maybe that'll be enough time to study and I can take them at the end of June instead. I just really don't want to be studying for boards during audition season. Might be a little too ambitious but we'll see.

I've been too scared to check the current prices, but give it to me straight: how much did scheduling all 3 cost you?

 

[EMDoc22]

I've been too scared to check the current prices, but give it to me straight: how much did scheduling all 3 cost you?

$2620 was the final ugly number. I did them all at once and felt nauseous the whole time and couldn't look at my account balance for like a week lol.

 

[FindersFee5]

Hopping in here because I figured this might be more useful for the 2021 crew than the 2020s.

Just got my score back and figured I'd do a very brief writeup, but honestly I don't have that much useful to say other than studying well for step 1 IS studying for step 2.

UW%: 80%, only one pass.
Shelfs: not sure exactly, but >85th percentile on all except OB
UWSA1: 269
UWSA2: 271
Old Free 120: 88%
New Free 120: 88%

Real thing: 273

What I did: I did all but 400 medicine questions during rotations, and then had about 150 new questions in other areas added by the time I started my study period (3 weeks in October - November). I did those plus about half my incorrects and the UWSA during that time. Also did some of the NBMEs unscored+untimed on the embience. I listened to some divine intervention podcasts on weak areas and the new material, which were helpful but not the godsend some people made them out to be. I do wish I had listened to his immunodeficiency podcast because I had literally 15+ immunodeficiency questions on test - pretty hard ones too, like best second line antibiotics to use in a XLA kid with who had a penicillin allergy.

But honestly, my specific preparation methods for step 2 were nothing special. I don't have anything particularly useful or novel to say about it.

What I will say is that the amount I grinded for step 1 was SUPER helpful. There were definitely some step 1 tidbits that I had subconsciously buried that came to life on test day and helped me out. Even more so though, the mental prep I did in understanding how the USMLE likes to ask questions was really critical. I continued to use the question strategy I talked about in my step 1 guide (An excessively exhaustive guide to Step 1 preparation from a 268 scorer). For step 2 though, there were a few additional steps I liked to take.

One common complaint I heard from classmates with shelf exams/Step 2 is that there are multiple right answers. This is half-true: there are multiple answers that are correct for the patient's disease process, but not multiple right answers that are appropriate for the patient's current condition. Training yourself to first recognize patient condition is one of the most important things you can do for step 2. Patients in step 1 questions are almost always sick, and the management option is usually some specific treatment you've memorized. Those who are not sick are obviously not sick, and when "do nothing" is one of the answer choices, I think it's often right >50% of the time. In step 2, the first thing you need to do is figure out whether a more subtly presenting patient is sick or not and then also make the determination of whether sick patients are stable or unstable. I actually think this is a really useful way to test us, because it's an often unconscious assessment you're constantly performing with patients on the wards.

To determine sick/not sick and stable/unstable, I would always look at the vitals first. Totally normal vitals? More likely they're not sick, look at the rest of the vignette for warning signs. Common warning signs - weight loss, bloody stool/vomit, diffuse abdominal pain, sudden onset neurologic sxs almost always point towards a more serious condition requiring further workup. If a patient has abnormal vitals, you need to make the assessment of whether they're stable or not. Unstable patients require more invasive measures, whether that is surgical intervention for hypotensive trauma patient or intubation for patient unable to protect airway or going into respiratory failure. Once you start making the sick/not-sick and stable/unstable distinction, you'll realize that you can often eliminate half or more of the answer choices right away and make your life significantly easier.

 

[Deecee2DO]

Hopping in here because I figured this might be more useful for the 2021 crew than the 2020s.

Just got my score back and figured I'd do a very brief writeup, but honestly I don't have that much useful to say other than studying well for step 1 IS studying for step 2.

UW%: 80%, only one pass.
Shelfs: not sure exactly, but >85th percentile on all except OB
UWSA1: 269
UWSA2: 271
Old Free 120: 88%
New Free 120: 88%

Real thing: 273

What I did: I did all but 400 medicine questions during rotations, and then had about 150 new questions in other areas added by the time I started my study period (3 weeks in October - November). I did those plus about half my incorrects and the UWSA during that time. Also did some of the NBMEs unscored+untimed on the embience. I listened to some divine intervention podcasts on weak areas and the new material, which were helpful but not the godsend some people made them out to be. I do wish I had listened to his immunodeficiency podcast because I had literally 15+ immunodeficiency questions on test - pretty hard ones too, like best second line antibiotics to use in a XLA kid with who had a penicillin allergy.

But honestly, my specific preparation methods for step 2 were nothing special. I don't have anything particularly useful or novel to say about it.

What I will say is that the amount I grinded for step 1 was SUPER helpful. There were definitely some step 1 tidbits that I had subconsciously buried that came to life on test day and helped me out. Even more so though, the mental prep I did in understanding how the USMLE likes to ask questions was really critical. I continued to use the question strategy I talked about in my step 1 guide (An excessively exhaustive guide to Step 1 preparation from a 268 scorer). For step 2 though, there were a few additional steps I liked to take.

One common complaint I heard from classmates with shelf exams/Step 2 is that there are multiple right answers. This is half-true: there are multiple answers that are correct for the patient's disease process, but not multiple right answers that are appropriate for the patient's current condition. Training yourself to first recognize patient condition is one of the most important things you can do for step 2. Patients in step 1 questions are almost always sick, and the management option is usually some specific treatment you've memorized. Those who are not sick are obviously not sick, and when "do nothing" is one of the answer choices, I think it's often right >50% of the time. In step 2, the first thing you need to do is figure out whether a more subtly presenting patient is sick or not and then also make the determination of whether sick patients are stable or unstable. I actually think this is a really useful way to test us, because it's an often unconscious assessment you're constantly performing with patients on the wards.

To determine sick/not sick and stable/unstable, I would always look at the vitals first. Totally normal vitals? More likely they're not sick, look at the rest of the vignette for warning signs. Common warning signs - weight loss, bloody stool/vomit, diffuse abdominal pain, sudden onset neurologic sxs almost always point towards a more serious condition requiring further workup. If a patient has abnormal vitals, you need to make the assessment of whether they're stable or not. Unstable patients require more invasive measures, whether that is surgical intervention for hypotensive trauma patient or intubation for patient unable to protect airway or going into respiratory failure. Once you start making the sick/not-sick and stable/unstable distinction, you'll realize that you can often eliminate half or more of the answer choices right away and make your life significantly easier.

For someone who hates anki (i dont use it and hopefully dont have to for Step 2) is it possible to hit my Step 1 score (254) or higher on Step 2 without using any of the premade step 2 decks? I just love questions and thats all ive done for all of my shelves which ive honored all so far. So basically my question is is anki required to wreck Step 2? You clearly wrecked both 1 and 2 so just want to know your input. Congrats on the 270+ thats crazy impressive

 

[FindersFee5]

For someone who hates anki (i dont use it and hopefully dont have to for Step 2) is it possible to hit my Step 1 score (254) or higher on Step 2 without using any of the premade step 2 decks? I just love questions and thats all ive done for all of my shelves which ive honored all so far. So basically my question is is anki required to wreck Step 2? You clearly wrecked both 1 and 2 so just want to know your input. Congrats on the 270+ thats crazy impressive

Yeah, I think anki is actually less necessary for step 2 than step 1. I didn't use premade anki decks for anything except medicine, although I did make my own decks from UWorld and external resources. Having good clinical gestalt and test taking skills is more important for this test than step 1.

 

[Deecee2DO]

Yeah, I think anki is actually less necessary for step 2 than step 1. I didn't use premade anki decks for anything except medicine, although I did make my own decks from UWorld and external resources. Having good clinical gestalt and test taking skills is more important for this test than step 1.

Thank you so much!!

 

[Cath Up]

Can any of you lovely people in the same part of this process as me tell me when a reasonably advantageous time to determine a specialty by is? I've no idea what I want to do and I think about it everyday and I have in my head that maybe June is okay? But then I'd have to apply to VSAS auditions (depending on specialty) far before that, if they even open for our early 4th year?

 

[Deecee2DO]

Can any of you lovely people in the same part of this process as me tell me when a reasonably advantageous time to determine a specialty by is? I've no idea what I want to do and I think about it everyday and I have in my head that maybe June is okay? But then I'd have to apply to VSAS auditions (depending on specialty) far before that, if they even open for our early 4th year?

Im an M3 too so I have no actual experience in this but I think not knowing still is okay since you havent done all rotations yet. June should be fine! I usually break it down by do u like Kids or adults then procedures or more cerebral/non procedural (or a mix of both ie PCC, GI, cards, anesthesia etc) then knowing a little about a lot or knowing a lot about a little. Thats how I stumbled upon my specialty of interest and then just spending some time in these fields

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

It kinda depends on how competitive of a field you end up applying to. Ortho as a DO? Better know by December, IM or Peds? Yeah I would say like June.

 

[Cath Up]

It kinda depends on how competitive of a field you end up applying to. Ortho as a DO? Better know by December, IM or Peds? Yeah I would say like June.

How late do you think a DO can safely commit to general surgery with some unrelated research and mid 240s step 1?

Im an M3 too so I have no actual experience in this but I think not knowing still is okay since you havent done all rotations yet. June should be fine! I usually break it down by do u like Kids or adults then procedures or more cerebral/non procedural (or a mix of both ie PCC, GI, cards, anesthesia etc) then knowing a little about a lot or knowing a lot about a little. Thats how I stumbled upon my specialty of interest and then just spending some time in these fields

Did you decide on something other than IM? I thought that is what you're after, and maybe a subspecialty? Thank you for your thoughts btw.

No kids but I've 100% loved the OR but don't know if I need it. I worry it's a similar thing of loving EM because it's intense, all new to me, high acuity, so it's easy to be interesting at first maybe. Maybe I'll give the mixed procedural specialties some more thought/get more exposure. Thank you. I'm not sure how open I am to GI/cards given how competitive they are though.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

How late do you think a DO can safely commit to general surgery with some unrelated research and mid 240s step 1?

Probably March or April. Just whenever VSAS opens so you can get aways lined up. With 240+ you have more leeway in GS, because MD programs aren’t audition heavy at all. Only like 1/33 match to a place they rotated (for MD programs)

 

[Cath Up]

Probably March or April. Just whenever VSAS opens so you can get aways lined up. With 240+ you have more leeway in GS, because MD programs aren’t audition heavy at all. Only like 1/33 match to a place they rotated (for MD programs)

Never heard the 1/33 stat. Thank you for the info.

 

[Deecee2DO]

How late do you think a DO can safely commit to general surgery with some unrelated research and mid 240s step 1?


Did you decide on something other than IM? I thought that is what you're after, and maybe a subspecialty? Thank you for your thoughts btw.

No kids but I've 100% loved the OR but don't know if I need it. I worry it's a similar thing of loving EM because it's intense, all new to me, high acuity, so it's easy to be interesting at first maybe. Maybe I'll give the mixed procedural specialties some more thought/get more exposure. Thank you. I'm not sure how open I am to GI/cards given how competitive they are though.

I want GI or Allergy! I could never do just IM. Dont u have a strong step score?

 

[Cath Up]

I want GI or Allergy! I could never do just IM. Dont u have a strong step score?

Ah thank you for clarifying!

Yeah mid 240s which I guess can probably help get one into most fellowships via a connected residency but I'm not sure I'd want to train for that long away from family, which is in a GME-sparse less DO-friendly region. Just trying to consider what future me will prioritize. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad.

 

[Deecee2DO]

Ah thank you for clarifying!

Yeah mid 240s which I guess can probably help get one into most fellowships via a connected residency but I'm not sure I'd want to train for that long away from family, which is in a GME-sparse less DO-friendly region. Just trying to consider what future me will prioritize. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad.

Yeah mid 240s is pretty boss. That score in and of itself leaves mucho doors open. Good luck keep us posted on your specialty decision! Explore GI, Cards or PCC if u like using ur hands and also having that medicine component. If a DO has a shot at GI/Cards id say you do. Maybe explore IR? IR is very competitive but its something to maybe look into

 

[calivianya]

Yeah mid 240s is pretty boss. That score in and of itself leaves mucho doors open. Good luck keep us posted on your specialty decision! Explore GI, Cards or PCC if u like using ur hands and also having that medicine component. If a DO has a shot at GI/Cards id say you do. Maybe explore IR? IR is very competitive but its something to maybe look into

I am low key thinking about applying IR and seeing what happens... I hope I can get some kind of DR/IR audition next year (we have no electives in third year). My step 1’s a little below the accepted DO average for it (but right at the accepted MD average) and my level 1 is above what DOs usually match with according to charting outcomes... not that any IR program is going to give a single crap about comlex.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

I am low key thinking about applying IR and seeing what happens... I hope I can get some kind of DR/IR audition next year (we have no electives in third year). My step 1’s a little below the accepted DO average for it (but right at the accepted MD average) and my level 1 is above what DOs usually match with according to charting outcomes... not that any IR program is going to give a single crap about comlex.

I love procedures. Like helping with procedures was my absolute favorite thing as a nurse, and I’ve enjoyed the eff out of all procedures my attendings have let me do so far. I can talk all day long about the shifts where they let me work as resource for my unit and I just followed my doc around and tag teamed lines, intubations, bronchs, chest tubes, etc.... best nights ever. Having a job that’s mostly procedures sounds lIke my idea of a perfect job tbh. I’m just not digging what I’m hearing about IR hours. I want some work/life balance and every IR I’ve been around has some whackadoodle call schedule where they end up working 100+ hour weeks. I’m not into that.

ENT or Urology is calling your name

 

[Dr. USMLE]

I am low key thinking about applying IR and seeing what happens... I hope I can get some kind of DR/IR audition next year (we have no electives in third year). My step 1’s a little below the accepted DO average for it (but right at the accepted MD average) and my level 1 is above what DOs usually match with according to charting outcomes... not that any IR program is going to give a single crap about comlex.

Having a job that’s mostly procedures sounds lIke my idea of a perfect job tbh. I’m just not digging what I’m hearing about IR hours. I want some work/life balance and every IR I’ve been around has some whackadoodle call schedule where they end up working 100+ hour weeks. I’m not into that.

Most IRs work about 50-60 hours a week.

In fact, I do not know a single IR that works over 80 hours a week so you've been exposed to some serious outliers.

Some IRs work outpatient only gigs that are 40 hours a week with no call obligations.

 

[calivianya]

ENT or Urology is calling your name

I do love a good penis joke.

Most IRs work about 50-60 hours a week.

In fact, I do not know a single IR that works over 80 hours a week so you've been exposed to some serious outliers.

Some IRs work outpatient only gigs that are 40 hours a week with no call obligations.

Wow! The one at my last job stayed on call pretty much every single day... not uncommon to come in in the middle of the night several times a week and still work full days every day, and come in for weekend call as well. And the one at my current rotation site does pretty much the same things. Nice to hear that isn’t the norm.

 

[Dantes]

I want GI or Allergy! I could never do just IM. Dont u have a strong step score?

I could never just do IM either lol but some of the sub-specialties interest me. The problem is idk if it's too risky to do IM just for a fellowship in case you don't match. Have you heard anything about that?

 

[Deecee2DO]

I could never just do IM either lol but some of the sub-specialties interest me. The problem is idk if it's too risky to do IM just for a fellowship in case you don't match. Have you heard anything about that?

If you arent picky with the program most fellowships are doable with exception to the more competitive ones like GI and Cards where theres no guarantee because they are actually mad competitive. PCC and HO are also competitive but less so than GI and Cards. The other ones are usually pretty doable. Allergy is somewhat tough because its a smaller specialty and there are less programs/spots

 

[Dantes]

If you arent picky with the program most fellowships are doable with exception to the more competitive ones like GI and Cards where theres no guarantee because they are actually mad competitive. PCC and HO are also competitive but less so than GI and Cards. The other ones are usually pretty doable. Allergy is somewhat tough because its a smaller specialty and there are less programs/spots

Oh yeah I was thinking cards. I have some soul searching to do then

 

[ohmanwaddup]

Started the IM uworld questions today and I am just getting wrecked. I'm only two weeks into the IM dorian deck so that is probably why but meh.

Surg questions were fine, Peds felt like a breeze, but this is something else.

 

[Deecee2DO]

Started the IM uworld questions today and I am just getting wrecked. I'm only two weeks into the IM dorian deck so that is probably why but meh.

Surg questions were fine, Peds felt like a breeze, but this is something else.

I havent done questions in like 6 weeks or looked at anything at all. i feel so dumb rn. Ive been off for 1 month lol start FM on Weds

 

[ohmanwaddup]

Also is there any word on PE? I'm wondering if I should schedule an October date now (nothing before that is open) to play it safe, do rotations care if I run off for a day to take PE?

God I wish I had just signed up for this back in september.

 

[calivianya]

Also is there any word on PE? I'm wondering if I should schedule an October date now (nothing before that is open) to play it safe, do rotations care if I run off for a day to take PE?

God I wish I had just signed up for this back in september.

I signed up the second my school gave us access (which was just like a couple weeks ago) and locked in an October 5th date. I’d rather lock in a date than not lock in a date at all.

We can always keep checking to see if anything earlier opens up. I’m going to keep checking at least a few times a week.

 

[Deecee2DO]

I signed up the second my school gave us access (which was just like a couple weeks ago) and locked in an October 5th date. I’d rather lock in a date than not lock in a date at all.

We can always keep checking to see if anything earlier opens up. I’m going to keep checking at least a few times a week.

Do programs even care about having PE for ranking and interviews? Especially academic programs.I just cant see it being super important other than a graduation requirement lol its also not a normal year due to covid and many of the class of 2021 hasnt been able to take it yet

 

[calivianya]

Do programs even care about having PE for ranking and interviews? Especially academic programs.I just cant see it being super important other than a graduation requirement lol its also not a normal year due to covid and many of the class of 2021 hasnt been able to take it yet

I don’t know how much programs are going to be paying attention to what’s going on. Especially when some of our classmates will have it and some won’t. A bunch of the people rotating with me from other schools have June or July dates. It just seems like when some of us obviously have it and some don’t, the ones who have it are going to be the lower risk candidates.

I really hope I’m wrong, but we’ll see.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Do programs even care about having PE for ranking and interviews? Especially academic programs.I just cant see it being super important other than a graduation requirement lol its also not a normal year due to covid and many of the class of 2021 hasnt been able to take it yet

In a normal cycle yes, very much so. It’s a very easy filter to employ. Most programs straight up say on their website you need a score to be ranked.

 

[Deecee2DO]

In a normal cycle yes, very much so. It’s a very easy filter to employ. Most programs straight up say on their website you need a score to be ranked.

Wow didnt know this. Thanks for telling me. What happens if I cant get a date does this mean it could drastically effect my target programs? Im applying to competitive academic IM as a DO and been working my ass off from day one so I hope this doesnt ruin my hard work lol

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Wow didnt know this. Thanks for telling me. What happens if I cant get a date does this mean it could drastically effect my target programs? Im applying to competitive academic IM as a DO and been working my ass off from day one so I hope this doesnt ruin my hard work lol

Yeah that’s the big issue right now, with the NBOME refusing to employ common sense I have to no idea how programs are going to respond. It definitely hasn’t hurt us this cycle obviously (can’t have a PE if there isn’t a test being delivered and no CS) but the NBOME needs to be very clear about what is going to happen going forward or it could hose you guys.

Persobally I think it’s important the NBOME follow the re-testing timeline of the NBME, whenever they state what that will be. That way PDs don’t have to have the extra burden of having to think about how the different exam delivery will affect the schedules. It would be very easy for a PD to just ignore DO applicants in that scenario as to avoid having to deal with that mess.

 

[Deecee2DO]

Yeah that’s the big issue right now, with the NBOME refusing to employ common sense I have to no idea how programs are going to respond. It definitely hasn’t hurt us this cycle obviously (can’t have a PE if there isn’t a test being delivered and no CS) but the NBOME needs to be very clear about what is going to happen going forward or it could hose you guys.

Persobally I think it’s important the NBOME follow the re-testing timeline of the NBME, whenever they state what that will be. That way PDs don’t have to have the extra burden of having to think about how the different exam delivery will affect the schedules. It would be very easy for a PD to just ignore DO applicants in that scenario as to avoid having to deal with that mess.

I would be livid if my entire career gets destroyed because of the NBOME miscommunication. Years of hard work down the drain and Im not the only one plenty of us work our tails off for their lazy asses to not get their **** together. Appalling

 

[Prehealth1011]

I would be livid if my entire career gets destroyed because of the NBOME miscommunication. Years of hard work down the drain and Im not the only one plenty of us work our tails off for their lazy asses to not get their **** together. Appalling

That's the DO life, unfortunately. They'll probably have the PE thing figured out for your class. Dw about it too much it's out of our hands

 

[Deecee2DO]

That's the DO life, unfortunately. They'll probably have the PE thing figured out for your class. Dw about it too much it's out of our hands

I hope so!! Covid fd us all. Trying to stay positive and hopefully the match for DOs this year will be as strong as last years

 

[Deecee2DO]

Doing FM UWorld questions. It seems like all OB fml. Hopefully my comat ends up being all MSK and IM stuff. I am SOOO bad at OB/Repro

 

[DrStephenStrange]

Are all DO students here registered for CE and PE yet? I was trying to registered for CE just now and I can't find any dates available (not even in 2022) for where I currently live. I was wondering if they just haven't added dates yet or if they're all just taken and I'm just too late.

 

[Deecee2DO]

Are all DO students here registered for CE and PE yet? I was trying to registered for CE just now and I can't find any dates available (not even in 2022) for where I currently live. I was wondering if they just haven't added dates yet or if they're all just taken and I'm just too late.

I think u mean CS and PE or CK and PE? CS isnt going on still i dont think bc of covid. PE you can get dates i havent gotten one yet

 

[DrStephenStrange]

I think u mean CS and PE or CK and PE? CS isnt going on still i dont think bc of covid. PE you can get dates i havent gotten one yet

I meant comlex level 2 CE (Cognitive Evaluation) and level 2 PE (Performance Evaluation).
CS (Clinical Skills) and CK (Clinical Knowledge) are USMLE step 2 tests.
I did end up registering for level 2 CE for July, but it was 2 hours away. Everywhere else closer to my area I couldn't find a date. Which got me worried. I couldn't tell if there weren't dates available yet or they were all just taken.

Edit: For PE, I saw that there were dates for September that were gone and some open dates in October and following months. Although, my school hasn't released me to register yet. I was just wondering if M3s could register for any of those dates with all the M4s that still haven't taken it.

 

[Deecee2DO]

I meant comlex level 2 CE (Cognitive Evaluation) and level 2 PE (Performance Evaluation).
CS (Clinical Skills) and CK (Clinical Knowledge) are USMLE step 2 tests.
I did end up registering for level 2 CE for July, but it was 2 hours away. Everywhere else closer to my area I couldn't find a date. Which got me worried. I couldn't tell if they weren't dates yet or they were all just taken.

Edit: For PE, I saw that there were dates for September that were gone and some open dates in October and following months. Although, my school hasn't released me to register yet. I was just wondering if M3s could register for any of those dates with all the M4s that still haven't taken it.

With all these M4s that still havent taken it how tf does the dingus NBOME expect all us M3s to have it completed by September when ERAS goes out. They are quite possibly the most idiotic organization of all time.

 

[iforget2]

Are all DO students here registered for CE and PE yet? I was trying to registered for CE just now and I can't find any dates available (not even in 2022) for where I currently live. I was wondering if they just haven't added dates yet or if they're all just taken and I'm just too late.

From their website they say they'll only release dates 6 months in advance. I still haven't been able to find any dates starting in July.

 

[DrStephenStrange]

From their website they say they'll only release dates 6 months in advance. I still haven't been able to find any dates starting in July.

Weird, I was able to sign up for a July date at a different prometric location. But you're probably right since they only had July and no other available dates. Thanks, for letting me know.

 

[Deecee2DO]

Whoever honored FM comat what did yall do? My goal is to finish all of FM UWorld questions and all of FM comquest as well as listen to Dr HY on youtube. Should I listen to OME medicine vids again? or do divine. Emma Holida doesnt have an FM video

 

[EMDoc22]

Whoever honored FM comat what did yall do? My goal is to finish all of FM UWorld questions and all of FM comquest as well as listen to Dr HY on youtube. Should I listen to OME medicine vids again? or do divine. Emma Holida doesnt have an FM video

For the FM COMAT all I did was UWorld FM questions and Anki. Got a 112. Honestly I think UWorld is good enough to score well and I thought their questions were harder than what was on the actual COMAT.

 

[Deecee2DO]

For the FM COMAT all I did was UWorld FM questions and Anki. Got a 112. Honestly I think UWorld is good enough to score well and I thought their questions were harder than what was on the actual COMAT.

Oh awesome sounds good! Thanks for the input. Yeah these UWorld questions are mad hard. I am getting like 60s and sometimes a 70 on a good day. I am just so weak in OB/gyn and peds since I haven't had either of those yet. Congrats on the 112 thats a great score

 

[EMDoc22]

Oh awesome sounds good! Thanks for the input. Yeah these UWorld questions are mad hard. I am getting like 60s and sometimes a 70 on a good day. I am just so weak in OB/gyn and peds since I haven't had either of those yet. Congrats on the 112 thats a great score

Thanks! I would also recommend the UWorld ambulatory med questions along with the FM questions. Mix them together and that should cover everything. And I was scoring similarly to you on UWorld and agree that they're tough. I did have peds before FM but haven't had OB yet and I don't remember having a ton of either one on my exam but other people have reported having a lot. I guess it's luck of the draw depending on what form you get.

 

[Deecee2DO]

Thanks! I would also recommend the UWorld ambulatory med questions along with the FM questions. Mix them together and that should cover everything. And I was scoring similarly to you on UWorld and agree that they're tough. I did have peds before FM but haven't had OB yet and I don't remember having a ton of either one on my exam but other people have reported having a lot. I guess it's luck of the draw depending on what form you get.

Did you do all of the ambulatory med questions?

 

[ohmanwaddup]

signed up for PE. Oct 26th PM in Chicago. This is such a joke lol

 

[EMDoc22]

Did you do all of the ambulatory med questions?

I think I had like 25-30 questions left in both sections by the time I took the exam.