Official MCW Class of 2009 Thread

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1) How is the preparation for the USMLE?
-----you're largely on your own, but we do well overall. some classes are pretty good at writing "boards style" questions and such though.


2) How much time are you in class/lab/discussion per day?
3-4 hours in the morning, variable lab/small group time in the afternoons, especially first half of M1. Second half is mostly in the morning. M2 year is largely just morning with lab/group/etc in the afternoons usually 2-3 times a week tops, depending.

3) Are the instructors good?
Anatomy, Biochem, Physiology, Pharm: All Very Good
Neuro...some good, horrible organization
Pathology...not so good. but, there was an unexpected change of leadership early in the year, so there was turmoil that sorta messed things up. but i'm largely not in favor of our path department. Some lecturers have been great, but on the average the class kinda needs work.

4) Do you use books or do the professors give you a packet?
both, but books are almost always optional/supplemental study material. Almost every single lecture will have provided notes, which is awesome.

5) Are you able to do rotations across the U.S. during 4th year?
Yes. And outside of the U.S.


EDIT: keep in mind madison will send you all over the state for your rotations. they sell it like it's a good thing. sounds like a pain in the posterior to me. also, i dunno if their anatomy labs are on campus yet. things like housing and transportation will be a lot easier here than they will in madison. i'm not trying to diss them, it's an awesome school, but those are some things also to keep in mind.
 
Hello, right now I am debating between MCW and Madison. There is a significant cost difference (Madison will cost around 70,000 more total). I really liked Madison and did not feel like I really found out about MCW when I interviewed. I was just wondering a couple things:

1) How is the preparation for the USMLE?
2) How much time are you in class/lab/discussion per day?
3) Are the instructors good?
4) Do you use books or do the professors give you a packet?
5) Are you able to do rotations across the U.S. during 4th year?

any other comments would help me greatly. Thanks a bunch!

A lot of this has been discussed around one or the other of the MCW forums (maybe 2011) too.

But:
1) I felt pretty well prepared for step 1. Our pass rate is about average, and we usually score around the national mean.
2) Depends on how much you choose to actually go to class. All lectures are on mp3, and powerpoints are online. I'll defer this answer to the 2009 and 2010 crew. There is room to tailor your learning to what suits you best.
3) First two years, most lectures were okay. Some good, and some bad. As far as clinical years, I think the faculty is really quite good.
4) You get a packet of class notes, but are also often advised that the book is "fair game".
5) Yes. You can have up to four months of away electives. But the graduation requirements have to be fulfilled here.
 
well, UWisc would have been $40,000 less for me, but I still picked MCW, if that's any indication 😉
 
So I was messing around on QBank today and came across the following in the "Explanation to Released Items" pdf (bold emphasis mine):

These are the explanations to the test items found in the Step 1 CD-ROM, which accompanies the USMLE's 2006 General Instructions, Content Description, and Sample Booklet. The questions cannot be reproduced as they are copyrighted by the USMLE. You will receive a copy of the CD containing these items directly from the USMLE after you register for the exam.

The .pdf goes on to list answers for 150 questions released by the NBME.
Did anyone actually get this CD-ROM? I haven't heard anything about this, and want to make sure I'm not missing out on something.
 
I didn't get a cd, but I think they've been going away from the cd to just downloading something. I downloaded something from the usmle website the other day, but haven't actually looked at it yet. But I think that it's the same thing. But I don't know for sure. And it was free.
 
This music video has Buster Bluth in it!

That's awesome...but kind of sad that such a great comedic actor has been reduced to doing music videos.

Recognize this guy?

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBdLJ7Pox9Y[/YOUTUBE]

And the reference in AD? (2nd half of the video...)

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNv6-HlMVuw[/YOUTUBE]
 
To those of you that did not attend Saturday Clinic yesterday (Funk) You missed out. We had an awesome time.
 
There are pictures to prove it, too.

I would also add that the two doctors there are probably now questioning our sanity/professionalism.

Though Dr. N. did seem pretty interested in the "urine sample."
 
I would also add that the two doctors there are probably now questioning our sanity/professionalism.

Though Dr. N. did seem pretty interested in the "urine sample."

That was in very questionable taste. Hilarious, but 😱 It's a good thing you don't get graded on SFC, especially since Dr. Bedinghaus is one of the Clinical Continuum "professionalism" obsessed maniacs.
 
I heard that a certain doctor said that ovarian cysts don't bleed.

a certain medical student is exagerrating her words. she said they generally aren't horribly severe bleeds.
 
That was in very questionable taste. Hilarious, but 😱 It's a good thing you don't get graded on SFC, especially since Dr. Bedinghaus is one of the Clinical Continuum "professionalism" obsessed maniacs.

i tend to disagree, Gimlet. it was NOT in questionable taste. It was very obviously cranberry-pomegranate juice and it tasted great.
 
Yeah yeah yeah, I skipped out so I could visit my friends from undergrad/high school one last time before third year began. I tried to find a replacement but no one would help me out. I guess I hate helping patients, kick small puppies, and am a horrible human being in general. 😉
 
Yeah yeah yeah, I skipped out so I could visit my friends from undergrad/high school one last time before third year began. I tried to find a replacement but no one would help me out. I guess I hate helping patients, kick small puppies, and am a horrible human being in general. 😉

don't forget forging scrips and insurance fraud.
 
well, most of the stuff on the neuro punch list has been punched. I hope I didn't miss any big things, but all the specific conditions in Krippendorf's lectures are kind of annoying (Wallenberg, Benedikt's, Parinaud's, etc).
 
well, most of the stuff on the neuro punch list has been punched. I hope I didn't miss any big things, but all the specific conditions in Krippendorf's lectures are kind of annoying (Wallenberg, Benedikt's, Parinaud's, etc).

ugg. I don't think this is going to go well.
 
You guys lost me a while back.

I heard only one M2 showed up to Saturday clinic last week (not this past sat, the one before). I'm so glad I decided not to partake in clinic this year.
 
There was an email sent out a couple days ago about people not showing up to saturday clinic. I had the foresight to know that I would not be available at 4am on saturdays so I didn't sign up. I hate neuro right now.
 
ah, only in med school would I feel guilty for getting ready to go home after five and a half hours of studying the day before an exam. Because the 17 hours here yesterday wasn't quite enough.
 
17 hours? you lightweight.
 
i fail to see what's so "super cool" about this particular biopsy....

breast09.jpg
 
There are sperm in there!
 
haha, well done.
 
The question about the Brainstorm software has me questioning the validity of our Neuro course.
 
jeeze, 21 kids dead at virginia tech
 
i'm hearing 31 now.
I guess that puts our exam weeks in perspective. 🙁 I certainly don't expect any heroes, but you'd think a bystander could take down a lone gunman prior to his shooting probably 40+ people. Too bad somebody else wasn't packing heat.
 
I guess that puts our exam weeks in perspective. 🙁 I certainly don't expect any heroes, but you'd think a bystander could take down a lone gunman prior to his shooting probably 40+ people. Too bad somebody else wasn't packing heat.

i am amazed one person could cause so much carnage before getting taken down.
 
Yeah, 40+ wounded and dead is crazy. I'm often surprised that most shooting sprees don't kill a few more people than they do, but I'm amazed that one guy could do this much damage. Even if he had multiple guns, he would have had to have reloaded several times to inflict this much damage. You'd think that someone would have been able to intervene by then. This guy must have been one systematic killer to have killed 33 people. Most of the time it's mostly injuries and a few deaths. It'll be interesting to hear why he (I'm 90% sure it's going to be a white male) did this.
 
Yeah, 40+ wounded and dead is crazy. I'm often surprised that most shooting sprees don't kill a few more people than they do, but I'm amazed that one guy could do this much damage. Even if he had multiple guns, he would have had to have reloaded several times to inflict this much damage. You'd think that someone would have been able to intervene by then. This guy must have been one systematic killer to have killed 33 people. Most of the time it's mostly injuries and a few deaths. It'll be interesting to hear why he (I'm 90% sure it's going to be a white male) did this.

apparently he had two separate shootings on campus, one earlier in the morning but they didn't do any kind of "lock down" (how could they with a campus of 10,000 students) but he came back to this engineering building and went crazy. There are reports of doors chained shut and such, which apparently wasn't anywhere in any kind of school policy, so I wonder if he did that to keep people from getting out.
 
apparently he had two separate shootings on campus, one earlier in the morning but they didn't do any kind of "lock down" (how could they with a campus of 10,000 students) but he came back to this engineering building and went crazy. There are reports of doors chained shut and such, which apparently wasn't anywhere in any kind of school policy, so I wonder if he did that to keep people from getting out.

Wasn't that in the movie "Higher Learning". If I remember correctly, the gunman in that movie chained the exit doors like that to keep people inside.

By the way, there would be no policy of chaining exit doors, as it would no doubt violate the fire code.
 
Don... I'm at the VA for CT surgery and then Columbia for gen, and Patrick tells me you might have some insight... hit me.
 
Don... I'm at the VA for CT surgery and then Columbia for gen, and Patrick tells me you might have some insight... hit me.


Columbia is the gem of the surgery clerkship. The staff in the OR is super nice, and the attendings are pretty benign. Hours are really pretty decent. Dr. Siverhus is pretty nice. Dr. Henry usually pimps about surgical history (which you aren't expected to really know), and Kappes will pimp about the case you are currently in, usually just basic stuff. Kappes, Mays and Henry let you do the most (especially Kappes). Cattey and Regan don't let you do anything, really. You should be fine with surgical recall for pimp questions. I usually kept it in the physicians lounge and reviewed it just before going in to the OR, but I'm a gunner. Dr. Regan cut me with a senn retractor, though. Watch out for him.

CT at the VA is more work. Almassi is who you'll be working with mostly. He will pimp you on anything, at any time. Usually while taking down the LIMA or when closing. He especially likes questions about cardiac physiology, or anatomy. Plus, you'll have to know the anatomy of the coronary arteries, and how to identify them on a cath image. Not too hard once you've done it a few times. Also, if you know the classifications of angina and CHF, you'll look like a star.
If you get a chance, go to the OR with Tisol or Gasparri for thoracic cases. They are great, and always keep you involved. Lily and Nicolosi are only there once in a while for heart cases, but are nice enough.
 
I just feel the need to clarify in case anyone actually cares... I'm at Columbia first, then the VA. Rah.

I'm feeling hopeful about the two months. Lisa is hooking me up with Surgical Recall and Lawrence, and Patrick has the underground objective answer things. Any other books I should scam off someone?
 
I just feel the need to clarify in case anyone actually cares... I'm at Columbia first, then the VA. Rah.

I'm feeling hopeful about the two months. Lisa is hooking me up with Surgical Recall and Lawrence, and Patrick has the underground objective answer things. Any other books I should scam off someone?

That's the way I did it. It's fine, really.
As far as studying, the underground study guide is essentially all you need for the exam. In fact, I would focus on the general surgery section, as ~80% of the test is GS, with a bit of specialty surgery (for plastics, know your flaps). There are a few weak areas that I supplemented with Lawrence. Lecture notes have a few points here and there, but aren't crucial. Recall is good for rapid review/basic knowledge.
 
Okay, Creepy Pre-med Guy doesn't bother me, but Even Older EMT Student Guy is really driving me nuts. He sounds like he's trying to snort a line of sand or something, and then hacking it back up. I know you guys think that CPG gives us disdainful looks for talking, but EOESG is even worse.
 
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