Official MCW Class of 2009 Thread

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Ashers said:
I'll have to trump the M3 tomorrow by going to sports clinic hehe.

OH! So today, he asked "So, are we done?" In a really loud voice at that! The residents made fun of him, then after a few min, we got to go. After we left, I had to tell him, "Just a hint, don't ask 'are we done?' ask something like 'Is there anything else I can help with?'"
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Back to this: I heard a rumor that this person did very well final eval-wise. ...whatever a rumor is worth.
 
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indo said:
Back to this: I heard a rumor that this person did very well final eval-wise. ...whatever a rumor is worth.
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How come I never know who these people are?
 
Ashers said:
Cool. I felt bad since it was his first hospital based, non-anesthesia rotation.

So are you ortho now or gas? ;)
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tomorrow is the last day of ortho. I feel like my sarcasm skills have been met and possibly exceeded on this rotation. good times.
 
Ashers said:
Rochester -- a cool program, and it's busier than Mayo or the Cleveland Clinic.
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Cool! My sister lives in Rochester and sees the GI specialists at the U's medical center for her IBD. She was disappointed I wasn't interviewing out there.
 
Gimlet said:
Cool! My sister lives in Rochester and sees the GI specialists at the U's medical center for her IBD. She was disappointed I wasn't interviewing out there.
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Why aren't you interviewing there?

We really should've synchronized our interviews more so we all have a chance at being at the same program.

It'd be great:

Splat: Ashers, I've got an open tib-fib!
Ashers: It can wait a few minutes, I'm eating for the first time in 2 days.
...
Ashers: Gimlet, is the OR ready yet?
Gimlet: Stupid ortho residents. Ashers turned into one of them.
...
akpete: Gimlet, time for your break, I'll take over for you.

Then we all start the "******University of Southern North Dakota Residency starting class of 2009!!eleven!!1!!!****" SDN thread.

Aight, so I'm bored and was glad someone finally posted on here.
 
Splat: Ashers, I've got an open tib-fib!
Ashers: It can wait a few minutes, I'm eating for the first time in 2 days.
Splat: No rush, I'm going home in a couple minutes anyway, my 8 hour shift is done and I have the next four days off.

That's more like it!
 
Agent Splat said:
Splat: Ashers, I've got an open tib-fib!
Ashers: It can wait a few minutes, I'm eating for the first time in 2 days.
Splat: No rush, I'm going home in a couple minutes anyway, my 8 hour shift is done and I have the next four days off.

That's more like it!
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ha!

But I'd be the cool one that gets to work with everyone. :D
 
Role Call!

Since this thread was almost off page 2.

Where's everyone going to be for February?

I'll be hating life while I'm on my medicine sub-I at the Dert. At least there's only 28 days in February.
 
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I'll be loving life in geriatrics at the VA
 
I'll be loving life with 35 hours a week of ambulatory medicine.
 
Ashers said:
Role Call!

Since this thread was almost off page 2.

Where's everyone going to be for February?

I'll be hating life while I'm on my medicine sub-I at the Dert. At least there's only 28 days in February.
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Which team are you on?
 
Ashers said:
Role Call!

Since this thread was almost off page 2.

Where's everyone going to be for February?

I'll be hating life while I'm on my medicine sub-I at the Dert. At least there's only 28 days in February.
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I'll be calling you to admit them from the ER.
 
Health policy integrated selective. I would give anything to just have another month at the ME's office. We're having more fun there than people really should.
 
TheProwler said:
that looks like a tough rotation
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ICU rotations are awesome. While I can't speak from a resident's point of view, my MICU month really taught me a ton and really got me on the ball for my EM month right after then. Definitely get a MICU or SICU month into your 4th year if you're doing something where you'll see critical patients. They're tough to be sure but excellent.
 
Women's Health integrated selective
 
Agent Splat said:
ICU rotations are awesome. While I can't speak from a resident's point of view, my MICU month really taught me a ton and really got me on the ball for my EM month right after then. Definitely get a MICU or SICU month into your 4th year if you're doing something where you'll see critical patients. They're tough to be sure but excellent.
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I was disappointed that I didn't get a SICU month in 4th year, but right now I'm definitely glad to not be staring down one coming up in the 2nd half of the year. It's bad enough to have my medicine sub-I in March. ICU in the beginning of the year would be ideal.
 
Gimlet said:
I was disappointed that I didn't get a SICU month in 4th year, but right now I'm definitely glad to not be staring down one coming up in the 2nd half of the year. It's bad enough to have my medicine sub-I in March. ICU in the beginning of the year would be ideal.
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I have my surgery sub-i in March, so I know how you feel. I've been pretty well cashed out since my medicine sub-i in October, so we'll see how hard it is to get back into gear. The health policy integrated selective next month is gonna be hard enough. I don't even *like* discussing that stuff. It always turns into group discussions with a few opinionated people dominating the conversation. Fun.
 
Agent Splat said:
I have my surgery sub-i in March, so I know how you feel. I've been pretty well cashed out since my medicine sub-i in October, so we'll see how hard it is to get back into gear. The health policy integrated selective next month is gonna be hard enough. I don't even *like* discussing that stuff. It always turns into group discussions with a few opinionated people dominating the conversation. Fun.
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I think you should just approach those discussions "SDN style" and accuse anyone you don't agree with of being "trolls." Then set up a bunch of straw man arguments and ad hominem attacks and have at it!

What service will you be on in March? That makes all the difference.
 
Gimlet said:
I think you should just approach those discussions "SDN style" and accuse anyone you don't agree with of being "trolls." Then set up a bunch of straw man arguments and ad hominem attacks and have at it!

What service will you be on in March? That makes all the difference.
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that would be awesome. make obvious :rolleyes: faces
 
I don't even remember Health Policy being an option. What to you have to do for it?

I've heard women's health is only half days most of the time, but after 3 months of vacation, I kinda just wanna go back to my high school ambition of being a drifter when I grow up.
 
akpete said:
I don't even remember Health Policy being an option. What to you have to do for it?

I've heard women's health is only half days most of the time, but after 3 months of vacation, I kinda just wanna go back to my high school ambition of being a drifter when I grow up.
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HAHAHA!

Can I go swim with Shamu all day now? Or a be a paleontologist? Either one.
 
Too bad my wife has already called dibs on staying home with the kids, because I would definitely take a position as a househusband if offered.
 
Any recommendations on how long to study for Step 2 CK? and when should I schedule CS?

I'm thinking of taking November, January and April off, with ambulatory in December. Some interviews in November, 1-2 maybe in December (we get 2-3 days off for interviewing, right?), and whatever else in January.

So take Step 2 CK and CS early in November?
 
TheProwler said:
Any recommendations on how long to study for Step 2 CK? and when should I schedule CS?

I'm thinking of taking November, January and April off, with ambulatory in December. Some interviews in November, 1-2 maybe in December (we get 2-3 days off for interviewing, right?), and whatever else in January.

So take Step 2 CK and CS early in November?
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It really depends on a few things. For EM...All of my interviews were Dec/Jan. If you are planning on staying in the midwest, it maybe easier to do a few more. I know people have had issues with taking time off to interview on ambulatory medicine. CS/CK in Nov is ok. I took it in early/mid Oct and having my scores early/mid Nov was awesome. I emailed programs my scores and said that I was really interested in their program. Just doing that got me 6 more interviews the next day!! If you can, take it earlier soo programs will still have spots available if you do well on step 2. CS sucked..I felt like I failed...got scores today and PASSED!!! During the 3 month waiting period, I was worried that if i didnt pass I would have to delay residency. NBME says you have to wait 60 days to retake...dates are really hard to get and it takes forever to get results. Most programs require you to have a passing result by the time you start. If you take it in Nov like i did ..you will get your scores end of Jan or early Feb. Odds are you will pass but it isnt worth the worry(for me) to have to delay/loose your residency position. NBME has a list of release dates for CS test dates. I would say vacation Oct, Dec, Jan. I back loaded my fourth year with my required rotation like Cadiology in March and med subI in April for a few reasons. Doing so gave me a lot of time to work on my ERAS application, personal statement and getting LOR in Aug/Sept. It will also hopefully keep my skills up for intern year where I may very likely be in an ICU month in July. I also dont have to worry about grades/evals and can just focus on learning what I want to.

I studied for CK for 2 weeks...6 hours a day and bumped up my score 20 points from step 1. USMLE world is awesome.

Also keep in mind that even the best laid out plans on when you are going to interview where will not work out. Dates usually fill fast(same day as invites go out) and many programs interview on the same day of the week so you will have to make multiple trips to the same city. If you interview at 13-15 places, and only plan on doing 4-5 in nov and dec and the rest in jan, that leaves up to 10 interviews in one month. That is gonna be hard to schedule and just plain tiring. Note many people have interviewed at more than 25 places( prelim/ty + advanced). Remember that each interview usually requires 2 days; day before to travel/ preinterview dinner and the day of the interview. Back to back interviews are miserable

just my opinion
 
nice post pratik.

i don't really have much to add. i will say that studying for ck during interviewing sucks. i pushed mine back, and then still didn't study that much. was supposed to take it right before thanksgiving, then cs right after thanksgiving. had 4 interviews in nov, but spent extra time in NYC and was at home for a few days, so yeah, didn't study and managed, just barely, to push back to right before xmas. still didn't study that much because i had 7 interviews. so keep that in mind when scheduling ck during interview season. i certainly wasn't going to schedule earlier though - riding my step 1 score to the bitter end. my CK score dropped 10 points from step 1. for amount of time - whatever time it would take you to get half of USMLE World done or so - best source. i only got about 5-10% done, so my score probably could've been a ton higher.

as for cs, if you can schedule for soon after the benchmark OSCE, that's always a nice way to go too. probably have to schedule soon though to get those dates. some people liked doing it that way because you've just done a similar exam and then it's done and outta the way. otherwise, whenever.

my schedule was very frontloaded, and i'm coasting from nov 1 to the may. yeah, july may be a wake-up call, but i don't have any motivation right now to get anything out of a bigtime rotation. luckily, my MICU rotation at the VA was pretty light, so able to take care of things like LORs. don't underestimate the time it takes to get all that underwraps. you often have to schedule meetings during the day when you have to skip out on your team.

for not having much to add, i certainly typed a lot.
 
Both of the above posts are money.

Prowler, the way you have it written is pretty much exactly what I did. I thought it worked well for me. I did 7 interviews in November (Thanksgiving eats up almost as big of a chunk of interviewing time as X-mas, btw), one in December (some programs schedule Saturday interviews, which was perfect for Ambulatory medicine), and 10 in January. I can't speak for whatever field you're going into (EM?), but there definitely were plenty of offers for November interviews in anesthesia.

One thing that was huge for me in making it to 10 interviews in January was that I was able to group everything regionally. Everywhere I flew I had three interviews scheduled for that area. It seemed impossible at the outset, but I just set aside certain weeks for certain regions and everything managed to work itself out. I can expand on that some other time.

It was key for me to have a light rotation in October (master clinician) so I could spend time studying for CK. I studied intermittently the whole month (not more than 3-4 hrs/day, usually much less) and did 1 point better than my Step 1 score. I also had rotations in Aug. and Sept. that were very amenable to working on my ERAS and having meetings for LORs and whatnot.

I agree that it would've been nice to schedule CS early in 4th year to get it out of the way. Got my "Pass" today, though!
 
hiphop anonymous?
 
pratik7 said:
Also keep in mind that even the best laid out plans on when you are going to interview where will not work out. Dates usually fill fast(same day as invites go out) and many programs interview on the same day of the week so you will have to make multiple trips to the same city. If you interview at 13-15 places, and only plan on doing 4-5 in nov and dec and the rest in jan, that leaves up to 10 interviews in one month. That is gonna be hard to schedule and just plain tiring. Note many people have interviewed at more than 25 places( prelim/ty + advanced). Remember that each interview usually requires 2 days; day before to travel/ preinterview dinner and the day of the interview. Back to back interviews are miserable

just my opinion
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Yeah, I'm kind of choosing between gen surg and EM right now, neither of which has a prelim/TY. I have a passing interest in anesthesia, but otherwise, I don't think I'm interested in anything else with a prelim year. I think I'll be a reasonably competitive applicant for some specialties that aren't terribly competitive, and I plan to apply mostly in the Midwest.

I think I'll do CK early in November so I can leave the rest open for interviews or relaxing (if I don't get any interviews...)


Thanks for the help, guys.
 
TheProwler said:
I think I'll do CK early in November so I can leave the rest open for interviews or relaxing (if I don't get any interviews...)


Thanks for the help, guys.
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Good call on making it an either/or option...I definitely didn't find any of my interview trips to be "relaxing." Even once they were old hat, they still felt far from what I would call a vacation.
 
Gimlet said:
Good call on making it an either/or option...I definitely didn't find any of my interview trips to be "relaxing." Even once they were old hat, they still felt far from what I would call a vacation.
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Oh, this trip has been relaxing :rolleyes:... out in CA, studying for CK which was today (did about 40% of USMLE world in 5 days). Next I'm gonna go snowboarding with akpete THEN I have to interview. yay.

Studying during interviews doesn't really work. I got some question sets done, but not many.
 
so you had your family med osce? My immediate feedback from the fakers was drastically different than the final grade I got for the osce. oh well.

What do you have next?
 
indo said:
so you had your family med osce? My immediate feedback from the fakers was drastically different than the final grade I got for the osce. oh well.
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might as well get used to that.
 
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