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Hi everybody!

I will be applying to the Harvard program this coming fall or summer (haven't decided yet when to apply). I live and work in the Boston area so I have signed up for an english course (orientalism in british lit) this semester since I only took one english course in college and it was a writing course. Is anybody else taking this course??

Can somebody weigh in on my proposed course schedules? I have already taken all the chem requirements while in college so I only need to take bio, physics, possibly another english course (because the course I took in college was only a writing course) and possibly math (I had taken AP calculus BC in highschool and scored a 5, so I didn't have to take math in college. I understand that some medical schools accept AP credit). I also have a part-time job right now that I plan on keeping throughout.

option 1: take physics 1/2 over the summer, take bio 1/2 in the following fall and spring while volunteering/shadowing a lot and studying for the MCAT. pros: I only have to take one course at a time, I can study for the MCAT after having taken most of the pre-reqs. cons: need to take out a loan in order to take physics over the summer and would rather not do that. Also concerned about learning the material for two semesters in the course of just one summer.

option 2: take no courses over the summer but spend the time studying for the MCAT (refreshing myself on all the chem material), and spending a lot of time volunteering and shadowing. Take physics and bio over the fall and spring semesters. pros: I get to spend the next few months and the summer saving up for fall and spring courses, and I get to spend more time early on volunteering and shadowing, to make sure that med school is the right decision for me. cons: taking two courses at the same time while working part-time. I know that people can do this, but I would really like to focus on the material.

I'm leaning towards option 2, mostly because it is more financially feasible for me right now.

Sorry for the long post, and I look forward to meeting all of you in the fall semester!

-QC

Hey QC! I would opt for option #1. My logic is, you'll be taking out loans sooner or later, and a lot of them, 5k would be a small % of the total. This way when you start studying for the MCAT in the fall, you can study the physical science section, as well as the chem section, and you'll be learning the bio section. You'll at least get 3 sections in your mind, and study for the test on a whole, instead of in parts. With 1 class, you'll still have plenty of time to research/volunteer/work.

As for learning the material in 1 summer, yeh its going to be hard, but if you're passionate about what you're doing, and motivated, you'll do just fine. Nothings impossible. Plus from what i hear, sometimes the information can be truncated as to accommodate for the 'important stuff'. Again, its only my opinion, theres no wrong or right answers. Goodluck in your choice! I'll be kicking off the summer with Chem 1/2!
 
Has anyone taken Physics or Organic Chemistry over the summer at Harvard Summer School? Anyone have any opinions on these courses and the professors?
 
Thanks for the responses Moki and Decentdude. I guess I still have a few months to think about it. One thing about my financial situation is that my parents will pay for medical school but I want to pay for the post-bacc education myself. I could potentially get through the whole ordeal without taking out any loans and that would be a favorable situation for me.
 
Hey everyone,

I'm planning on doing the post bac program at Harvard starting fall 2010, after getting my B.A. in poli sci this june. Because I haven't done ANY pre-med prereqs in undergrad, I have a couple of questions about going to med school through the program.

First of all, the website states that the program provides classes from gen bio, gen chem, o chem, and physics. If there are other pre-reqs I need besides these, is it possible to take it through the program? Do I just take extra classes through harvard extension?

Also, is this program only helping those planning on med school, dental, or vet? What about pharmacy school? Is it all up to the individual's schedule?

I'd appreciate any help 🙂 and this forum is super helpful. thanks!!
 
You take courses through Harvard Extension School (HES). The Health Careers Program (HCP) serves as a pre-med, pre-vet, pre-etc department that provides advice and application support. In order for HCP to sponsor one for applcation, you must apply, be accepted, and fulfill their requirements, which consists mostly of a minumum GPA in HES courses. Some people, such as yourself, who have not taken any of the pre-requisites (the 4 you mentioned) may obtain a certificate, which allows you to get a Harvard Extension ID and other perks. There are a tremendous number of courses available through HES and people take them for all sorts of reasons. A lot of the students have nothing to do with HCP. In many, many ways, it is a self-service program.

Good luck.
 
Thanks for the info Moki.

So, not to be a downer or anything.. but I'm getting kind of confused with all the info on this forum. I was so excited about the HCP program and the diploma and everything, but some people have been telling me to pick a program with linkage. Is linkage all that important, because it seems as though the med schools which actually link are limited and people don't readily get in to med schools through linkage.

It seems, from this thread, that the Harvard post-bac is well regarded by med schools if one performs well. So am I missing something here? I'm trying to assess all my options before making a final decision.

Thanks
 
you're not missing something, you're just reading a bit into the words too literally in my opinion. In all programs, formal/informal post bacc, SMPs etc. the real bottom line is to do well. If you do poorly in a program which boosts an 85% linkage or something, you're going to be apart of th 15% who don't get in. The thing that all the members on SDN are all agreeing with is, linkage is an important portion in most of our decisions to go to a certain program because it's an ADDED element that increases the probability of getting into medical school after it's all said and done.

If we're paying money for a program who's nature is exclusively to get people into medical school, then it would obviously make common sense that if all things are equal, that we would decide to go to the one which gives us the highest percentage chance to enter medical school. That's all. There's nothing wrong with the HCP program from what I've read, it just doesn't have the "linkage" that alot of other programs like Goucher and Bryn Mawr have, it doesn't mean it's any less of a program in the academic sense, it just doesn't have that added option that increases your chance of getting into medical school that's outside your control.
 
you're not missing something, you're just reading a bit into the words too literally in my opinion. In all programs, formal/informal post bacc, SMPs etc. the real bottom line is to do well. If you do poorly in a program which boosts an 85% linkage or something, you're going to be apart of th 15% who don't get in. The thing that all the members on SDN are all agreeing with is, linkage is an important portion in most of our decisions to go to a certain program because it's an ADDED element that increases the probability of getting into medical school after it's all said and done.

If we're paying money for a program who's nature is exclusively to get people into medical school, then it would obviously make common sense that if all things are equal, that we would decide to go to the one which gives us the highest percentage chance to enter medical school. That's all. There's nothing wrong with the HCP program from what I've read, it just doesn't have the "linkage" that alot of other programs like Goucher and Bryn Mawr have, it doesn't mean it's any less of a program in the academic sense, it just doesn't have that added option that increases your chance of getting into medical school that's outside your control.
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Good summary post
 
Helloooo everyone :hello:,

I will be starting the HCP Program Harvard this coming fall and I am currently looking for a place to live along with butters and mbm, but I need at least one more girl to live with us so I'm not the only one! If any female is interested in housing, please PM me ASAP so we can all coordinate and get a good deal.

Gracias,

Pitufina
 
As someone with a bachelor's in music who has received a diploma from Harvard's HCP, I feel that I should clear a few things up. Definitely read through the website too!
http://www.extension.harvard.edu/hcp/default.jsp
http://www.extension.harvard.edu/2009-10/programs/hcp/sponsor/
http://www.extension.harvard.edu/2009-10/programs/hcp/diploma/

The program is an open-enrollment post-baccalaureate program. Anyone that applies and meets the two requirements will be accepted. If they feel you are not a good fit, they will send your check back; however this does not mean you are rejected. Simply state your case and they will let you in. Keep in mind that if they send back the check, it is probably for a valid reason. The program is not good for everyone. Some may need a grade-boosting program, which the diploma program is not. However, you may just go for the upper-level classes (of which there is a lot for bio and orgo).

As for the quality... I have heard from a few people that started their postbacs at other big postbac schools and then transferred that Harvard Extension is leaps and bounds better. The quality of instruction is great overall, though this shouldn't be confused with easy. It is Harvard. They are real Harvard professors and instructors. Personally, I like it so much here that I continue to take courses.

It's extremely cheap at roughly $1000 per 4-credit course. Most of the people I know had scholarships covering one course per semester. Plus, you can get a 1-bedroom apartment only a ten minute ride from campus (in Somerville/Cambridge) for under $1000/month. Studios and shares are even cheaper.

It prepares you well for the MCAT. But yes, you will most likely still have to study on your own just like everyone else. There is no magic formula.

Recommendations are fairly easy to get. Make sure you attend sections with your TFs (most of which are extremely helpful and available for help) and you will be golden. Of course it doesn't hurt to show up for office hours.

You will have plenty of extra help. Almost every class has weekly sections with a TF, available office hours, and exam, or weekly reviews. For help with applying, Dr. Fixsen is very knowledgeable.

Nearly all the Harvard libraries/museums/computer labs are freely available for diploma students (as well as free printing for Extension School students). You can always find a quiet place to study.

I started in the summer before my first year, taking gen chem. Then during the year I took bio/phys/orgo. The next summer I took molecular biology and biochemistry. Summer classes are completely doable, but you have to be willing to put in a lot of time. If you can't put in the time, don't bother. However, in the summer, the class sizes are about 1/2 of the norm, so there is a good chance you will become friendly with your professor and the teaching staff.

As for work... if you have done well previously in classes, it's possible to apply for TF positions. And with Beantown being the health industry/biotech capital of the country, there are plenty of places to volunteer/intern. People also get jobs in related fields at places such as MIT or Harvard Medical while applying. Don't forget that there are always a bunch of lab research positions available if you will be around for at least a year.

To get around town, and to class, almost everyone takes the T. While a normal monthly pass (for train/bus) is $60, for almost all healthcare employees and volunteers it is only $30. Single T rides are $1.70 with a free CharlieCard. Needless to say, many people here don't own cars. Did I mention that Cambridge is the birthplace of Zipcars? They're everywhere, and Harvard students/alumni (including Extension) get half-off memberships.

And now I'm not sure what more I can write about so I will leave it at that. Good luck with your decisions!
 
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Hey everyone! Still looking for some roomates starting HES in the summer of 2010! Looking for some extremely serious, over-ambitious, mature roomates who are serious about their education, but still know how to let loose once in a while. We have all been through college, not looking to room with alcoholics again. I've been looking at 3+ room apartments in the cambridge area with leases starting in June. PM me if you're interested!
 
Hey everyone, so I am thinking of starting in the summer with either Physics or Organic Chemistry. Organic Chemistry is taught by McCarty, while Physics is taught by French and Goodsell. Which course would you suggest to take during the summer, and which one would be better to take over the full year?
 
As someone with a bachelor's in music who has received a diploma from Harvard's HCP, I feel that I should clear a few things up. Definitely read through the website too!
http://www.extension.harvard.edu/hcp/default.jsp
http://www.extension.harvard.edu/2009-10/programs/hcp/sponsor/
http://www.extension.harvard.edu/2009-10/programs/hcp/diploma/

The program is an open-enrollment post-baccalaureate program. Anyone that applies and meets the two requirements will be accepted. If they feel you are not a good fit, they will send your check back; however this does not mean you are rejected. Simply state your case and they will let you in. Keep in mind that if they send back the check, it is probably for a valid reason. The program is not good for everyone. Some may need a grade-boosting program, which this is not.

As for the quality... I have heard from a few people that started their postbacs at other big postbac schools and then transferred that Harvard Extension is leaps and bounds better. The quality of instruction is great overall, though this shouldn't be confused with easy. It is Harvard. They are real Harvard professors and instructors. Personally, I like it so much here that I continue to take courses.

It's extremely cheap at roughly $1000 per 4-credit course. Most of the people I know had scholarships covering one course per semester. Plus, you can get a 1-bedroom apartment only a ten minute ride from campus (in Somerville/Cambridge) for under $1000/month. Studios and shares are even cheaper.

It prepares you well for the MCAT. But yes, you will most likely still have to study on your own just like everyone else. There is no magic formula. I got a 37R.

Recommendations are fairly easy to get. Make sure you attend sections with your TFs (most of which are extremely helpful and available for help) and you will be golden. Of course it doesn't hurt to show up for office hours.

You will have plenty of extra help. Almost every class has weekly sections with a TF, available office hours, and exam, or weekly reviews. For help with applying, Dr. Fixsen is very knowledgeable.

Nearly all the Harvard libraries/museums/computer labs are freely available for diploma students (as well as free printing for Extension School students). You can always find a quiet place to study.

I started in the summer before my first year, taking gen chem. Then during the year I took bio/phys/orgo. The next summer I took molecular biology and biochemistry. Summer classes are completely doable, but you have to be willing to put in a lot of time. If you can't put in the time, don't bother. However, in the summer, the class sizes are about 1/2 of the norm, so there is a good chance you will become friendly with your professor and the teaching staff.

As for work... if you have done well previously in classes, it's possible to apply for TF positions. And with Beantown being the health industry/biotech capital of the country, there are plenty of places to volunteer/intern. People also get jobs in related fields at places such as MIT or Harvard Medical while applying. Don't forget that there are always a bunch of lab research positions available if you will be around for at least a year.

To get around town, and to class, almost everyone takes the T. While a normal monthly pass (for train/bus) is $60, for almost all healthcare employees and volunteers it is only $30. Single T rides are $1.70 with a free CharlieCard. Needless to say, many people here don't own cars. Did I mention that Cambridge is the birthplace of Zipcars? They're everywhere, and Harvard students/alumni (including Extension) get half-off memberships.

And now I'm not sure what more I can write about so I will leave it at that. Good luck with your decisions!

Excellent post, hazmat2. I'm sure it will help a lot of people.
 
Hey everyone, so I am thinking of starting in the summer with either Physics or Organic Chemistry. Organic Chemistry is taught by McCarty, while Physics is taught by French and Goodsell. Which course would you suggest to take during the summer, and which one would be better to take over the full year?

Based on these choices, I would suggest Physics in the summer and Orgo during the year. Orgo is pretty dense and the additional time to absorb it is a plus. Logan McCarthy is awesome, btw.

P.S. Make sure your math skills are dusted off for physics. It will make your life easier.
 
Why is this program not considered a GPA-enhancer type program? From what I see, they offer many upper division biology courses. I have completed all pre-med req but no upper division science courses. Do I fit this program?
 
Hi! I was just accepted to the HCP and plan on attending this Summer. I will be moving there from Los Angeles so I would prefer to have a quiet and clean female roommate. I'm looking for a place either in Sommerville or Cambridge area and am willing to pay up to $1250/person. Please let me know if there is anyone interested!

I'm looking forward to meeting you all! 😀
 
Why is this program not considered a GPA-enhancer type program? From what I see, they offer many upper division biology courses. I have completed all pre-med req but no upper division science courses. Do I fit this program?

Hi alwayshop,

I think this program is usually not considered an academic enhancer program because only the people that are taking all of the core pre-med courses are eligible for the diploma option. However, HES does offer a lot of upper level science courses and sponsorship can still be obtained for those who want to enhancer their GPA. I will be starting this fall and I am using this program as an academic enhancer, along with a few other students so you won't be alone if you plan on doing HCP. I you have any questions, contact the HCP Office as Fixsen and Peterson are very helpful. Because you have taken no upper level sciences, I think you are a good fit for the program. Hope this helps
 
Hey everyone! I'll be starting Harvard this summer with G-Chem 1 and 2. Looking for some roommates that are also part of the HCP! I'll be looking into living somewhere around Cambridge or Sommerville area with a house of 4-5 of us, cheaper the rent the better haha! I'm from Orange County CA, PM if anyone has any questions!
 
I'm submitting my application for Fall 2010 this week. When can I expect to hear back from them?
 
Hey guys,

Thanks for all the posts. Although I am a bit confused about a few things if someone could help me out:

- The website says that you can't have taken ANY pre-med classes at another school. But people on here are saying anyone can still join the program? If you've taken all the pre-med classes and a few other upper level science classes, can you still get in this program?

I feel like taking all the classes again might be a good idea for those of us stuck with bad GPA's. If I can show my state school that I got good grades taking pre-med classes at a school like Harvard, I'm sure that will enhance my application quite a bit.

Also it's pretty cheap. Most post-bac type programs are kind of expensive.
 
Hey guys,

Thanks for all the posts. Although I am a bit confused about a few things if someone could help me out:

- The website says that you can't have taken ANY pre-med classes at another school. But people on here are saying anyone can still join the program? If you've taken all the pre-med classes and a few other upper level science classes, can you still get in this program?

I feel like taking all the classes again might be a good idea for those of us stuck with bad GPA's. If I can show my state school that I got good grades taking pre-med classes at a school like Harvard, I'm sure that will enhance my application quite a bit.

Also it's pretty cheap. Most post-bac type programs are kind of expensive.

Hi. Yes, you can still join the program even though you have taken all the premed classes and upper level science classes. I am in the same position as you but was admitted into the program. =]
 
Hey ton7995, they are pretty quick with decisions. Once they recieve your application, they reach a decision in about 2 or 3 days. They MAIL rejection/acceptance letters shortly after, so you should hear something in about a week after you mail it.

In terms of upper-level bio classes, the less you take, the more likely you are to get accepted. I finished all of my pre-meds and I also took 1 other upperlevel bio course and I was also admitted. If you have taken more than 6 or 7 upper level courses, I wouldn't recommend applying. Hope this helps.
 
On their website, it says that registration for the Fall starts in July.

Do HCP students get priority registration?

Do seats in courses such as OChem and Physics fill up quickly?
 
Hi! I've been lurking around these Harvard HCP forum threads for some time now and after a lot of contemplation, I've decided to apply. I'm currently finishing my last quarter as an undergrad. Do I have to wait to apply after I've attained my B.S. or can I apply now? Thanks!

I know some people that don't apply until they get halfway through the program. It really doesn't matter, except for scholarship money, which HES does give to many diploma candidates.
 
On their website, it says that registration for the Fall starts in July.

Do HCP students get priority registration?

Yes and no. HCP Diploma students get priority registration by I think five days. HCP non-diploma students are treated the same as any non-degree student, ergo no priority registration. http://www.extension.harvard.edu/2009-10/register/calendar/

Do seats in courses such as OChem and Physics fill up quickly?

No such thing. They are "no student limit" courses. The more specialized courses (such as writing classes which tend to have 15-18 student limits) fill up quickly.
 
Hey guys,

Thanks for all the posts. Although I am a bit confused about a few things if someone could help me out:

- The website says that you can't have taken ANY pre-med classes at another school. But people on here are saying anyone can still join the program? If you've taken all the pre-med classes and a few other upper level science classes, can you still get in this program?

I feel like taking all the classes again might be a good idea for those of us stuck with bad GPA's. If I can show my state school that I got good grades taking pre-med classes at a school like Harvard, I'm sure that will enhance my application quite a bit.

Also it's pretty cheap. Most post-bac type programs are kind of expensive.

You are not eligible as an HCP premed diploma candidate. You are, however, eligible for the HCP.
 
Hey everyone, so I am thinking of starting in the summer with either Physics or Organic Chemistry. Organic Chemistry is taught by McCarty, while Physics is taught by French and Goodsell. Which course would you suggest to take during the summer, and which one would be better to take over the full year?

The chemistry professor (Tucci) and organic chemistry professor (McCarty) are quite possibly the two best professors you'll ever have in your life.

With that said, organic chemistry has less of a workload in the summer (no more problem sets), but it's all crammed into six or seven weeks. Plus, with no problem sets, you get much less practice. Orgo is all about learning, understanding, and then memorizing a huge amount of reactions, and then being able to apply them all at once.

Personally, I would go with physics. However, I've never heard of the professor, and I don't know a single person that took it over the summer. Therefore, I can't comment on it.
 
Sorry for all the posts, but I prefer to reply to each post separately.

Anyone that is already at HES or is in the area: You can go to the Extension School main office and get the previous years' student evaluations for any professor (provided they have taught before). It's quite helpful in selecting courses!
 
Hey,
If you are a harvard extension alumnus, please let us know how the program worked out for you? Did you do well in all of your classes? Did you get into medical schools? If you did do well, how did you do it? Was your time substantially spent in the libraries and then class or did you have some time to have a little fun?

Any comments or information would be greatly appreciated.🙂
 
So, after thinking about it a bit more, I have decided to take either a biology course or physics over the summer. Has anyone taken Introductory Biology with Fixsen? If so, what did you think of the class.....I am a little scared of taking Physics over the summer because I struggle with math, so I was thinking of taking Bio over the summer and then Orgo and Physics during the school year. But obviously, if Fixsen's course is tougher than Physics then I think I should just take Physics.
 
So, after thinking about it a bit more, I have decided to take either a biology course or physics over the summer. Has anyone taken Introductory Biology with Fixsen? If so, what did you think of the class.....I am a little scared of taking Physics over the summer because I struggle with math, so I was thinking of taking Bio over the summer and then Orgo and Physics during the school year. But obviously, if Fixsen's course is tougher than Physics then I think I should just take Physics.

I would recommend Chem in the summer. Harvard Biology is heavy on Chem and the math involved will break you in far more gently than Physics. THough the Physics isn't calculus based, I think the algebraic and trigonometric math involved is always a little more advanced than what Chem involves.

Anything in the summer is going to rock your world, you just have to make sure you remain diligent.
 
I would recommend Chem in the summer. Harvard Biology is heavy on Chem and the math involved will break you in far more gently than Physics. THough the Physics isn't calculus based, I think the algebraic and trigonometric math involved is always a little more advanced than what Chem involves.

Anything in the summer is going to rock your world, you just have to make sure you remain diligent.

Do you mean General Chemistry? I am already taking my second semester of Gen Chem at a different university, so all that is left for me to take in terms of pre-reqs is Biology I with lab and Organic Chemistry and Physics (I have taken Bio II and am taking Anatomy and Physiology right now). Out of all of those three, they all seem hard (esp. over the summer), but Bio looks the most manageable given my background.
 
Do you mean General Chemistry? I am already taking my second semester of Gen Chem at a different university, so all that is left for me to take in terms of pre-reqs is Biology I with lab and Organic Chemistry and Physics (I have taken Bio II and am taking Anatomy and Physiology right now). Out of all of those three, they all seem hard (esp. over the summer), but Bio looks the most manageable given my background.

Ah gotcha! Then I would think Biology would be perfect, you then begin your "second" year of the standard program on time in the Fall with Physics and OChem.

Heard good things about Fixsen, just need to know a lot but you'll find this with any teacher.
 
Hey everyone! I'll be starting Harvard this summer with G-Chem 1 and 2. Looking for some roommates that are also part of the HCP! I'll be looking into living somewhere around Cambridge or Sommerville area with a house of 4-5 of us, cheaper the rent the better haha! I'm from Orange County CA, PM if anyone has any questions!


Just checking to see if anyone is looking for roomates for the summer! Please PM me if you're looking for housing or if you have a spot open, and we can go from there. If we can get at least 3-4 people still looking for summer housing, i can begin looking into a place to rent. Thanks and good luck!
 
Awesome thread you guys. We're gonna meet up and I'm buying.

Me too on Harvard, I think, unless UConn accepts me (not likely for out of state).

I found the summer Bio I/II option with Fixsen very attractive but you know what, discretion may be the better part of valor here and I may jump in a little slower in the fall. Plus, I really need to polish ze math skills so off to the local CC I go for Summer I, I think.

Thinking in terms of Chem & Bio in the fall.

May do an EMT-B also to help with the clinical/volunteer opps while in school, although I realize I would have to take the test for Mass also so I may not bother until I get there.

DecentDude, I'm watching for sure. Any responses on that? I'm a month from final decisions, (maybe less), then we'll talk.
 
pitufina88 - Are you, butters, and mbm, still looking for a roommate for fall? I'm definitely interested if the spot is still available. Messaged you all 🙂
 
Awesome thread you guys. We're gonna meet up and I'm buying.

Me too on Harvard, I think, unless UConn accepts me (not likely for out of state).

I found the summer Bio I/II option with Fixsen very attractive but you know what, discretion may be the better part of valor here and I may jump in a little slower in the fall. Plus, I really need to polish ze math skills so off to the local CC I go for Summer I, I think.

Thinking in terms of Chem & Bio in the fall.

May do an EMT-B also to help with the clinical/volunteer opps while in school, although I realize I would have to take the test for Mass also so I may not bother until I get there.

DecentDude, I'm watching for sure. Any responses on that? I'm a month from final decisions, (maybe less), then we'll talk.

Hey Southwind, we got 3 people for summer so far, and a 4th is welcome! =) I talked to fixen, and he advised against Bio I/II over the summer, as its pretty intense, he recommended Chem I/II instead, which is what I'm registered for. Bio and O-Chem is a LOT of memorization, and math in O-Chem. G-Chem is a bit on the lighter side, and apparently, fixens' bio exam questions are straight out of the MCAT, so just a heads up. Good luck on your decision!
 
Hey Southwind, we got 3 people for summer so far, and a 4th is welcome! =) I talked to fixen, and he advised against Bio I/II over the summer, as its pretty intense, he recommended Chem I/II instead, which is what I'm registered for. Bio and O-Chem is a LOT of memorization, and math in O-Chem. G-Chem is a bit on the lighter side, and apparently, fixens' bio exam questions are straight out of the MCAT, so just a heads up. Good luck on your decision!

Also, didnt hear any opinions on Physics over the summer.
 
Hey! I am planning to start in the summer and am looking for some roommates. looking forward to meeting everyone!!
 
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i know some people that don't apply until they get halfway through the program. It really doesn't matter, except for scholarship money, which hes does give to many diploma candidates.
 
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That's strange--it definitely is a "boost your cred. program". While maybe half of the students are taking all their pre-reqs for the first time, the others are like yourself and formerly myself (I just recently finished) taking upper level science courses to boost their GPA and prove their mettle. I'd apply, and add the usual paragaph in your PS/Why HCP essay to explain your low GPA.

Hope that helps....

Why is this program not considered a GPA-enhancer type program? From what I see, they offer many upper division biology courses. I have completed all pre-med req but no upper division science courses. Do I fit this program?
 
1. The diploma program and the HCP certificate program are different (aside from one giving you a nice document with a degree and the other a committee letter)

Actually from what I've heard, neither give a "nice document." Most people that I know, including myself, who have graduated from the diploma program only get the distinction of having it on applications, transcripts, etc. No hard copy.

As for summer classes... I only suggest taking Gen Chem. Bio and orgo are doable, but have an incredible amount of information to cover. The good thing is that orgo has much much less math (next to none actually) than gen chem. I can't speak for physics as I took 2 years of it in high school so the Extension school course was more of a review for me.
 
It seems like the general consensus is to not take anything other than Gen Chem during the summer if you want to do well....this is too bad, I was really thinking that I could transfer to HES during the summer to complete my post-bac in a year, since Gen Chem is the pre-req I have taken already. But I guess people warn against summer courses for a reason.
 
Hello-ello, one and all!

I am looking to attend in Fall of 2010. First, some background on me so that you may realize how peppered this program is:

-I'm a surfer, raised in Southern California
-I am coming from San Diego State University
-I graduated with a Film, Television, and Media Production degree
-I've researched with NIH projects, volunteered in the UCSD Medical Center's ER, and love every minute of high-adrenaline, take-no-prisoners medicine
-I'm a bartender to help pay the bills

You know, if we have confirmed students on here, we should plan an extravaganza of sorts! We're going to be a rather select group, right? And, a group that plays together STAYS together, you see 😉
 
It seems like the general consensus is to not take anything other than Gen Chem during the summer if you want to do well....this is too bad, I was really thinking that I could transfer to HES during the summer to complete my post-bac in a year, since Gen Chem is the pre-req I have taken already. But I guess people warn against summer courses for a reason.

While the general consensus is toward gen chem, the rest are possible.

Also, the credit requirements for the program are dependent on your background/gpa. You only need 32 credits if you had below a 2.8. I took orgo, physics, and bio all in two semesters.
 
Yeah, wow, lots to think about. A big THANKS to the experts who been there done that, (or are doin' it).👍

This one of the biggest decisions, by far, I've ever made. Ugh.
 
I’m registered for Gen. Ghem, and ready to roll; see you guys this summer!
Hey Decent dude, did you get my PM?
 
hey vicx11, i understand your concern. i heard that the classes are challenging, but are doable if you put in the work. i wouldnt let the harvard name intimidate you. if anything, it should motivate you. if you study hard and understand the concepts, getting As are def. possible! and if you do well in the program, medical school admissions committees really respect that.

the classes are in the evening and is for the post-bacc students and anyone else enrolled in the harvard extension school, so no freshman should be in the classes. i am not sure sure about curves. hope this helps!

hey mbm, sorry for the delay in response (haven't been here in a while), but thanks so much for your reply!

thing is, i want to finish my postbacc in an year, and i know that's especially challenging at harvard, with summer classes being mega costly and more challenging, as well.

it was mentioned in the acceptance letter that they wanted a photo and final transcript if i decide to go. now would anyone know how i can go about doing this? my letter is actually at home while i'm on campus, and the fam is out of the country, so i can't even call them to read my letter over the phone. should i call harvard and tell them that i wish to attend?
 
Sorry...I guess I don't understand the problem. Do you need the address?😕
 
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