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They make more than us doing the surgery.

What’s even crazier is that there are actual job postings all over the country offering those salaries. Apparently CRNAs haven’t discovered the “word of mouth” and “create your own job” approaches to finding employment yet.

 

[BeaverBlade]

Why would you even want to do consistent surgery if you’re private equity employed or private practice associate employed? Let’s say you’re making $150-200k. Is it worth the stress of surgery?

I mean I guess some of you love it way more than I do.

 

[heybrother]

Maybe I'm the only person getting BCBS ASC incentive pay (no ownership), but well done straight forward cases where you collect your deductible/co-insurance up front aren't unreasonable. On Monday I did a 10 minute case that was worth $850 and then immediately followed it with a fracture repair/graft that was worth about $1500-1600. I was done by like 11 and then went back to my office at 2:30 and saw 4 more people. Amazing? No. Earlier that week a guy paid for 4 flexor tenotomies up front. Much easier money than repairing a navicular.

In private practice - you can't sit their and bemoan how well paid the hospital RVU doctors are. All you can do is generate good encounters for yourself and do your best to collect as much of what you are owed up front. Is a Medicare bunion underpaid at like $500-600? Definitely. At the end of the year though if you don't do the case you'll have $500-600 less to work with. Maybe you could have filled your clinic with more office encounters instead or - maybe you would have had fewer clinic cases overall because people don't want to refer to a non-surgical doctor. Will I be following that navicular for awhile - probably. Its entirely possibly I will regret doing that case in the end. I was offered an opportunity to do a case. I will be paid for it. Perhaps there was a better use of my time available, but for now I used the lemons I was handed.

 

[Sybly]

Anything below 200K for non op podiatrist is egregious. MGMA data supports over 200K salary for non op DPMs. This is a terrible job offer. I suspect the salary is this low because the surgical podiatrists already there deem it be fair. It seems like job offers where there are other podiatrists already employed at the hospital are always worse than if the hospital hiring their first podiatrist. Disgusting.

It’s disgusting, but as podiatrist out many years- the older screw there fellow pods

 

[dtrack22]

Do other surgical specialties have non-operative job postings as much as podiatry does?

Yes. But they are almost entirely filled by PAs and NPs…

 

[Bluecollarmed]

Was talking about the CRNA expected growth during cases today with the guy beyond the drapes . We only employ CRNAs at our CAH. He mentioned there are tons of schools opening to cash in on the gold rush of all this high pay and anticipated demand. They'll end up saturated like every other profession that has good ROI.

 

[Feli]

Was talking about the CRNA expected growth during cases today with the guy beyond the drapes . We only employ CRNAs at our CAH. He mentioned there are tons of schools opening to cash in on the gold rush of all this high pay and anticipated demand. They'll end up saturated like every other profession that has good ROI.

Yes and no... they legitimately do have high demand.
CRNAs can find a job in any state, any place, their choice of PT/FT/call... all good/great pay. (RNs have mostly same job options unless they are truly bad, fail boards, etc). The anesthesia programs will also continue to get TOP nursing grads with very high admissions standards... less than 0.2% of nurses become anesthetist.

The CRNAs will water it down a bit if they increase programs, but they have room to do that. ER - and other speciaties - has been adding residency spots fast of late, and they are still in high demand and high paid. My facility is also mostly CRNA... and so was IHS (all CRNA). Even with MD anesthesia and Anesth Assts, the CRNAs still have not nearly met their facility/public demand (and many CRNAs also retire pretty young).

The CRNAs anywhere are generally trying to get their group to hire more and pay one another good sums to get out of call as they all already have plenty of money/hours... yet podiatry is gladly taking free call and trying to stop any other DPMs from coming to their area/facility. 🙂

Podiatry just has none of those things: high average income, many job options, great incoming students, general cooperation among its practitioners. CRNAs are in a much better spot... but that's not to say it won't still lose a little demand with rapid expand.

 

[Boba Foot]

Was talking about the CRNA expected growth during cases today with the guy beyond the drapes . We only employ CRNAs at our CAH. He mentioned there are tons of schools opening to cash in on the gold rush of all this high pay and anticipated demand. They'll end up saturated like every other profession that has good ROI.

This happens in every industry. Same thing is going to happen in the trades a few years down the line now that everyone is hyping them up and kids are skipping a college education to enter them. The part that sucks for them is they won't have a college education to fall back on; they're going to be stuck in an increasingly competitive field with blown out knees and a shot lumbar spine maxing out Google Ads budgets and having to match every other tradesmans' rate in a race to the bottom. Also private equity en****tification.