Official MCW Class of 2009 Thread

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Those are all bands my brothers like. I like some Rammstein as long as it's in German.

Rammstein in German is good stuff. Their English could use some work though...[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYwlRH7R6DE[/YOUTUBE]

If my heart could write songs...they would sound like these.
 
Dude, you could totally be talking about this, if you put "Alizee" and "French" in there.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M67PSt2Q_WQ[/YOUTUBE]

I like to boogie-woogie when I feel okey-dokey.

No, seriously though, that dance is still the hawtness. She would be a megasuper-AmericanIdol/DancingwiththeStars/CelebrityRehab-kindastar here in Amerika.
 
omg those are scary videos!!! 🙁i hate the one iwth the guy with the brain sticking out of his head and stuff 🙁 scary!!!! it looks like those old clay cartoons or whatever.

the last one is fun though!!! she's so pretty ashers!! :hardy:
 
My dad took me to a Beach Boys concert and a Five Iron Frenzy concert. My mom took me to see Paul McCartney.

We're not allowed to bring Korn into our house or my mom will trash the cds.
my mom freaked when my little brother was in my room listening to my Metallica S&M album. Of course, I wasn't around, and when I came home, she was pretty worked up.

That reminded me of the time I looked up the lyrics for Metallica's song Fuel and forgot to close the window. She saw them, printed them out, and confronted me with them. Oh no, the F-word!


My mom is waaaaay too conservative.
 
People should come visit me when I'm in London in March/April. While not on the Continent, you can speak English, and I can show people around like a Londoner (including giving directions to all the tourists that stop and ask me for directions).

My wife just left for Manchester today to visit a friend who has been living there for a year. They're going to spend a few days in London, then taking a train to Rome. 10 days of freedom for me!

I finally stopped procrastinating and scheduled Step 2 CS today. Whew! Not a ton of spots left. I picked Nov. 4th, because hopefully there won't be too much interviewing going on then, but I'll probably try to reschedule for sometime in October if I can figure out if they'll let me out of Master Clinician for a day.

Now to think about when to do CK...
 
I know. That's why I want to look like her.
Alizee was a huge Internet phenomenon with nerds for several years, like back in '04. Couldn't turn around without finding a new fan site for her. Didn't she get pregnant last year?
 
my mom freaked when my little brother was in my room listening to my Metallica S&M album. Of course, I wasn't around, and when I came home, she was pretty worked up.

That reminded me of the time I looked up the lyrics for Metallica's song Fuel and forgot to close the window. She saw them, printed them out, and confronted me with them. Oh no, the F-word!


My mom is waaaaay too conservative.

LOL, when I was in 6th grade, I got Green Day's Dookie for my first-ever CD purchase. The next day my mom listened to the whole CD while I was at school and sat me down and had a long talk about all the swearing and the drugs and masturbation references. Very uncomfortable. She never told me not to play the CD, although I definitely wasn't blasting it when she was home from then on.

Funny thing is, besides Offspring's Smash, which I bought the next year, I didn't buy any CDs with explicit lyrics for the rest of the time I lived at home (bought almost exclusively classic jazz albums in HS).
 
i think i saw you eatin lunch with Dr funk at school once with other people!

Oh, probably so then, esp. end of Feb when I was sleep deprived and on surgery. Wasn't with Gimlet or Marty.

My wife just left for Manchester today to visit a friend who has been living there for a year. They're going to spend a few days in London, then taking a train to Rome. 10 days of freedom for me!

I finally stopped procrastinating and scheduled Step 2 CS today. Whew! Not a ton of spots left. I picked Nov. 4th, because hopefully there won't be too much interviewing going on then, but I'll probably try to reschedule for sometime in October if I can figure out if they'll let me out of Master Clinician for a day.

Now to think about when to do CK...

Lucky her! I'll make sure to bring "Psych" tomorrow.

Your CS is the day before my birthday. We should all totally go celebrate my birthday if we're all on vacation. I need to pay for CK before even thinking about scheduling it.
 
My Mom was (and is) a dyed-in-the-wool feminist. My whole family is what we call "small appliance democrats", that is, if the democrats nominated a toaster for president, we'd still vote for it. There are levels, and I think one of them involves pets, but I can't remember them.

However, all that being said, she wouldn't let us watch MTV. Or the Simpsons, because they once had an episode that had some untruths about foster care.
 
We're still not allowed to bring any CDs with explicit lyrics into the house. When I was in Australia, I bought some Bosstones and Reel Big Fish CDs where the parental advisory label was a sticker on the outside, so my mom wouldn't know. When I was annoyed with my brothers, I could just go show my mom one of their cds, and she's get all mad at them. Hehehe.

My mom and dad took my youngest brother to a Jimmy Eat World concert when I lived in London, and they said "the s-word!" (oh nooohs!), so my mom said she didn't want us listening to them any more. My dad likes the Jimmies, so it didn't fly for long.
 
What I really need to do is get my FAFSA schtuff taken care of. How screwed do you guys think I am with the financial aid office? I'm scared to call them since I haven't turned in anything to them yet this year.
 
What I really need to do is get my FAFSA schtuff taken care of. How screwed do you guys think I am with the financial aid office? I'm scared to call them since I haven't turned in anything to them yet this year.

Have they started sending you hate mail yet saying you haven't turned in stuff?

Once again, I'm ineligible for institutional aid because my parents wouldn't fill out some of the stuff. They didn't believe me when I said I needed their info for FAFSA.
 
Have they started sending you hate mail yet saying you haven't turned in stuff?

Once again, I'm ineligible for institutional aid because my parents wouldn't fill out some of the stuff. They didn't believe me when I said I needed their info for FAFSA.

They only sent me the one letter before the deadline to say they hadn't received anything yet. I think they've given up on me.

I'm not expecting any institutional aid or anything need-based, anyway, so do you think I'll even have to fill out any of the school's forms? Would filling out a FAFSA be sufficient for me to get my loans to cover tuition?

You'd think I would have figured out this financial aid stuff by now, but I stand by the ostrich approach to finances by sticking my head in the sand whenever the subject comes up.
 
I'm still waiting to hear more about replacing my lender now that T.H.E. is deciding to be wimps about the economy.
 
They only sent me the one letter before the deadline to say they hadn't received anything yet. I think they've given up on me.

I'm not expecting any institutional aid or anything need-based, anyway, so do you think I'll even have to fill out any of the school's forms? Would filling out a FAFSA be sufficient for me to get my loans to cover tuition?

You'd think I would have figured out this financial aid stuff by now, but I stand by the ostrich approach to finances by sticking my head in the sand whenever the subject comes up.

I don't think you need the school's forms then, just Fafsa, which is probably why they stopped bugging you, unless you haven't filled out Fafsa, then I don't know why they're not bugging you.

I'm still waiting to hear more about replacing my lender now that T.H.E. is deciding to be wimps about the economy.

We're we supposed to hear a while ago? My lender was Student Loan Xpress. 😡
 
I don't think you need the school's forms then, just Fafsa, which is probably why they stopped bugging you, unless you haven't filled out Fafsa, then I don't know why they're not bugging you.



We're we supposed to hear a while ago? My lender was Student Loan Xpress. 😡

Haven't even filled out FAFSA yet. My taxes weren't finished until April 14th...wasn't even going to try to fill it out before that. I'll take care of it this weekend probably.
 
Holy crap there's a lot of action on this thread. That's what I get for getting off the couch.

Tool songs: Sober, Forty-six & 2, H, Aenima, Stinkfist, Schism, Lateralus, The Pot, Jambi, and many more. The lead singer is also the frontman for A Perfect Circle, which I like equally as much.

Am I the only one here who's parents didn't restrict what we listened to or watched on TV? It probably helps that my parents listened to 70s rock growing up. Although my mom doesn't really care to hear stuff like Ministry and the like.


And when will we get this comparison chart for lenders Linda eluding to? I have THE and very disappointed that they're leaving me.

Gimlet, when you say not much left for CS, how little are we talking? I'm trying to figure out how to pay my bills, let alone CS - maybe I should start begging to multiple relatives.
 
Gimlet, when you say not much left for CS, how little are we talking? I'm trying to figure out how to pay my bills, let alone CS - maybe I should start begging to multiple relatives.

There are still spots every Tuesday and Wednesday in October. Even more days in November. Weekend days are definitely out. September has nothing left. I didn't look at December. I honestly don't think you need to panic yet, though. I have a feeling a lot of people will be switching around dates/postponing, which could open things up. It sounds like there's some sort of preference system for switching into spots that open up, although I didn't read about it too much.
 
There are still spots every Tuesday and Wednesday in October. Even more days in November. Weekend days are definitely out. September has nothing left. I didn't look at December. I honestly don't think you need to panic yet, though. I have a feeling a lot of people will be switching around dates/postponing, which could open things up. It sounds like there's some sort of preference system for switching into spots that open up, although I didn't read about it too much.

awesome, thanks!
 
Or the Simpsons, because they once had an episode that had some untruths about foster care.
We couldn't watch it because they worried we'd take cues from Bart. And my parents thought Homer was a terrible father figure, and his bumbling represented the denigration of father figures in the US.
 
Once again, I'm ineligible for institutional aid because my parents wouldn't fill out some of the stuff. They didn't believe me when I said I needed their info for FAFSA.
Eh, I just ballparked my parents info, because their taxes won't be done until October probably. I did have their W-2s and my mom filled out the form for the financial aid office.
 
Am I the only one here who's parents didn't restrict what we listened to or watched on TV? It probably helps that my parents listened to 70s rock growing up. Although my mom doesn't really care to hear stuff like Ministry and the like.

Naw, my parents were crazy hippies who put no restrictions on the kind of media we listened to or watched. I think that style of parenting ended up working just fine for us.
 
I wasn't allowed to watch the Simpsons or Married with Children. My big rebellion in college was going up to Phoenix on a weeknight for a Reel Big Fish concert. I was semi-grounded when I came home at Christmas. Oh well... still an awesome concert.
 
My rules and restrictions from my mother lasted until I was 14 and my youngest sister (at the time) started requiring constant attention. Then I got to do whatever I pleased. Hence getting engaged at 17... I was precocious.
 
I wasn't allowed to watch the Simpsons or Married with Children. My big rebellion in college was going up to Phoenix on a weeknight for a Reel Big Fish concert. I was semi-grounded when I came home at Christmas. Oh well... still an awesome concert.

:laugh: I actually watched Married with Children with my parents. We loved that show.


Funk, I think we turned out okay too. Actually if my parents were strict, it probably would've all gone to hell.

Come to think of it, I've never been officially grounded.

I also recall me, my brothers, and my mom all arguing about who's the best band of all time: Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, or Led Zeppelin.
 
My rules and restrictions from my mother lasted until I was 14 and my youngest sister (at the time) started requiring constant attention. Then I got to do whatever I pleased. Hence getting engaged at 17... I was precocious.

and we wouldn't have you any other way.
 
Come to think of it, I've never been officially grounded.
Me either. I had some TV privileges suspended when I was really young (like 8 or 9), but nothing else that ever resembled being grounded. Of course, my parents were absurd with my curfews and who I was allowed to hang out with, so I might as well have been grounded until I was in college or so. I love pointing out to my mom that they made me come home at like 9 or 10pm when I was spending time with my wife. "Well, we didn't know that at the time...."
 
So this waitlist thing for rotations on Oasis is pretty sweet. I just got a phone call that general anesthesia opened up at Froedtert West. And Patty takes care of adding it to my schedule for me. I feel special. 😛
 
So this waitlist thing for rotations on Oasis is pretty sweet. I just got a phone call that general anesthesia opened up at Froedtert West. And Patty takes care of adding it to my schedule for me. I feel special. 😛

Nice! What month?

I wonder if it would be worthwhile to put myself on a waitlist for an anesthesia Sub-I, on the off chance that someone drops theirs?
 
We were told that the mcw step 1 average was 222. Isn't that high for an average? does that seem right?
 
We were told that the mcw step 1 average was 222. Isn't that high for an average? does that seem right?
Well, Stanford's average was like a 237...



any M3/M4s care to explain what you could do with a residency in anesthesia followed by a fellowship in critical care? what kind of patient population do you deal with?
 
Well, Stanford's average was like a 237...



any M3/M4s care to explain what you could do with a residency in anesthesia followed by a fellowship in critical care? what kind of patient population do you deal with?

I'm guessing you put critically ill people to sleep?
 
any M3/M4s care to explain what you could do with a residency in anesthesia followed by a fellowship in critical care? what kind of patient population do you deal with?

That's actually the exact pathway I'm considering right now. If I wind up liking the ICU in residency, I will definitely pursue it.

The role of the anesthesiologist is evolving from being just the doctor who puts you to sleep to becoming a true perioperative physician that is able to take care of all aspects of surgical patients before, during, and after surgery (besides doing the surgery, of course). I think that will manifest itself in that anesthesiology groups will be getting contracts to staff the ICUs in private hospitals, and will actually need to be able to provide those services to win the contracts.

I haven't asked around enough yet to get a great idea of how it would affect your practice after residency. I get the feeling a lot of CC trained anesthesiologists stay in academics. Ideally, for me, having that training would enable me to split my time in a private practice setting between the OR providing anesthesia and the ICU doing critical care (say, 1 week per month in the SICU, rest of time in the OR).

What I need to find out is if critical care training makes you more marketable to private practice groups. Doing critical care is certainly not as lucrative as the traditional role of the anesthesiologist. I've heard one resident say that it's "one more year of training to get paid less." With my desire to do a mix of the two, I just want to make sure it would be worthwhile to get that training, rather than finding out later that groups don't care about the CC stuff.

Not sure exactly what you are asking about the patient population. In an academic setting, CC-trained anesthesiologists mostly staff SICUs, leaving the MICU to Internal Medicine docs who have generally completed Pulmonary and CC fellowhsips. Outside of academics, though, I don't think there are many community hospitals that have separate surgical and medical ICUs, although they might separate out just based on who is treating you like the VA's ICU.

Hope that rambling helps. It's mostly based on wild speculation on my inexperienced part, so don't take it too seriously.
 
That's actually the exact pathway I'm considering right now. If I wind up liking the ICU in residency, I will definitely pursue it.

The role of the anesthesiologist is evolving from being just the doctor who puts you to sleep to becoming a true perioperative physician that is able to take care of all aspects of surgical patients before, during, and after surgery (besides doing the surgery, of course). I think that will manifest itself in that anesthesiology groups will be getting contracts to staff the ICUs in private hospitals, and will actually need to be able to provide those services to win the contracts.

I haven't asked around enough yet to get a great idea of how it would affect your practice after residency. I get the feeling a lot of CC trained anesthesiologists stay in academics. Ideally, for me, having that training would enable me to split my time in a private practice setting between the OR providing anesthesia and the ICU doing critical care (say, 1 week per month in the SICU, rest of time in the OR).

What I need to find out is if critical care training makes you more marketable to private practice groups. Doing critical care is certainly not as lucrative as the traditional role of the anesthesiologist. I've heard one resident say that it's "one more year of training to get paid less." With my desire to do a mix of the two, I just want to make sure it would be worthwhile to get that training, rather than finding out later that groups don't care about the CC stuff.

Not sure exactly what you are asking about the patient population. In an academic setting, CC-trained anesthesiologists mostly staff SICUs, leaving the MICU to Internal Medicine docs who have generally completed Pulmonary and CC fellowhsips. Outside of academics, though, I don't think there are many community hospitals that have separate surgical and medical ICUs, although they might separate out just based on who is treating you like the VA's ICU.

Hope that rambling helps. It's mostly based on wild speculation on my inexperienced part, so don't take it too seriously.
Yeah, I'd seen you mention it, and I wasn't sure what the purpose was - I'm just used to the idea of an intensivist. Thanks for the info.
 
Nice! What month?

I wonder if it would be worthwhile to put myself on a waitlist for an anesthesia Sub-I, on the off chance that someone drops theirs?

July!

I didn't put myself down for the sub-I since I still have ortho sub-I in June. But it can't hurt to mark yourself down, it can only help.

I only waitlisted myself in July cuz I have ICU at the VA in August and didn't wanna mess with that.

Is there much difference between Froedtert East and West? I had Patty take me off the waitlist for Froedtert East, but if that's better I could always add it back on.

Or would peds anesthesia be better? A pain fellow told me they let people rotate in July if you ask them nicely. 🙂
 
July!

I didn't put myself down for the sub-I since I still have ortho sub-I in June. But it can't hurt to mark yourself down, it can only help.

I only waitlisted myself in July cuz I have ICU at the VA in August and didn't wanna mess with that.

Is there much difference between Froedtert East and West? I had Patty take me off the waitlist for Froedtert East, but if that's better I could always add it back on.

Or would peds anesthesia be better? A pain fellow told me they let people rotate in July if you ask them nicely. 🙂


Surgeries are different in East vs West. West you'll see a lot more cardiac, thoracic, bowel/vasc/endocrine type general, gyn cases, so more a-lines, central lines etc. East, when I was there for CPR, I saw lots of ortho, some OMFS, and some GS2 stuff. East you'll also have a chance to see more nerve blocks. When I talked to Dr. H Liu about the East OR elective, he said he basically lets the student run the machine and do everything, and he doesn't make them take call because he thinks they should have fun.
 
Yeah, well I know the surgeries are different, but I wasn't sure if the electives are different for students from an anesthesia standpoint. i.e. with responsibilities, role, opportunity for letters, etc.

Dr. H Liu sounds pretty awesome.
 
Yeah, well I know the surgeries are different, but I wasn't sure if the electives are different for students from an anesthesia standpoint. i.e. with responsibilities, role, opportunity for letters, etc.

Dr. H Liu sounds pretty awesome.

Yep, all except the discordance between my comments and my anesthesia grade.

Connelly (or however you spell her name) is in charge of West elective... she's the one who started pimping me about drug mechanisms when she was taking me to the OR.

As for differences b/w E vs W... I was thinking more along the lines of what you're able to do. I saw an art line pack once when I was over in the East. Didn't get to practice any.

I'm hoping on the Pain Management IS, maybe I can try to do some nerve blocks.
 
Yep, all except the discordance between my comments and my anesthesia grade.

Connelly (or however you spell her name) is in charge of West elective... she's the one who started pimping me about drug mechanisms when she was taking me to the OR.

As for differences b/w E vs W... I was thinking more along the lines of what you're able to do. I saw an art line pack once when I was over in the East. Didn't get to practice any.

I'm hoping on the Pain Management IS, maybe I can try to do some nerve blocks.

Ooo, pain management IS is the one course on my lottery that I didn't get as my 1st choice.

That sucks about the comments vs grade discrepancy. That's 3rd year for ya.

And thanks for the tip on Connelly.

I was in a fair amount of heart and vascular cases at the VA, but my resident didn't let me try any art lines. Which sucks cuz I got to do on on Neuro ICU. But the intern barely got to do one, so oh well.

So, I got an email from Madison saying that they're not taking visiting student apps until May 10. I'm considering applying so I could delay my decision until I've rotated in ortho at least. The downsides: if I choose ortho, I've lost my research month by doing anesthesia in July (and with ortho in June, can't change my July rotation at that point). The downside if I choose anesthesia is that its poor form to sign up for an away and then drop it.

Ideally, I'll be firm in a decision this weekend. Man I'm wishy washy.
 
So, what do you all like about anesthesiology?
 
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